In another strike against freedom, democracy, and American traditions a Texas court has decided that a Texas High School cannot have a prayer during its upcoming graduation ceremonies. Not only that, but according to this judge speakers are even barred from saying the words “join in prayer,” “bow their heads,” “amen,” and “prayer.” So now, according to these anti-democratic courts, mere words are illegal!
Naturally this decision was once again a result of a lawsuit filed by some radical, anti-American atheists. These prevaricators claimed that hearing a prayer would cause them “irreparable harm.” What tosh.
This whole claim that hearing a prayer or seeing religious paraphernalia will cause “harm” to atheists is such idiocy. Just think of it. They claim not to believe in the “myths” of religion. God doesn’t exist. It’s all fakery, they say. So, when they see a cross representing something they say doesn’t exist… they are harmed? How can you be harmed by something that doesn’t exist? Atheists sure get all exercised over things that don’t exist, don’t they? It just goes to show that their beliefs are just as filled with religious fervor and zealotry as the religionists they hate.
Anyway, back to this idiotic lawsuit…
The Texas Attny Gen is alarmed at this blatant example of judicial activism by Chief U.S. District Judge Fred Biery who handed down this ruling.
“Part of this goes to the very heart of the unraveling of moral values in this country,” Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott told Fox News Radio, saying the judge wanted to turn school administrators into “speech police.”
“I’ve never seen such a restriction on speech issued by a court or the government,” Abbott told Fox News Radio. “It seems like a trampling of the First Amendment rather than protecting the First Amendment.”
I disagree, Mr. Attny Gen. It doesn’t just seem like a trampling of the First Amendment. It is an outright oppression of it!
Fortunately, a second set of judges reversed this idiot’s speech ban.
Once again this whole mess is a result of a flawed interpretation of the First Amendment’s religion clause. It does not say that government shall disallow any and all allusions to religion. All it says is that government will not host a nationalized, officially approved religion. In fact, the amendment rather assures that people have a right to express their religion. What part of, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…” don’t you understand?
It is a wrong-headed idea that schools must ban all expressions of religion just because schools are funded by government.
Further it is a violation of the freedom of the 99.9% of the other students at this graduation because a tyranny of the minority (in this case, two radically atheist kids) has said that they have no right to freedom of religious expression!
It is good that the second panel of judges shut down this idiot, Biery. But that he made the decision in the first place is an example of how far our so-called judiciary has fallen. It’s long past time to start tossing these un-American judges off the bench.









June 6th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Why should prayer be a component of a school graduation?
They have a place for prayer, in effect, a “religious school” that is open all day Sunday. In fact, the Catholic church has added a Saturday show to increase attendance.
They don’t teach math at church and there should not be any prayer at school.
If someone wants to say a quiet prayer to themselves, so be it, but there is no reason for a mass prayer.
June 6th, 2011 at 9:50 am
“Why should prayer be a component of a school graduation?” And, why shouldn’t it? Who are YOU to say it shouldn’t be allowed? Just another anti-American wishing to impose his will on the 99% of people that have no problem with a prayer at a graduation?
June 6th, 2011 at 10:23 am
WT, what if they wished to pray to Allah instead of your God? I suppose that would be fine too?
June 6th, 2011 at 10:36 am
I wouldn’t like it, no. I’d also petition my school to stop such a thing if I were a student there. However, there would be no role whatever for a court to step in to stop or push a Muslim prayer at a graduation.
The difference is that the community, the school should decide with input from the parents and school board. I support that style of decision making.
On the other hand, I do NOT support any court forcing the issue. A federal court has no legal role to say if a school should be “allowed” to have ANY sort of prayer or religious sentiment at a graduation.
So, if a majority of a school is Muslim and they wanted to pray to their false God… well, then they should have that right.
June 6th, 2011 at 10:41 am
So, if a majority of a school is Muslim and they wanted to pray to their false God… well, then they should have that right.
I appreciate the consistency if not the sentiment.
Personally, I think that unless it’s a religious school they should just leave religion out of their graduation. I guess that’s just too simple.
June 6th, 2011 at 10:48 am
“I appreciate the consistency if not the sentiment.”
LOL
Well, for sure it would be easier if schools avoided the religious content. However, when looking at the well over 200 year history of the USA, prayers and religious content has been not just common but ubiquitous. It has only been the last 20 years or so that people started getting squeamish about religion and THAT is because of the illicit actions of activist courts dragging people in with lawsuits.
the fact is, using history as a guide, NOT having prayer is un-American!
June 6th, 2011 at 11:02 am
I believe there was a case in Alabama regarding a nursing home which was federally funded (duh) and someone reported the elderly were (GASP) saying a prayer before they ate their meals.
I could be wrong but I think the court ruled NO PRAYERS over “federally funded food”
I guess that makes it the FFF Club
Must be a b!tch to walk into courtrooms for all these “federally” paid moonbats…They have to stare at the word GOD engraved.
June 6th, 2011 at 11:06 am
“Personally, I think that unless it’s a religious school they should just leave religion out of their graduation. I guess that’s just too simple.”
Who gives a sht when half the history they teach is crap liberal indoctrination anyway ?
And yes, there is proof there’s a God.
Dr. Jack Kevorkian died all on his own
June 6th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Hey stupid ****… that atheist wasn’t trying to get rid of the prayer for fear of the harm that would done to them, but for KNOWLEDGE OF THE FACT that it harms this country. You morons and your imaginary friends have cause more harm to this country and has set ALL of mankind back so far that you all should executed for it. Oh and for the simple fact that its UNCONSTITUTIONAL you UNAMERICAN fool.
June 6th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
You know why prayer shouldn’t be allowed in school??? Because it’s against the law.. It’s in our constitution. Anti- American??? Only those choosing to break the laws of America are anti-American.. Even that stupid book of yours says you must obey the LAWS OF THE LAND!!!! TAX THE CHURCH!!!!
June 6th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Don’t pray in my schools and I won’t think in your churches.
June 6th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Warner Todd Huston, freedom of religion also includes freedom FROM religion. And SCS specifically cites that ANYTHING government-funded is not allowed to promote ANYTHING religious. AT ALL. THAT INCLUDES PRAYER. It’s not anti-American, it’s actually VERY American to protest these anti-Constitutional practices. It’s anti-American to be bitching and whining about “OH NOEZ THE EVUL AETHISTS TUK AR PRAEYR NOW WE GONNA CRY BOUT IT WAAAAAAAAAH” when what has happened was these people were defending the Constitution against religious indoctrination. This is not a Christian nation. We are not formed on Christian values but secular and humanist values. If you wanna pray, do it at home, like Jesus told you to do. FOLLOW YOUR ******* BIBLE FOR ONCE RATHER THAN DOING WHAT YOUR PREACHER TOLD YOU TO DO.
Faye, such a case never existed. Stop trumping up BS.
Micky, Jack Kevorkian’s death is not proof of God’s existence. Everything dies eventually.
June 6th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Our forefathers were NOT Christians, they were deists. So if you wanna talk history, there you go.
June 6th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
“Don’t pray in my schools and I won’t think in your churches.”
Well, Josh, being a liberal, you don’t have to promise not to think. It is axiomatic. I’ll wait while you go look up “axiomatic.”
June 6th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
How about we allow the Satanists to say a prayer as well, hell let the hippies say a prayer to their hippie god and the Pastafarians say a prayer to their pasta god too. Ra’men!
June 6th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Josh,
“Our forefathers were NOT Christians, they were deists. So if you wanna talk history, there you go.”
That is an outright, historically illiterate lie. Go read a book or two, punk.
June 6th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
if you want prayer at school or at school functions, send your child to a private christian school. Not believing in a god does not make one anti American, one has nothing to do with the other. This is just another whining christian who is throwing a temper tantrum because they can not ram their christian “pinky and the brain” agenda by ramming it down everyone’s throats and taking over the world. Go whine about how your all martyrs and no one will let you worship, praise and pray. We atheist have been tolerating your crap long enough! My tax dollars pay for those gov ran schools too!
June 6th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
I think we should allow prayer. A christian prayer, Jewish prayer, a hindu prayer, muslim prayer and any off the wall wiccan prayer, a buddhist chant…let them all pray! All or nothing. And how about a Pentecostal prayer, Baptist prayer, catholic prayer, JW prayer, Mormon prayer and any other cult that is left. Every one pray! then you can spend the last 3 minutes congratulating the graduating class who probably really do not care if someone prays or not! They just want to get the hell out of there so they can party and swig a few beers! Fact is, when you do not give Christians what they want (the freedom to cram their religious beliefs down your throat) then they become as hostile and aggressive as the Taliban! It is amazing to see how vulgar and nasty one of them becomes after you tell them there is no proof of a god, therefore you do not believe as they do. Just graduate the kids and move on. If your god is really awesomely powerful, he can bless them without a prayer, correct? or is this another power play on the part of the christian cults?
June 6th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Here;s is another illiterate:
Sam:
“You know why prayer shouldn’t be allowed in school??? Because it’s against the law.. It’s in our constitution.”
Uh, no, Sammy, it isn’t.
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Just Jack:
“if you want prayer at school or at school functions, send your child to a private christian school.”
Ooooor, you could just send YOUR kid to a private atheist school and leave the rest of us alone. How’s that?
June 6th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Christianity (all religion really) and liberty are diametrically opposed, your faith and your god are anti-freedom, anti-liberty, and anti-human. Religion is fascism!!!
June 6th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
I think Warner Todd Huston proves my point with his rude, nasty comments to others here. WOW! not very Christ like are you?
June 6th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Sorry, Andrew, but again, your position is not an American position. The founders felt that the Christian religion must inform civic virtue and without it we could not have a proper representative republic.
Oh, and, Anna…. I am not an observant Christian, so your point is made up of an uninformed taunt.
The FACTS are inarguable.
The Constitution DOES NOT prohibit prayer in schools.
The Founders were NOT “Deists.”
There is no Constitutional “separation of church and state.”
There is NO legal reason to stop prayers in school (Muslim, Jewish or Christian).
June 6th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
IF there were actually atheist schools, I would send my kids to one. every denomination has their own schools, so you are free to go elsewhere. maybe we atheist SHOULD start our own atheist schools. I am sure our children would outrank in academia. Let’s face it, the public schools in the U.S. are at an all time failure rate compared to other countries. Atheist schools could only improve the situation.
June 6th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Ana, and I have no problem with you raising the money for an atheist school and sending your kids to one. That sort of entrepreneurialism is very American. Go for it. I would remind you that atheism has killed more humans than any other ideology, though. The USSR, Hitler, Pol Pot, the Chinese, etc., THESE atheists are responsible for more deaths than all religions combined. How does it feel to be a member of such a murderous lot?
June 6th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
“WOW! not very Christ like are you?”
Since he never existed why the concern ?
“then they become as hostile and aggressive as the Taliban! It is amazing to see how vulgar and nasty one of them becomes after you tell them there is no proof of a god, therefore you do not believe as they do. ”
Awwwww, STFU !
Are you really comparing 99% of todays Christians to the 50% of Muslims on this planet that either approve of suicide bombing or have favorable views of UBL and Sharia ?
Whens the last time a Christian got his head whacked off for converting to Islam ?