Since the middle of the last decade, about half of the American voters would like there to be a third party to contest the dominance of the Republican and Democratic parties. However, in a poll released by Gallup on Monday, an interesting change in attitudes has occurred.
The polling data examines people’s opinions on this matter by party identification and by ideology. Typically, this poll finds that independents strongly favor a third party, while a majority of both Democrats and Republicans are opposed. In this most recent survey, though, a majority of Republicans (52%) now also support a new party to challenge the hegemony. Given the recent victories by Republicans in Congress and in the states, why would this occur?
What leads to this is that 60% of Tea Party supporters favor a new choice. Presumably, they are upset that the change that they voted for a little more than 6 months ago has not yet resulted in any empirical change that they hoped for or that they are not pleased with the changes that have occurred thus far. Since these members of the party were by far the most energized in the last election, this could actually lead to a reduction in Republican voter turnout in next year’s election.
Meanwhile, in the last year, the percentage of Independents and Democrats in support of a third party has decreased substantially. Generally, the political party in control of the presidency is much less supportive of a third party than is the other. It’s hard to figure out why the percentage of Independents has decreased unless they suddenly find themselves aligned more with the Democrats.
Every year, I always find this poll very enjoyable. But what it actually measures is which people are the most upset with the political system, and feel that the system doesn’t represent their own attitudes. But we will never have a third party, along with the other Democrats and the Republicans. This is primarily because of the Electoral College system of winner-take-all within individual states. Also, in modern times, federal funding is virtually guaranteed to the two major parties, while any third party would have to meet some kind of proof of popularity level before they could similarly get government subsidies. Finally, the media tends to align itself on a partisan basis. Neither the liberal nor the conservative media outlets are likely to give up their access to political elites.
So, could a third party supplant one of the other two? Well, Tea Party adherents are actually attempting to take over the Republican Party. Can they succeed? Both parties are dominated by those groups that provide funding. Until these major funders turn away from the party elites, the Tea Party supporters will likely lose, much as the social conservatives did in the previous generation. The only way that the funders will stop financially supporting the leadership is if the Republicans agree to any tax increases, so no changes can be made.









May 11th, 2011 at 9:48 am
I don’t think there should even be parties. We should combine efforts for one common goal and quit fighting all the time.
May 11th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Jen, you’re ideal defines the kumbaya party,you’d have to get everyone on the same page as far as goals are concerned.
Only in a perfect world baby.. only in a perfect world.
As a recovering liberal I find this interesting but not odd.
Consevatisms ideology, individualism, self reliance, etc, literally saved me from death due to drugs and alcohol.
But still, as a product of the 60s the stiff silver hair missionary position only con who cant just fcking cut loose and let it all hang out and join the Bohemian clusterfck of free expression without concern of peer pressure…
gets to me.
I’m not talking abandonment of responsibility, and Hait Asbury is a gleaming example of communal failure.
What I’m hoping for is a party that can relate to core conservative principles while still showing some soul impulsive behavior without looking like fckin rainbow/pink code parade.
And eccept Ozzie and Metallica if anything just for talent.
Gotta loosen up,get with Nugent and the whole phootang thing guys
May 11th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
If you look at what just happened in Canada 2 weeks ago, the Liberal Party (and they really are liberal) just became a third party after forcing a vote of no confidence over budget issues. The Conservative Party won huge gains and the previous third party, the National Democrat Party, or NDP, became No. 2.
It is often said that what ever happens in Canada eventually happens here within a decade or so.
May 11th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Jen: “I don’t think there should even be parties. We should combine efforts for one common goal and quit fighting all the time.”
Micky: “Jen, you’re ideal defines the kumbaya party”
George Washington: “I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the State, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally… the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.”
Anyway. I really think the Republican party should split into (1) the regular extreme right wing GOP party and the (2) batsht-crazy detached-from-reality Teabagger Party.
May 11th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
It is often said that what ever happens in Canada eventually happens here within a decade or so.
Uh oh. The scourge of socialist health care be at our northern gates!
May 11th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
How about a new country? Put ‘em all in Arizona and build a wall around it, and change back to 49 states.
Then we be a better place in less than no time.
May 12th, 2011 at 6:55 am
The Tea Party, may indeed, be the downfall of the Republican Party. While they increased turnout in a mid-term election, they are not known for compromise.
While that is certainly their right, elections are generally won “in the middle”.
Moderate Republicans are hamstrung and the Tea Party will have a tough time in the next election that will have a decidedly different demographic structure.
It will largely come down to the state of the economy in the months leading up to the election, but the fact that the Republican Party is now “Two parties in one” will be problematic.
May 12th, 2011 at 9:44 am
“The Tea Party, may indeed, be the downfall of the Republican Party. While they increased turnout in a mid-term election, they are not known for compromise.”
Yeah, I think they’ll settle for some agreements if it doesnt entail too much moonbattery.
“While that is certainly their right, elections are generally won “in the middle”.”
True, but The Tea Party will no doubt bring in more right of center voters in addition to the fence sitters who have grown sick of this administration.
“Moderate Republicans are hamstrung and the Tea Party will have a tough time in the next election that will have a decidedly different demographic structure.”
Yeah, at Barrys rate, more minorities will vote republican by the time 2012 comes around
“It will largely come down to the state of the economy in the months leading up to the election,”
Heh heh, hes going to need way more than a year and a half to fix his own bullsht never the crap he claims he inherited”
” but the fact that the Republican Party is now “Two parties in one” will be problematic.”
Are you kidding me ? I think the liberals better start deciding how many of their different factions are going to vote under one banner. You guys have so many sub groups and tributaries its amazing you can all gather in one room without killing each other.
We could start with shooting Bin Laden in the eye juxtaposed to waterboarding, then move on to just how many of you are willing to accept or reject the many many promises your messiah has broken
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