The battle over the budget in Wisconsin is showing no signs of cooling down and now other members of union thugdom are flocking to the Badger State to show solidarity with Wisconsin’s thug teachers. AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka, one of the most violence prone union chiefs of all of them, has winged his way to Madison, Wisconsin to horn his way into the TV spotlight.
Trumka has a long history of involving himself in violent union clashes, condoning the same and in one case even getting up to his neck in the murder of a man named Eddie York in 1993.
Imagine, this is the kind of vile, scum that Wisconsin’s teachers are holding up to American school children as a model citizen!
If you’d like to see what sort of lowlives Wisconsin has promulgated upon her school children, Doug Ross has a great post showing fifteen of the most egregious protest signs being toted by Wisconsin’s thug teachers at the state capitol.
These teachers were carrying signs that called Republicans “dicks,” (very grown up isn’t it?), they have signs with a crosshair symbol over Governor Scott Walker’s face, they have signs calling Republicans and Walker Nazis, one says that the GOP is “raping” people. One says that Gov. Walker is like Hosni Mubarak and there are others that call Walker a “dictator.”
This is all exactly the sort of behavior that the entire Old Media establishment accused the whole of the conservative, Tea Party right in engaging when Representative Giffords was shot not long ago. So, where are all the left-wingers and their clucking tongues about these ignoramuses in Wisconsin? Why are we not seeing every broadcast worried over the “violent rhetoric” of these teachers? Where is Nanny Obama to say that we need more civility”?
Ah, that’s right. The hypocrite left only wants conservatives to be shut up. I forgot.
We must also remember what this fight is about. Basically what Governor Walker is asking the unions to accede to is for members to pay a bit more into their healthcare and pension plans so that he doesn’t have to start laying off state workers. And what is the thanks he’s getting by trying to save these union thug’s jobs? He’s being attacked as a “dictator.”
Finally we must also point out another thing, here. These union thugs are trying to destroy the democratic system. These union cretins are telling the voters of Wisconsin, a majority of whom have sent a solidly Republican government to office, that their votes are meaningless. These union thugs are saying that no matter what the voters say, the unions should have the final word. These unionistas are saying that democracy is a sham in Wisconsin as far as they are concerned.
Now Walker is not trying to end government employee unions in Wisconsin but this whole situation is further proof that all state governments should be making the elimination of public employee unions a top priority. Most Americans aren’t aware that public employee unions did not exist until the late 50s/early 60s and that even Democrat Party demigod Franklin D. Roosevelt was against public employee unions.
Public employee unions are entirely antithetical to good government and should be once again made illegal. This business in Wisconsin proves this out.









February 18th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
You still haven’t actually explained how stating my opinions is “patronizing”. We’re having a debate here, in which you disagree with me and I disagree with you. How exactly does it work out that I’m being patronizing and you are not?
And actually, reading a comment above, you’re the one hurling around personal insults at people whom you do not even know.
And if we’re going to talk about the central planning miracle that is interstate water sharing, perhaps we should mention the millions of innocent people literally murdered in the areas of the world where the true end game of central planning has bloomed.
February 18th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
“Warner has disparaged people who work hard, physically, every day. If he’s not union bashing,”
going down the highway the other day traffic was backed up at 12 noon.
When I finally got to the front of it all there were two cops and three guys in orange vests filling on freaking pot hole !!!!
Work hard ????
Puhleeese
February 18th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
“one” freaking pot hole
sorry
February 18th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
micky: “The present actions in Wisconsin will lower the demand for over paid parasitic state employees for the simple fact that their demands are not sustainable.”
Parasites. Hmm. Maybe Warner can hook you up with a ticket to CPAC next year. If you’re going to trash social workers and home health care workers and teachers and whatnot, you should get paid for it, don’t you think? Really, I think Warner can hook you up.
February 18th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Unless your premise is that anyone has the freedom to creat a union, they just can’t use it for anything if the employer doesn’t want it.
Um, yeah. And your premise is, what exactly? That employers should be legally required to do business with a unionized work force? That would be awesome for small business and the economy in general.
February 18th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
“Parasites. Hmm. Maybe Warner can hook you up with a ticket to CPAC next year. If you’re going to trash social workers and home health care workers and teachers and whatnot, you should get paid for it, don’t you think? Really, I think Warner can hook you up.”
Why are you obsessed with what good citizens do with their time ?
I object to my government or any government paying my taxes to an unsustainable system…
GOT IT !!
February 18th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Talk about arrogance…
“You’re such an inherently dishonest person, you can’t even help it, can you? You couldn’t even have come up with your snotty little post without relying on two false premises – one, that i’m on here all day, which I’m not. And second, that I asked you how much you made, which I didn’t. I asked you who is paying you to write your union hitjobs and rightwing propaganda.”
And who are you that I should immediately accede to your demands that I disclose my finances? And why is it you assume ANYONE is paying me to write any particular piece, anyway?
And anyone that says I have “disparaged people who work hard, physically, every day” is simply a lair.
Of course, I’d be happy to see that person back up their claim.
So, go ahead. PROVE that some shadowy corporate conglomerate pays for my lunch. PROVE I have disparaged hard working people.
Certainly I’ve attacked unions. That is a given. Absolutely I’ve disparaged Democrats.
Still, if sources of income are so important to be aired, I say YOU start first. Detail your finances. I’ll be happy to reply to THAT post, I have to say.
February 18th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
Alright guys, it’s been real, but it’s time for me to toke down a Friday afternoon bowl and chill out on the couch. Or hell, maybe go outside, it’s beautiful in Central NC today.
Anyway, have a good weekend, see you guys soon.
February 18th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Ginnie is saying some heartfelt truth here, much more than I expected to find. The truth is, in a free country, there has to be a legal formula for employees to bargain either individually or collectively with a big employer. Remember they gave corporations the same rights as inidividual citizens last century, and we cannot just by force of the states police take away individual citizens job bargaining rights this one. A competent forthright governor can put forth a sane budget plan that offers affordable compensation and lobby for that. thats his job, rather than to just give away the state. Often in the past they didn’t negotiate accurately. He need not strong arm employees. Ginnie is right, the bigger issue is a complete loss of all employee rights for all of us. This is the republican rights attempt at further taking our working rights. Why on earth a governor would give unions the right to use the last year or two’s overtime to calculate their payout is surely something I wouldn’t do. but I think they have a basic right to come to the table to negotiate. I would just do my job as a governor by costing things out way into the future to show just what is really affordable and yes all employees will have to pay into plans more and overtime will have to be reduced and things like comp time used as an alternative, and I am not sure why we are wedded to a 40 hour work week in this day and age. the numbers will have to add up well into the future. But unions brought us child labor laws, week ends, vacations, shorter work days, and better wages that helped create our middle class. They have done some good.
February 18th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Bear in mind the people at the top of our society are more aggressive than most of us, and they do want all the money. Its an obsession with them and they will structure jobs, businesses, wallstreet, the law, schools, and all of it to accomplish their goal. In theory at least, unions do offer the small fish a bit of protection that the little fish can’t get by themselves. Do not underestimate the wealthy elite in this countries voracious hunger for more, more, more no matter what the social cost or disparity between classes. Why? Because they are more aggressive.
February 18th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
I bet a friend Jesse Rainbow Jackson would show up in Wisconsin and I’m not a betting sort of person…LOL Off to my steak dinner!
February 18th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Rhayader: “Um, yeah. And your premise is, what exactly? That employers should be legally required to do business with a unionized work force? That would be awesome for small business and the economy in general.”
Looking at the REALITY of the employment situation, this is a moot point you are arguing as most unions are organized around industries where there is a concentrated monopoly of employers. We’re not talking about unionizing the local dry cleaning shop, so why are you trotting out the small business canard? The state of Wisconsin is certainly not a small business, and neither is US Steel or GM.
Warner: “Still, if sources of income are so important to be aired, I say YOU start first. Detail your finances. I’ll be happy to reply to THAT post, I have to say.”
Well, it’s no one in any way, shape or form associated with politics. What about the sources of your income? Can you say the same?
February 18th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
“The state of Wisconsin is certainly not a small business, and neither is US Steel or GM.”
GM and US steel arent taxing me
February 18th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
micky: “Who the fck are you to determine someones dollar worth whether they’re shoveling sht or a college professor ?”
Thanks, I’d be happy to tell you! I’m someone who has worked both blue collar and white collar jobs, so I know exactly how overpaid the latter are. I waited tables for YEARS, working for restaurants that pawned off their labor costs for servers on the general public, then bitched whenever servers would complain about having their hours shortened just enough per week so they wouldn’t be eligible for a single health care benefit. Or having to work in kitchens where the floors were always so wet, you were in danger of breaking your neck everytime you went back there. And having to work doubles on holidays, but your hours would be cut off JUST AT the forty hour mark so you wouldn’t qualify for any full-time benefits.
And let me tell you, the work I’ve done since after graduating college was nowhere near as hard and stressful.
But even waiting tables is nowhere near as hard as being a home health care aid. Especially not as hard as being a teacher or a cop. So I have respect for those people and their rights to negotiate for their talent and training. Hell, if I didn’t have a husband and a child and host of other family members that need me, I’d be marching in Wisconsin right now. I may do so anyway!
February 18th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
“Well, it’s no one in any way, shape or form associated with politics. What about the sources of your income? Can you say the same?”
Why does it matter as long as its legal ?
If you’re a fed/state employee I’m your source of income and should be able to vote on how my money is appropriated to you. What gives you the right to bargain with my money if I’m not represented ?
The people should vote on whats done with their money within the government.
Not greedy parasites
This is the case with Walker.
Hes doing what he campaigned on and was elected to do.
The majority of Wisconsin supports him.
Ya know, the “taxpayers voice”?
February 18th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
micky: “GM and US steel arent taxing me”
And they aren’t protecting you, or putting out your house fires, or teaching your kids or there on standby if you ever are ill and incontinent and need someone to hold a bedpan under you, you ungrateful bitter old man.
February 18th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
micky: “The people should vote on whats done with their money within the government.
Not greedy parasites”
I can’t speak for every state worker, but the ones I know are meagerly paid and hard workers, so stop calling all of them parasites.
God, you’re horrible and hateful. I never quite fully realized how much.
February 18th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
micky: “What gives you the right to bargain with my money if I’m not represented ?”
Well, it’s like this. People are endowed with the rights they fight for. That’s how rights are earned. If you want to earn the “right” to take those rights away, then get yourself to Wisconsin and fight the unions. Somehow, I think you are going to get your a$$ handed to you. People are sick of this BS coming from the rightwingers. You’ve all tried your damnedest for years to make American workers feel like scum. Did you honestly not think eventually people would have enough?
What’s happening in Wisconsin is just the beginning, mark my words. Even if this battle is lost, a giant has been awakened.
February 18th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
“That’s how rights are earned. ”
Thats not what the constitution says.
Try reading it.
The “FACTS” are this.
The majority of the people in Wisconsin voted to have this done with “their” money.
“WE The People” are the employer and can vote to fire these parasites if we want.
February 18th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
“God, you’re horrible and hateful. I never quite fully realized how much.”
I’ve worked unions in the hotel/rest business, ironworker and retail.
i can appreciate workers having safety nets against abuse.
Our “GOVERNMENT” union workers are not being abused. They are being asked to pay a very small amount of money into their own pensions and healthcare and theres no fundage to allow for any bargaining, collective or otherwise.
They have packages far sweeter than any comparable private sector.
so please…cry me a river
Did you hear the governors presser today ?
The vast majority of his E mails are supporting him.
That would be the people(majority of taxpayers) that voted for him.
Accept that and you’ll be smarter
February 18th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
“God, you’re horrible and hateful. I never quite fully realized how much.”
Are you serious ?
After your off target and personal attacks on Warners life , you’re calling me hateful ?
Good grief woman, go take a Midol or something
February 18th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
micky: “They have packages far sweeter than any comparable private sector.”
So what? The private sector is cheap! No one even gets pensions anymore in the private sector, and the average 401K at retirement is what…$35K, $48K? It’s a joke. The dumbest mistake private sector employees ever made was to fall for the 401K scam. Why would I want my fellow Americans who are still able to eke out a modest pension be robbed of that, after years of accepting smaller salaries in exchange? Hell, they weren’t stupid enough to buy into the 401K scam, should I punish them for that? NO!
If more workers belonged to unions, the better off America would be. How are we going to sustain a consumption economy when everyone is on low wages and has no retirement money??? Use your head for a change!
February 18th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
micky: “After your off target and personal attacks on Warners life , you’re calling me hateful ?”
Good lord, you’re kissing WARNER’S a#!? Have some self-respect! Wow, I’m embarrassed for you right now.
February 18th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
“So what? The private sector is cheap!”
Its private money.
What dont you understand about that ?
“No one even gets pensions anymore in the private sector, and the average 401K at retirement is what…$35K, $48K? It’s a joke.”
Speak for yourself.
I own my own house, my own portfolio bought with money from my own business.
Theres not enough money to run things at the status quo.
Its basic math. Can you absorb that ?
“If more workers belonged to unions, the better off America would be. How are we going to sustain a consumption economy when everyone is on low wages and has no retirement money???”
yeah, lets all work union jobs for the government or hold the private sector hostage every time the price of tea in China goes up !
Thats like having a blanket thats too short and you think cutting off the top and sewing it to the bottom will make it longer ????
The most money I ever made was as an individual.
Fcking unions screwed me in the hotels.
They couldnt pay me enough
No ones kissing Warners ass.
Just pointing out your incredible hypocrisy.
Thats like me getting mad at someone for swearing at me.
I’m crazy but I’m not that stupid
February 18th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Here is a particularly un-American attitude…
“People are endowed with the rights they fight for. That’s how rights are earned.”
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
I’ll take a few minutes to help you out with the American way… You see people are “endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights.” (I realize you’ve never heard these words in your life and that this is a big shock to you.) This means that rights are located in God given, natural rights. Not in the cutthroat would YOU would engender with you foolish ideas of “rights.”
People do NOT “earn” rights that they’ve “fought for.” You see, in that version of life you’d be living in a purely power politics world. If you “won” the right to keep slaves, well that would fit perfectly in your idiotic idea of “rights.” If you were lucky enough to be “endowed” only with the “rights” you fought for then ANYTHING would qualify as a right. Want to shoot your most hated enemy on sight? If you “fight” for it, you are “endowed” with that “right” in your world.
Fortunately we do not live in your horrid world.