With the conflagration currently going on in Egypt, we are seeing perilous times in the Middle East. So many good things and so many bad things could result from all this. And all those “what ifs” remain in the future. So, how does MSNBCs historically illiterate Chris Matthews approach the subject? Why by blaming it all on George W. Bush and by using it as yet another, though quixotic, way to attack the Iraq War, of course.
Seriously. What the Iraq War and George W. Bush have to do with Egypt is impossible to guess, but the mushy, leg-tingly mind of Chris Matthews seems to see it clearly…. despite that he’s the only one.
Here is how he led his show on the 29th:
Leading off tonight: Unrest in Egypt. Proving the Iraq war wasn’t needed, these protests in Egypt, as well as in Yemen and Tunisia, are all aimed at dictators supported by the U.S. The demonstrations have not yet turned anti-American, but they could. These are the events the Bush administration hoped to encourage by lying about weapons of mass destruction and invading Iraq.
“Proving the Iraq war wasn’t needed?” How exactly does the likely fall of the Mubarak regime prove that Bush’s Iraq War was not needed? Well, only in the swampy mind of Matthews does it prove such a thing. This is Bush Derangement Syndrome at it’s most virulent, and stupid. Matthews has allowed his hatred of Bush to crowd out even the tiniest bit of logic, here.
The simple fact of the matter is that Egypt, Tunisia, Yemen, the situations in the Arab Middle East and near areas have been brewing for many decades. George W. Bush neither caused, started, nor enflamed the mess that these Arab dictators have built. In fact, every president from Truman onward had his hand in the Arab Middle East so to pin all of it on George W. Bush is simple-minded and childish partisan hackery.
But there isn’t even any logic in his own reasoning even if you wanted to believe Matthews. As Powerline says:
Next Matthews claims that the Bush administration “hoped to encourage” the events (i.e., riots and their suppression) that we now see in Egypt, Yemen and Tunisia. But wait! Didn’t Matthews just say that all of these governments are “supported by the U.S.?” So why would Bush (or Obama) want to encourage riots against those governments?
Matthews cannot even follow his own line of logic and reach a sensible conclusion.
Then there is the long discredited “lying about WMDs” blather that Matthews brainlessly mumbles. Every Democrat, every Republican and the head of nearly every other nation on earth thought that Saddam had WMDs. After all, he’d used them in the past (chemical, not nuclear).
Bush may have been wrong about Saddam’s WMDs but he did not lie about them. It isn’t a “lie” to be wrong about something. There’s never been the slightest proof that Bush knew that there were no WMDs. Like 99 percent of the world at the time George W. Bush thought that there were WMDs in Iraq before the invasion.
The only people that continue to claim that Bush lied are haters that simply don’t care about truth and want only to find ways to attack the one person they hate more than any others (except maybe themselves): George W. Bush.
Chris Matthews is a partisan hack that doesn’t deserve to be afforded any legitimacy whatsoever.









January 30th, 2011 at 10:17 am
The biggest mistake of Bush upon entering Iraq was not finding the WMD’s. I would have made sure “something” was found.
In the grand tradition of American misinformation I would have found hundreds of drums of bio-weapons materials with Iraqi government writing on them.
How could I be sure they were found? Because I would have brought and buried them.
If necessary, we should have also found a bio-lab a week later. Why a week later? Because it would take me that long to build it and make it appear “old and used”.
If you play in the “big boy” world it sometimes necessary to manipulate world opinion.
January 30th, 2011 at 10:36 am
if the person writing this thread isn’t a political hack then you have no meaning of the word. none at all.
January 30th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Brian is actually Chris Matthews.
I guess Matthews is assuming that the Iraqi people would rise up on their own against Saddam.
Too bad he forgot what happened to those who tried
January 30th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
“Historically illiterate” Umm, please provide an example of Matthews being illiterate. Hmm, author of five books? Even if you disagreed with his politics, his books were never criticized on a literary basis.
Probably because he had a lot of experience writing political briefs during his time serving people that held office.
January 30th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
What is interesting about this is the concessions that Warner Tedd makes. Bush was WRONG, but he did not LIE, etc.
Warner Tedd, the first thing that any liar must learn to do is STICK TO YOUR LIES. Never, ever admit anything; never, ever make any concessions, no matter the evidence against you, no matter what. Mr. Mark Twain is the best philosopher to read, when it comes to lying.
Look at it like this: When you lie, you are creating an alternate reality. Who’s to say what reality is really the real one? Esp. today, now we got computers and all of their virtualosity [sic], etc.
So right here, Warner Tedd, you have screwed up big time by admitting that Bush was WRONG about the WMDs in Iraq. IRAQ HAD WMDs. You should hammer on this and hammer on this, no matter what.
They didn’t, but after a while, who’s left to care?
January 30th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
“Umm, please provide an example of Matthews being illiterate. ”
As you said at first but then configured it only to “illiterate” you are being disengenuos, in my book, full o sht.
“Historically illiteate” means to ignore the facts.
Got it ?
And the facts are this.
No one has proven that Bush lied contempotuosly to make the case for war.
Any fcking idiot would ask himself
“what reason did Bush have lie for?”
None.
In the face of every UN resolution being violated, every peace and surrender agreement being violated, Bush and the coalition of 21 other intelligence agencies had warranted reason to believe the invasion was necessary regardless of WMD.
Tis you who is the liar until you can prove your claims thast Bush lied with malice and ill intent.
No has proven this so far.
As a matter of of fact the only FBI agent that drilled Sadam foe a whole year asked him. “why didnt you just show the inspectors you had no WMD?”
Saddam answered ” I had to maintain the appearance of WMD so my enemies would fear me.
January 30th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Buzzbee
Your first comment confirms that its a good thing you’re not in office.
period
January 30th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
“Can’t see the forest for the trees” would accurately describe Bush. He couldn’t (or wouldn’t) examine the evidence, or lack thereof, objectively, for fear of not getting the desired answer.
He had acute tunnel vision, which led to seeing yellow cake where it did not exist and subsequently punishing the messenger.
What a costly mistake this war was: politically, economically and most of all in the needless loss of life by American young people.
This is why decisions of this magnitude should not be fueled by faith and/or emotion.
Cold and calculating is the more prudent approach.
Instead he was surrounded by sycophants and egomaniacs, such as Rumsfield, who decided he knew more about how to manage a war (lean and understaffed) rather than follow the direction of veteran military men.
The press, however, initially loved him as he was quick with a smart-aleck, condescending quip. That act, however, quickly grew thin as he was exposed as a blowhard.
January 30th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
the sound you hear is me fast clapping for Klo’s most excellant speech.
January 30th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
“the sound you hear is me fast clapping for Klo’s most excellant speech.”
I thought it was your glutes bangin together.
Klo;
“What is interesting about this is the concessions that Warner Tedd makes. Bush was WRONG, but he did not LIE, etc.
Warner Tedd, the first thing that any liar must learn to do is STICK TO YOUR LIES. Never, ever admit anything; never, ever make any concessions, no matter the evidence against you, no matter what.”
So, I guess its a bad thing when someone admits they relayed flawed intel ?
Sounds like you’re the ass-hole whos got lying down to a science.
I mean what the hell, Brian the liar liked it
January 30th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
No, Mickey, my first comment is why I “should” be in office. Just like in the business world, perception is important.
That is why we would have been well-served and could have wielded more power if we did not commit armed forces to Iraq.
Especially since our military is best suited for a conventional ground war. Other countries were not so aware of that before Iraq. Now they are.
“Bullets in the chamber are often more valuable than bullets spent.”
Heck, even poker players know better. As Doyle Brunson stated, “It isn’t the cards in your hand, it is the cards your opponents think you have in your hand.”
January 30th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
True, Micky, EVERYBODY thought Saddam was building nukes, including the French, Germans and Russians. Saddam admitted after his capture that he wanted the world to think he was. OOPS! So who’s lying here? Bush just went along with what everybody else thought.
Chris Matthews is an idiot. If the truth were a barn he couldn’t touch it with a bass fiddle. He’s just a nattering Nabob.
January 30th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
I see micky never absorbed my projection lecture. an incomplete for him
January 30th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Matthews doesn’t lie. he use to be a capital hill cop and then worked for the dems. He is an interactive pundit and talks fast and is provocative at times, but not extremely so. There are real, true, problems with some of the republican and right wing people people frankly. He is right about Bachman, and Palin and that nevada lady, they really do come off half-off their shell everytime they open their mouths.
January 30th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
Buzzbee, contrary to your assertion/claims at least Bush was man enough to admit he was wrong instead of being the kind of insincere and decptive little prick you suggest.
Bottom line is this.
It doesnt matter if he or the rest of the world was wrong about WMD.
There was still insurmountable evidence justifying the war.
January 30th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
brian;”I see micky never absorbed my projection lecture. an incomplete for him’
That reminds me.
You never did tell me how many froot loops you could stack on your pencil dick
January 30th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
“That is why we would have been well-served and could have wielded more power if we did not commit armed forces to Iraq. ‘
Only an idiot thinks we went there ONLY for hearts and minds and to oust a monster.
I’ve had this debate literally “a hundred times now” and you’re as clueless as they come.
As soon as we arrived in Iraq we proceeded to build the largest US embassy anywhere in the world.
Chew on that and the implications and get back to me when you stop looking out from that one dimensional moonbat peep hole.
January 30th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
mickey I think you must have been expelled in the first week of first grade, probably sent to the ag farm school. had to be.
January 30th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Brian;”Matthews doesn’t lie. he use to be a capital hill cop and then worked for the dems. He is an interactive pundit and talks fast and is provocative at times, but not extremely so. There are real, true, problems with some of the republican and right wing people people frankly. He is right about Bachman, and Palin and that nevada lady, they really do come off half-off their shell everytime they open their mouths.”
Brian, you really need to get a new shtick, or at least put some meat and examples behind the one you’re carrying.
(psst, no one watches Chris, first olberman.
Chris is next)
January 30th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
“mickey I think you must have been expelled in the first week of first grade, probably sent to the ag farm school. had to be.”
Hmm..
I fail to see how that proves your claim that Bush intentionally “cooked the books” to make the case for war.
You havent proven it yet but to ask me if I dont see in a youtube clip what you see.
You’re soooooooo pathetic
January 30th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Iraq, just another station for our world police force. How nice of us to keep peace throughout the world for no cost.
We did it in the past because we could afford it and it was good for business.
The “we never leave” philosophy is no longer viable. We are no longer welcome, nor do we need to be in Okinawa, Germany etc.
If countries need our military help they should ask. If we agree, we provide an estimate, take a deposit and do the job.
Despite flaws, we still have a formidable military. It is one of the few things we still do well. The world wants security? Let them pay for it.
January 30th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Yeah… here is what sort of “historian” Chrissy Matthews is…
He think the Panama Canal is in Egypt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAPir73mydA
January 30th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
so micky you belive bachman’s statements and take on things like history etc?
January 30th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Or was it Cheerios ?
January 30th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Apple Jacks ?