Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), who happens to be running for the 2012 GOP presidential nomination, has come up with the simplest solution to the debt ceiling issue. If for no other reason, this will stir up the Ron Paul for President 2012 crowd. The U.S. Congress should instruct the Federal Reserve to eliminate the $1.6 Trillion dollars of U.S. Treasuries they have purchased to fund the National Debt. If Fed chairman Ben Bernanke just tore the bonds up, that would essentially roll the debt limit back $1.6 Trillion from the current debt ceiling of $14.29 Trillion, which has already been surpassed, to about $12.7 Trillion dollars. This would give the federal government plenty of wiggle room to continue working on a genuine long-term solution. Perhaps as much as two years.
Now, on the face of it, this may sound like another typically screwball idea from Ron Paul. But then one must consider the whole purpose behind the Fed′s program of quantitative easing. They essentially printed money and lent it to major banks to buy the U.S. Treasuries. Not only does this help fund the federal government′s budget deficits, but also adds to the banks′ balance sheets for reserves. However, there is no mistaking that it is the Federal Reserve itself that really owns the bonds. Which they would sell anyway at some point. The Fed already refunds the U.S. Treasury the interest it earns on its assets. Last year, that amounted to about $80 Billion dollars which was refunded.
One can also argue that in a sense, we owe this money to ourselves, anyway. At least the $1.6 Trillion worth of quantitative easing. That money was created for one purpose and one purpose only, so digitally destroying it will not effect any other aspect of the economy. The only reason the Federal Reserve started doing this in the first place was because those who usually buy U.S. Treasuries, such as China, Japan, and other central banks and large private financial institutions, ceased buying them at their normal quantities. The alternative would have been an increase in interest rates to make the bonds more attractive to such investors at the Fed′s auctions.
So will the political class in Washington go along with this debt ceiling solution by Rep. Ron Paul? Most likely they will not. First, it might make the 2012 GOP presidential candidate even more popular than he is now. But the real reason is that it would open the blinds and shed light on the folly of our fiat currency system. Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, Barack Obama and a host of other players have all built up an alarmist condition on the debt limit issue. That if it is not increased, we would face a financial Armageddon. That defaulting on the National Debt would plunge the world into chaos. But the truth is that the Fed could easily destroy the $1.6 Trillion dollars worth of U.S. Treasuries it is sitting on and nothing would happen, nobody would lose anything. So what do you think? Would this idea make Ron Paul for president in 2012 a more viable campaign?










July 3rd, 2011 at 5:49 am
Yes, it’s a great idea.
No, it doesn’t make the crazy uncle more electable.
July 3rd, 2011 at 7:11 am
Your suggesting not paying our debts? And you want to lead the country? That is what hucksters with no sense of honor do to others. We owe the people who bought our bonds their money and the interest as agreed upon in the structuring of the bond if we are a nation of honor. People who talk funny about the money are misguided on so many levels.
July 3rd, 2011 at 9:03 am
At the beginning of the Bush presidency, the United States debt limit was $5.95 trillion. Despite promises that he would pay off the debt in 10 years, Bush increased the debt to $9.815 trillion by the end of his term, with plenty of help from the four Republicans currently holding Congressional leadership positions:
Speaker John Boehner, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, and Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl.
June 2002: Congress approves a $450 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $6.4 trillion. McConnell, Boehner, and Cantor vote “yea”, Kyl votes “nay.”
May 2003: Congress approves a $900 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $7.384 trillion. All four approve.
November 2004: Congress approves an $800 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $8.1 trillion. All four approve.
July 3rd, 2011 at 9:27 am
Buzz
I dont think anyone will dispute the spending of the past.
But in the current climate it affords much more urgency than ever.
The last three years our debt has tripled in less than 1/3 the length of Bushs term, which also had a debt he inherited. The whole 9 trillion was not his alone.
In 8 years at this pace Barry will of spent 3 times more than Bush.
When he leaves office, at the current rate the debt will be more than 30 trillion.
Considering what little the dollar will be worth ast gdp downtrend were looking at an unsustainable economy.
The point of no return/recovery.
We’ve simply gotten to the point where no matter what conditions the ceiling was raised under before, those conditions are not available now.
I an economic climate close to that of the 30s we cannot raise the ceiling.
Theres nothing in the forecast these days that shows we can pay it back.
Not until the private sector starts cranking again
July 3rd, 2011 at 11:03 am
now Mr. Paul and Mr. Frank are cosponsonering a bill to get the feds partly out of the marijane game and leave it soley up to the states to self-regulate small amounts regarding individual and medical use. Well its got to go before Lamar Smith’s house judiciary committee and hes from Texas and in the house of reps. He’s already said, in so many words, its lost in the circular file and going to go nowhere. It will never make it to a fair an honest vote as it isn’t getting out of committee this decade. So here we have a lone Texas congressmen making national policy for all of us by fiat. That doesn’t sound like a democracy to me. Peoples lives are being ruined while he sits on his hands as the moral authority on this one. Is it really his business to override the states of Washington, Oregon, California, Colorado, New Mexico, Massachussetts, etc law by fiat? And if the feds have such a disgust with pain pills for sick people, if properly used as intended, why would they not be happy there is a home rememedy that some would chose in the first place? There is a great tradition in the US for various home remedies and natural concoctions that is culturally coherent with many. We need solutions, not more criminalization. In life you all are going to need some kind of pain, discomfort, etc pallative some day, and as they restrict the use of even the current pills as most doctors dread prescribing them now because of possible federal legal consquences to their career and even license, what are we going to do? Just submit and endure pain and discomfort when we know there are solutions? We have the technology right now to deal with this, but we are being forced to criminalize all of it for no good purpose. It would be easy to set some weights and standards for medical marijuana regarding strength and effectiveness despite the current propaganda that says this is why we can’t do it this time. Look how wine is regulated and inventoried. This is an overreach of vested interests within the federal government and its police apparatus and equipment vendors, many of whom make their living off the war against maryjane, and the US citizens who have gotten caught using it. If you really want to undercut the mexican cartels you must eliminate the illegal market they Dominate, and we could do that with a stroke of a pen. Thre are several issues in play all of which could be rectified by a decrimininalization and sane regulatory scheme.
July 3rd, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Buzzbee,
You are conveniently leaving out the three other debt limit increases during the Bush years, all done within less than two years by the Democrat-controlled House and Senate.
September 29, 2007 = $850 Billion to $9.815 Trillion.
June 5, 2008 = $800 Billion to $10.615 Trillion.
And of course, the TARP bailout, October 3, 2008 = $700 Billion to $11.315 Trillion. BTW, most of the TARP money dispersed during GWBush has been paid back. However, Obama has yet to comply with the provision of the TARP act to use the money paid back to pay down the debt.
The three increases under Obama all occurred while the Democrats controlled the House and Senate:
February 17, 2009… +$789 Billion to $12.14 Trillion (the Stimulus Bill).
December 24, 2009… +$290 Billion to $12.394 Trillion.
February 12, 2010… +$1.9 Trillion dollars raising the debt ceiling to its current limit of $14.294 Trillion dollars. Essentially to pay the increase in discretionary spending which Obama and the Democrats raised some 24% the year before.
So in 360 days, Barack Obama and the Democrats raised the National Debt $2.979 Trillion dollars! Now explain that one!
July 3rd, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Brian,
Actually, some analysts who have been looking at the Treasury’s recent monthly statements believe we have already begun to default and not pay.
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=189249
The Chinese said as much weeks ago. S&P issued another warning this week.
The point Ron Paul is making here is that the debt is we owe to ourselves. Don’t you feel forgiving?
Personally, while I like its brashness, I think its a bad idea in the sense that it gives the federal government more room to borrow and spend even more. I would only go along with this scheme if you reduced the debt limit in the process.
July 3rd, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Andy, yes I think we should all pay more taxes to close specifically the budget gap, while we work at approximately the same time a plan to reduce the size of government and the duplicative agencieys in the least disruptive way. Everything else is just tweeking the problem. I think what is really happening here, is our economic system, just like the soviets two decades ago, has hit the wall. The question now is whether we have the flexibility and creativity to make a big mid course adjustment and reset. I don’t see that happening yet. A good indicator would have been ceo pay would have fallen dramatically and I mean dramatically. There simply isn’t the money to pay them but they are using the status quo, the law, and whatever to maintain their grip and which means their failing leadership style is till in play. I don’t think spending more will solve the problems, nor do I think installing an even bigger social government interference in our daily lives will help either. We have hit a wall, yet the players who pushed us here are still very much in charge. In fact, obama has barely tipped the apple cart and they want him out. He has hardly done anything different. A few minor tweeks and a few more wars. Thats it. So the problem goes beyond who is president or who is governor. Getting your republican tea party hybrid guy in isn’t going to solve anything other than continue the same set of problems, especially when china and malaysia, and latin america can manufacture all the goodies we want to buy at a tenth to a quarter of the wages. Paying the viacom ceo 84 million dollars for all the wonderfull media content and programming we get is nearly a complete waste of money. For him to even take the dough is an act of betrayal of the American Ideal of being a responsible citizen. So hes getting paid roughtly 175 times the president of the united states plus extra perks. Thats the indicator we are still in deep trouble as a nation. we are becoming third worlded right here at home.
July 3rd, 2011 at 3:06 pm
You don’t think Obama’s perks far outweigh those of the Viacom CEO???
July 3rd, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Well nothing matches airforce one in viacom (as far as we know). But I am sure mr. viacom gets whatever he wants with a single phone call 99 percent of the time and its pronto.
July 3rd, 2011 at 4:13 pm
“But I am sure mr. viacom gets whatever he wants with a single phone call 99 percent of the time and its pronto.”
I’ll bet he cant invade Libya with a phone call and stick me with the bill..
…and then 1/2 hour later play golf
July 3rd, 2011 at 4:15 pm
I cant read # 8.
It gives me a headache just to look at it as a whole
phew
July 3rd, 2011 at 5:30 pm
Keep insulting people to get your no point across. Mr. Ron Paul steady moves forward, oblivious to your uncited drivel that falls from your mouth like $hit from a$$.
Mr. Paul has a strong ground game, early successful fund raisers, high profile legislative endorsements, GOP fellow candidates who literally are echoing Mr. Ron Paul’s stead fast platform, supporters not only from 1 “party” but supporters who are democratic, libertarian, republican, and all others. Most importantly, all those people who feel kind of “snowed over” by all the failed campaign promises of Mr. Obama, realize now that ideology and rhetoric never supersedes substance and track record. Walk the walk and talk the talk. Mr. Ron Paul does just that.
July 4th, 2011 at 7:59 am
I wouldn’t vote for him. But I like Ron Paul. He’s kind of like, well, my favorite Martian.
July 4th, 2011 at 9:11 am
George
Thats all fine and dandy but Ron Paul will get us all killed.
Hes great on the economy and limited government, but hasn’t a clue on foreign policy.
All the wealth in the world aint worth squat, or as you say “like sh!t from a$$ “if I’m hiding under a burka or dead.
Then there’s the whole race problem that seemed to get brushed under the rug.
Hes a joke with a temperament that reminds me of a constipated Barney Fife
Get a new handle before you accuse others of insulting people.
You’re no George Washington