Santorum thought he had a pretty darn good point by saying that we need a GOP nominee that presents a clear contrast to President Obama. You could see it in the smugness on his face. But the way he said it was simply gaffetastic.
Santorum started off with a strong and proper message: “You win by giving people a choice,” he said. “You win by giving people the opportunity to see a different vision for our country, not someone who’s just going to be a little different than the person in there.”
This is right, I think. As conservatives, we need to offer the American people a clear contrast to Obama. Every time we’ve offered voters a moderate Republican we’ve lost the White House. In fact, the only clear conservative we offered to the people that lost was Barry Goldwater and he lost because conservatism was so new at the time that Americans hadn’t any real idea what Goldwater was offering them. They didn’t finally have their head-slapping moment until 1980 when Reagan appeared before them. It took from 1964 until 1980 to both convince the establishment that a conservative could win and teach the electorate about just what conservatism meant. And we were only really successful with the latter.
In any case, what Santorum said next ruined his point entirely and amounts to what I feel is a gaffe (and note, I just voted for Rick in my state’s primary election).
If you’re going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk with what may be the Etch A Sketch candidate of the future.
Good golly, Rick. Did you really mean to say that Obama would be better than Mitt Romney??
That is the most absurd thing I’ve heard you say, Mr. Santorum, and you’ve had a few doosies this election cycle.
One has to wonder why we should offer a Republican at all, in Rick’s view, if Obama is doing a good enough job!?
This is a disastrous concept to get conservatives and Republican voters to start pondering, Mr. Santorum. This is a recipe for an Obama second term. If you start your supporters imagining that Mitt is worse than Obama then we will chase voters away from the general if you don’t take the nomination, Rick.
I understand your point, Senator. I understand that you mean to say that you are the choice, you are the clear contrast to Obama. I also understand and agree with you that Mitt Romney is not anywhere near as conservative as you are, Rick. But to say we may as well keep Obama rather than have a President Romney is simply as stupid as the day is long.
Yes, I agree that Mitt has often been Obama lite in years past. But even with that being the case, Mitt Romney has not shown the same zeal for the destruction of these United States that Obama has reveled in. Mitt Romney would not illegally use his regulatory powers to destroy business, energy, and property rights as Obama is now perpetrating. Mitt would not want to confiscate the wealth of Americans as Obama wants to do. Mitt would not gobble up corporation after corporation into government owned entities as Obama is doing. Mitt would not appoint a thousand new “czars” every time he wants to get around Congress as Obama does. Mitt would not be as zealous in enlarging his executive powers by fiat as Obama is doing daily.
Yes, Mitt Romney has a tendency toward big governmentism. Sure he was a tax and spender, an abortion supporter, an anti-Reaganite and an anti-Second Amendment guy and sure Obama is also all these things, as well. But there is one thing Mitt is not and that is a zealot on these issues. Mitt has never shown any tendency toward being a crusader for any of these anti-American and un-conservative ideas. He may more or less believe in them but he’s never wanted to push them with every ounce of his dark soul as Obama does.
Perhaps a President Mitt would still set his feet on a center-left path were he to become president. But he’d be walking. Not riding a jet cycle and driving toward these ideas at the speed of light as Obama is doing.
Barring Rick Santorum getting this nomination, it is most assuredly better that Mitt Romney get it and win the general election than we have another four years of Obama, Mr. Santorum. This country can stand a president shuffling toward Gomorrah as Mitt might do. But we cannot take another four years of Barack “rocketman” Obama driving us to ruin at hyper speed.
So, no, Rick. It isn’t better that we keep what we have rather than have Mitt Romney win the nomination.
To steal a line from Commie-Obamie, Rick, you were acting stupidly.









March 23rd, 2012 at 4:27 am
Personally, I’m not surprised by Santorum’s remarks. He’s actually said things along these lines even before the whole Etch-A-Sketch thing started.
I might add that the concept is nothing new. Nothing to be shocked about. Others have said the same, including myself. If the goal here is the long term survival of America, restoring the Constitution and ending a century of Progressive-Socialism, then it may indeed be better to put up with 4 more years of Obama, especially if we win back the Senate.
Here are two simple reasons why. First, I think it is fair to say that the last thing we want is another ‘big-government’ RINO in the White House. They tend to make matters worse than even big-government Democrats. Nixon implementing wage and price controls. GHW Bush raising taxes and expanding bureaucracy. GW Bush and the Patriot Act, the Donut Hole, TARP, etc.
Secondly, there is a certain logic to keeping Obama’s hand on the wheel as the nation heads for disaster so he gets the blame. Frankly, Mitt Romney is not going to do anything to prevent the crash of the US Dollar. It is inevitable. In the long run, it might be better to let Obama take the full blame so we have a full generation of voters who reject any future Progressives from achieving power.
March 23rd, 2012 at 4:33 am
If we do not win back the Senate, then it really does not matter whether you have Obama or Romney in the White House. Nothing will get done anyway.
Oh, and there is also a third reason to keep Obama around. If we do get the Senate, then the next time Obama tries to pull some goofy executive order or administrative regulation circumventing the Constitution, we can impeach his butt. Obama leaving office ruined and in disgrace would also be a worthwhile objective to consider.
March 23rd, 2012 at 7:22 am
Couldn’t disagree more, Andy. If the Prez didn’t matter like you say, then why bother working to elect anyone to the office? The fact is that another 4 years of Obama WILL get things doen… the further destruction of the USA will pick up at super speed because he’ll know he has only 4 more years.
Worse, he’ll turn the SCOTUS into an arm of OWS by appointing more extremists like the unqualified Sotomayer.
This man has to be stopped.
March 23rd, 2012 at 7:23 am
First, I think it is fair to say that the last thing we want is another ‘big-government’ RINO in the White House. They tend to make matters worse than even big-government Democrats. Nixon implementing wage and price controls. GHW Bush raising taxes and expanding bureaucracy. GW Bush and the Patriot Act, the Donut Hole, TARP, etc.
Wait… so.. Nixon, GHW Bush, GW Bush… that’s almost all the conservatives. Which GOP presidents HAVEN’T been Republican In Name Only then?
Is that why the GOP administrations have been a disaster for America? Because they just weren’t conservative enough?
Oh, and there is also a third reason to keep Obama aroun… Obama leaving office ruined and in disgrace would also be a worthwhile objective to consider.
Wow. Okay. Great. Andy Z endorses Obama. Let’s get him another term and we’ll see if he’s impeached and leaves in disgrace…
Again, I want to re-emphasize my GOP ticket endorsement of Rick “The Frothmaker” Santorum. Vote with your heart, republicans. Do what you know is right. Give the conservative candidate a real shot for the first time since Goldwater. Vote Santorum in your state primary.
March 23rd, 2012 at 10:03 am
Hey ‘Me’,
You know I did offer a bargain with buzzbee that if he helps get Mitt Romney elected, I would promise to beat up on Romney as much as I do Obama. Since I do not see much difference between them, its a win-win for me either way. Then I could produce goofy pictures of dogs tied to the roof of Air Force One or ‘The Beast’.
;D
March 23rd, 2012 at 10:08 am
Warner, if we have the Senate, then Obama won’t be able to do very much anyway. Even his SCOTUS appointments will have to be ’slightly’ rational.
To ‘Me’, I forgot my REAL GOP administrations list:
Reagan, Eisenhower, Coolidge, Harding, as far as the 20th Century goes…
March 23rd, 2012 at 10:10 am
I disagree about his SCOTUS appointments even if the GOP does take the Senate. After all, our guys are NOT known for opposing a president’s appointees very much. No, better to be rid of Obama entirely than give our mushy Senators the opportunity to rubber stamp Obama’s radical SCOTUS appointees.
March 23rd, 2012 at 10:25 am
Well, you see, THERE is the problem! “OUR GUYS” cave in all too often. They think they’ll be loved by the press or be popular. This is why we need ideologically pure candidates for every seat in the House and Senate, as well as for 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. If we cannot trust those we elect, then its better to vote the more incompetent candidates as they will do the least harm.
March 23rd, 2012 at 10:46 am
I cannot believe the nonsense I’m hearing. Obama would be better than Romney?
Of course having the Senate would be good, but having the Senate and Obama out of the White House would be better.
“they tend to make matters worse than even big-government Democrats. Nixon implementing wage and price controls. GHW Bush raising taxes and expanding bureaucracy. GW Bush and the Patriot Act, the Donut Hole, TARP, etc.”
I wasn’t pleased with some of the stuff GW Bush did, I feel he abandoned fiscal conservatism, but we certainly wouldn’t have been better off with Gore.
March 23rd, 2012 at 10:59 am
Anyway, Santorum is already backtracking and saying that that’s not what he meant. Of course he’d take any GOPer over Obama.
March 23rd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
I don’t think this analysis holds. Bush I was clearly a moderate who won, so was Nixon. Bush II was pilloried by the right for moving to the center. Ideologues usually lose elections. On the positions, hard to differentiate Romney from Reagan.
March 23rd, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Patrick, your reading is hindsight, not contemporary. In 2000 the candidates were Alan Keys (yes the most conservative, but rightly viewed was a fringe character), John McCain (hated by conservatives because he hated them), and GWBush (ran as a conservative and did not run to the middle that much in the general despite the complaints that he did). The conservative choice was Bush in that primary. (you can’t count 2004 because he was then the incumbent)
As to Nixon, there was no “conservative” movement yet in 1968. It was just being born and wouldn’t come into it’s own until 1980, so I don’t count that either.
But Dold, McCain, HWBush, they were all either outright moderates (Dold and HW) or campaigned as one from the beginning (McLame) and they all lost.
Reagan and W Bush ran as conservatives and won over very liberal candidates. Dold, McLame, and HW Bush ran as moderates and lost to very liberal candidates.
March 23rd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
“Wait… so.. Nixon, GHW Bush, GW Bush… that’s almost all the conservatives. Which GOP presidents HAVEN’T been Republican In Name Only then?
Is that why the GOP administrations have been a disaster for America? Because they just weren’t conservative enough?”
You’re like a little girl, ya know that ?
This sht with buying votes has to stop regardless of party.
Party titles carry about as much worth as a pile of sht.
Have you considered that maybe, just maybe its progressive ill informed left nuts like you that are the flesh eating virus within our government for decades now ?
“Wow. Okay. Great. Andy Z endorses Obama. Let’s get him another term and we’ll see if he’s impeached and leaves in disgrace…”
No, it just seems that a global collapse is the only thing that’ll wake your asses up.
Wouldnt that be a “Shared Sacrifice ” as dickhead says ?
This place is like a treatment center that gives you a job at a bar or liquor store as your tool for re-entering society after your clinical release.
March 23rd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
OH, by the way..
Santorum !
Smooth move exlax.
Clueless twat
March 24th, 2012 at 4:12 am
GW Bush wasn’t really criticized by Conservatives until after he was elected and begun collaborating with the likes of Ted Kennedy and such. Even then, he generally got a pass until after 2006 when he was not exercising his veto power very much to stop Reid and Pelosi.
March 24th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
First, I think it is fair to say that the last thing we want is another ‘big-government’ RINO in the White House. They tend to make matters worse than even big-government Democrats. Nixon implementing wage and price controls. GHW Bush raising taxes and expanding bureaucracy. GW Bush and the Patriot Act, the Donut Hole, TARP, etc.
then you say…
To ‘Me’, I forgot my REAL GOP administrations list:
Reagan, Eisenhower, Coolidge, Harding, as far as the 20th Century goes…
Umm, there is NO bigger big-government president than Ronald Reagan. None in our history. If only you allowed links to graphs, I would prove that in a half second, though you must know this. In terms of the cost of government, the size of government, number of employees, any metric you can think of, the size of government exploded, I mean MASSIVELY exponentially under Reagan.
Same with taxes. There is no way you can call Reagan a small-government Republican. No freakin’ way. If you’re going to condemn the others for “raising taxes and expanding bureaucracy”, that’s Reagan’s legacy. That’s the one thing Reagan will be remembered for more by historians than anything else- massive debt and massive spending. And tax raising. And Iran-Contra I guess too, where he negotiated with terrorists in Iran and illegally escalated wars.
I dare you to allow links to graphs/charts– I will demonstrate Reagan’s impact on big government very clearly. It’s not up for debate.
March 24th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
That was the Cold War.We needed techs behind keyboards intel and not boots on the ground.
Compared to Reagan’s size of government Barrys is the frickin Hindenberg.
Moon colonies are making more and more sense everyday now
March 24th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Warner, not to argue over trifles, but…
GHWB won (before he lost of course). The moderate who had to put family values guy Quail on the ticket beat Dukakis.
There WAS a modern conservative movement in 1968. It was born in 1964. Ronald Reagan himself had the second most delegates in 1968, losing to Nixon the big government moderate at a brokered convention. Nixon beat Humphrey.
Bush II ran as a “compassionate conservative” whatever the f*** that meant (we found out by 2004 it meant big government guy but we reelected him anyway).
So your analysis doesn’t really hold IMHO.
Certainly an advantage to grab the middle in the general election, that’s why they all try to do it. The hardest thing is getting a person who can appeal to the middle out of the primaries, and we have a chance this time.
March 24th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Yes, but HW won on the tail of Reagan who was so incredibly popular that it would have been quite a feat for his VP to lose next time out! I think it is mitigating.
And, again W Bush ran as a conservative and was never really discounted on his conservatism until 2004.
Remember, we aren’t measuring conservatism by the far right’s standard, but by the general electorate’s standards which is not as hard-core conservative as the hard-core conservatives would like.
March 24th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
I agree with all that, except that Romney IS a conservative by the general electorate’s standards. We forget he was the conservative by GOP standards in 2008! Endorsed by CPAC and National Review. For repeal of Roe v Wade, for parental consent laws, wants to defund planned parenthood, and is against embryonic stem cell research. He is pro-business and anti-tax, except he wants a hardline on Chinese imports, and he has promised to use executive orders his first day in office to kill Obamacare. On and on, blah blah. yeah he changed his positions on some of these (just like Reagan) but these are his positions and he can’t get reelected if he doesn’t produce on them.
March 24th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
I didn’t consider Romney a conservative in 2007 any more than I do now. He has a center left record. He is pro-abortion, anti-second amend., pro big government, anti-Ronald Reagan. THAT is his actual record. I don’t believe a WORD of what he says to the opposite now in a cynical attempt to get elected because he has 40 years of history as a center left guy.
March 24th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
I do.
He switched some things, just like Reagan. Reagan was a Democrat from a liberal state. Reagan’s actual record on abortion in California and supreme court picks (and spending) as president was pretty bad. Reagan is anti-Reagan because we make stuff up about him to meet our fancies.
March 24th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
You simply cannot compare Reagan’s abortion history to Mitts. There is NO similarity whatsoever. None. In fact, I wrote about that not long ago to warn Mittheads that they are wrong to pretend the Mitt’s record on abortion is just like Reagan’s. I titled it, “Dear Romneyites, Reagan Was NOT an Abortion Supporter!”
http://www.publiusforum.com/2012/02/01/dear-romneyites-reagan-was-not-an-abortion-supporter/
March 24th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
I did not say Romney’s record on abortion was “just like” Reagan. I did say Reagan’s record on abortion in California was poor, which it was, because he signed a bill he should not have signed and came to regret it very much. He says he was fooled into signing it. That’s his problem, his record. The buck stops there.
But this isn’t about Reagan, it’s about 2012. Romney’s positions are the conservative ones we seek. Right on life issues.
March 24th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
Would you guys just agree to support the Frothy one Santorum and be done with it? I mean, he’s the true conservative here. I mean, what kind of conservative passes Obamacare and then says how awesome it was to work with Teddy Kennedy.
Please, PLEASE vote for Santorum in your primaries.
thanks.