The State of Utah will probe an illegal immigrant list. The investigation will determine if state employees leaked some 1,300 people’s Social Security numbers. Each of them considered to be illegal immigrant on the list. How did they get leaked and how did the alleged leak become public?
An anonymous group apparently mailed the list to a number of media outlets and to several law enforcement agencies. The list has caused a commotion among the Latino population in Utah. reports that a letter which was enclosed with the list demands that those on the list should be deported immediately.
According to sources, the list not only includes Social Security numbers, but also names, addresses, dates of birth, phone numbers and even their places of work. Some of those on the list also have their children named. Such personal information even includes due dates for those on the list who are pregnant or expecting children.
Dave Lewis of Utah’s Department of Workforce Services said “We’ve got some people in out technology department looking at it right now. It’s a high priority.” Tony Yapias, a former director of the Utah Office of Hispanic Affairs said of the Latino community “They’re feeling terrorized. They’re very scared.”
The Utah probe of the illegal immigrant list was ordered by Utah Governor Gary Herbert, a Republican. His aim is to find out which, if any, state agency may have leaked the information. The list with the 1,300 names, Social Security numbers, and other personal information was also sent to the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement office. ICE reports having received a similar letter in April but with fewer names.
July 14th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
And this is wrong why???
I feel terrorized by the vast number of illegal aliens in MY country…now I should be concerned with them being caught? The person(s) responsible should be given medals!
July 14th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Here’s a simple question…
are they illegal immigrants? If so, will they face any charges?
or is it butt kissing time and the PC Police are in town?
July 14th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
I’m kind of conflicted on this. We need to do something about the immigration issue, but I question the validity of an “anonymous” list just handed over. Where did it come from, and how did it get distributed?
July 14th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Better yet why dont we just check questionable individuals against our data base ?
Oh, I forgot, that makes too much sense
July 14th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
I agree in full !
If you are an illegal to this country then none of the information that was disclosed on this list is legal in this country, so who cares
It is time for our politicians to get off their ass and do something about this situation and not listen to the bleeding hearts with out a brain to see what is happening to the US.
July 14th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
What part of “Illegal” don’t these people understand. They do not have rights in our country.
July 14th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
How would illegals get a social security number? The only way I know is identity theft.How dare we expose illegals in the country, what rights do we have to defend our homes and property? The democrats will fix everything with Amnesty, see, no problem.
July 14th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
first of all, they are not illegal aliens, they are of the human race like all of us, they are undocumented persons….
secondly, which is truely my concern is if this “confidential” information is so easily leaked, what’s to keep the “leaker” from leaking MY information or what if the “list” is not accurate? because it has been my experience that gomes is pronounced [gomes] as in [homes] AND pronounced [gom-hez]…so who’s to say if it is accurate…
All I know is that innocent people,(including me, because my last name SOUNDS Spanish and I do look latin)will be harrassed…As a US citizen I am supposed to be free of such, yes I’ll say it, cruel and unusual treatment, in this case it would be a punishment for simply looking a certain way and having a last name that can be pronounced differently…you say patato..I say patatoe… I have already been profiled as latin where I live, though I am as white American as apple pie and baseball, I have nothing against latin communities, infact my most longest, sincerest and dearest friend is Mexican, she is my sister. But I do have a problem with being harassed and obligated to prove who I am… doesn’t the burden to show proof lay on the accuser??? I think it’s an outrage and unjust that US citizens, in a similar position to mine, would have to bend over backwards to prove our citizenship… sad, sad day in the good ol’ USA =(
July 14th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
@Janie: Put the blame where it belongs. If the illegal aliens ( CRIMINALS ) stayed the he!!out of our country , or came here LEGALLY then we wouldn’t have to resort to such methods to protect ourselves.
I don’t care what country you come from…if you sneak in, you are a criminal. Period. We have enough of our own home-grown miscreants, thank ya very much.
July 14th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
@jo: agree to some degree…but remember criminals come in all shapes and sizes, and yes you are right, many are American too, so it is really unfair to say to put the blame where it belongs, because…well, where does it belong? On Peter, on Nathan, on Jose, and Rimandar, on Heidi, on Maria, on Patel….I just saying that the leak should not have happened that way there’s no way of telling if innocent people like you and I are on that list…and I for one don’t feel like being harassed, because I know, without a doubt, at the end of the day I will be harrassed….so as you put it resorting to such methods to protect ourselves is necessary…really means that as long as you LOOK “LEGAL” you’re OK, and well, that’s not OK with me because, well, I look “ILLEGAL” and that’s the problem I have with it….totally innocent but guilty by appearence….sad….
I’m sure you have never been pulled over on a country road by the INS, not the HP, and asked for your “papers”, not your license, but your “papers”…well I have, it made me VERY LATE to a very important meeting for my job, I showed him my ID and TRIED to explain to him that I am/was a US citizen… but he insisted on my “papers”, when I told him that I didn’t have “papers” he asked me to step out of my car…I said “NO”, rolled up my window, locked my door and called the local HP office…I was afraid that the INS officer would use force to remove me from my car and who knows what else…I was seriously scared…and I had done NOTHING wrong or illegal, not a single traffic violation, for which he would not have the legal right to pull me over for even if I had,…so once the HP arrived I cracked my window just enough to converse with him, the HP called my employer to COMFIRM my status, just to appease the INS officer, even after the HP told him that he had no legal right to have pulled me over, I was there for 2+ hours…tell me does that seem right, if even just to “protect” myself…that is harassment, it was racial profiling and IT WAS WRONG!!!!
soo…you see how and why I have a problem with something like that?!
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July 14th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
@ janie
They are trespassers, thieves, and parasites. Other than that – I will miss them when they are gone – not quite as much as I miss the last case of crabs I had – but lots just the same.
Did you have your papers when the imaginary agents from the defunct agency busted you and Mulder?
July 14th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
JAMIES (not got a gun)
“first of all, they are not illegal aliens, they are of the human race like all of us, they are undocumented persons….”
I got news for you. They’re illegal “humans” when they sneak across our border.
“Undocumdented” means they lack the documentation to reside whithin our countrys perimeters legally.
“I’m sure you have never been pulled over on a country road by the INS, not the HP, and asked for your “papers”, not your license, but your “papers”…
This is bullsht, and you’re full of it for setting up a premise, a scenario if you will, that has only been clarified umpteen freeking times.
Requests for documentation allowing your presence in our country is only to be asked for if…
You cant say where you work, live, are headed or produce an American license, I.D. green card etc…Then you will be asked by the cop (INS doesnt make traffic stops unless you’re actually crossing the border)for some documentation IE Work visa etc….
Got it ?
You morons arent gonna be happy until Abu Dabi sneaks across with a back pack full of enriched Iranian plutonium.
Well, God knows, you might be happy to see all us racist xenopobes glowing green like real aliens
July 14th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
I’m willing to bet $5 that this is some sort of inside job by a state employee sympathetic to the illegal ALIEN cause. Utah is considering a similar bill to Arizona’s. This stunt brings the issue up and makes those who want THE LAW to be followed look bad.
July 14th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Yeah, its probably the illegals themselves
July 14th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
“it was racial profiling and IT WAS WRONG!!!!”
I didnt know a$$hole was a race.
Besides that, you’d of had a great law suit if that (profiling)were true.
Maybe you’re just really hot and INS wanted to hook up ?
seriously, this is all such bullsht.
If cops were pulling people over all the time just because they werent white we’d have to hire about 60 million more
July 14th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
To all of you who THINK that this “scenario” is made up, even though it happened in the early 90’s…it’s not, and YES it was a GREAT,A HELL of a law suit, YES I did win, YES I took the “hush-Money” and NO I am NOT ashamed of it, YES, I now live VERY comfortably, thank you,and I was pulled over by an INS officer NOT a cop or HP…Idiot,oh I mean, Mickey, I am a college-educated, intelligent person…I know the difference
@ Mickey—{“Undocumdented” means they lack the documentation to reside whithin our countrys perimeters legally.} IDIOT! YOU SAID IT YOURSELF…lacking proper documentation to LIVE in MY country is “undocumented” regardless of how they got here…If you are going to slam and chalk-up my “scenario” as a false statement, at least get you definitions correct…
@Mickey: “This is bullsht, and you’re full of it for setting up a premise, a scenario if you will, that has only been clarified umpteen freeking times.Requests for documentation allowing your presence in our country is only to be asked for if…
You cant say where you work, live, are headed or produce an American license, I.D. green card etc…Then you will be asked by the cop (INS doesnt make traffic stops unless you’re actually crossing the border)for some documentation IE Work visa etc….
Got it ?”
YES, I do get it, but apparently you don’t…
-FIRST, GET IT, “your presence in our country” is incorrect, it should say “THEIR presence in our country”
–SECOND, I answered ALL his questions, where I was going, what for, where I was born and where I lived and my license IS A AN AMERICAN license…are we, as US citizens supposed to carry our birth certificates? would you?, and graciouly produce it along with your AMERICAN license whenever ask for it? As American citizens we shouldn’t have to! YES, moron, I know INS doesn’t make traffic stops…that in part, was why I won my case…the HP asked me for my license, I gave it to him, the HP, Sgt. Connor, was very upset and disappointed that the INS stopped me, he was an excellent witness at the court proceedings…
I LOVE MY RED, WHITE AND BLUE, perhaps more than even you do…that’s why I am so upset, BECAUSE I AM AN AMERICAN, A US CITIZEN and it is disheartening to me that I would even have to worry about this AGAIN! IN MY OWN COUNTRY!!
I know what the law says, and I am in favor of doing something, but this is just too “open”, too vague, what’s blue to me may be green to you…I do not want to find myself suing again, but I will if it happens again….
“I didnt know a$$hole was a race.” BOY, WHAT A CHARMER YOU MUST BE[PUKE], apparently “a$$hole” is not a race, just people like you…
“Besides that, you’d of had a great law suit if that (profiling)were true.” IT WAS,ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK, THANKS!
“Maybe you’re just really hot and INS wanted to hook up ?” STUPID PEOPLE SAY STUPID THINGS, STUPID…AND “a$$holes” ALWAYS RESORT TO SEXIST COMMENTS WHEN THEY’VE BEEN HAD…BY A WOMAN!!
I LOVE MY COUNTRY, I DO MY PART TO TRY AND MAKE IT A BETTER PLACE, I OBEY THE LAWS AND I REFUSE TO BE PUNISHED BECAUSE OTHERS DO NOT, MY AMERICAN FLAG WAVES PROUDLY ON MY PORCH POST, 365 DAYS OF THE YEAR, MY FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE BLED AND DIED FOR ME (AND YOU) TO HAVE, ENJOY AND EXERCISE OUR RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS… AND TO KEEP OUR COUNTRY FREE OF AGAINST OUR OWN…HOW DARE YOU CALL MY EXPERIENCE “such bullsht” TO BAD WE ALLOW MORONIC IDIOTS, SUCH AS YOUR FINE SELF, THE SAME RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS…SO TO YOU I SAY GOOD DAY! I SAY GOOD DAY!!–The End…
July 14th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
I can think of a whole lot of people I’d like to deport rather than the people on this list, or any other illegal aliens.
I can give you my list, if you like.
July 14th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Micky, you’re at the top.
July 14th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
I believe that they should investigate where the leak came to allow legal, non-discimatory seach and investigation of listed people and State should be allowed to enforce laws that the federal gov’t have been unable to do if they do it right. EVERYONE should have to provide documentation for every pull over. Ohh, and the goverment should re-evaluate the immigration process, my brother in law has been waiting for 2 years and missed the birth of his first born because he’s waiting(and doing the right thing) for his visa and being punished for it, his daughter is 8 months old and has seen her a handful of times. THANKS ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!!!!
July 14th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
If an American entered ANY other country illegally they would be shot, imprisoned, hung, or never heard from again! But, if an illegal immigrant enters the U.S., they are given Welfare, foodstamps, medical, housing, a license and a social security number! Our government does more for illegals than their own citizens
July 14th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
You all, writing about immigrants and illegal aliens probably have a little brown, black or other ethnic background you don’t even know about. For all you know, all your mommas are probably illegal. This country was made from allowing immigrants into this nation.. what do you think the STAUE OF LIBERTY IS ALL ABOUT. You wouldn’t even be here if it weren’t for our countrys American Declaration of Independence.
July 14th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
unless you have the legal right to be in this country you should not be here period. why all the conversation about the subject. yes corporations make money off all people but do the rights of everyday people get stepped on? Our government needs to step up to the plate and real soon. who are our officials protecting?
July 14th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
Americans become Americans buy way of laws and doing the right thing, not by doing illegial things such as crossing the border and paying off somebody to assist them tax free. I know of plenty of people who have done the right thing over the years and are proud of that fact. The American flag means something to them. What does it mean to an illegial immigrant? Nothing I image.
July 15th, 2010 at 12:28 am
you all sound like ignorant idiots. this country was founded by immigrants. if we deported all the illegals in this country the price of produce would triple. sorry, the world is changing. you can’t live in your tea-party envisioned world of comfort forever. i’m sorry youre going to have to live with a few more brown faces in your communities, i really am. These “Illegals” are trying to provide for their families and survive, things you probably have had no trouble doing your whole lives. Deporting these people would cost millions of dollars and do more harm to our economy than help. If we really want to stop immigration, we should just make our borders more secure instead of wasting our money deporting them once they get here.
And Denise, that has to be the stupidest comment I’ve ever read.
July 15th, 2010 at 7:32 am
““scenario” as a false statement, at least get you definitions correct’
Whats correct is that “undocumented” means “illegal”.
I dont give a flying fck which way your bleeding heart sees it.
“-FIRST, GET IT, “your presence in our country” is incorrect, it should say “THEIR presence in our country””
Shtty arguements always demand the introduction of pedantic semantics.
You speak such great fcking English the INS agent should of not bothered as long as you had American I.D or drivers license.
And still baby, I know, I ran coke, heroin, weed, across the border for decades. INS does not pull anyone over unless they’re close to the border. I’ll bet dollars to tacos you werent in Utah.
” I won my case…”
I rest mine.
In continuation, wtf are you b1tching about ?
How often do you think the scenario you encountered would actually take place ?
And if so would it not be a great punitive judgement for those blood sucking aliens you adore so much ?
“I didnt know a$$hole was a race.” BOY, WHAT A CHARMER YOU MUST BE[PUKE], apparently “a$$hole” is not a race, just people like you…’
Dont flatter yourself.
If you havent figured it out by now, I’m not trying to charm you.
But you’re still an a$$hole because of your opening statement; “first of all, they are not illegal aliens, they are of the human race like all of us, they are undocumented persons….”
“Besides that, you’d of had a great law suit if that (profiling)were true.” IT WAS,ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK, THANKS!”
I already backed you on this one. Did I not ?
“Maybe you’re just really hot and INS wanted to hook up ?” STUPID PEOPLE SAY STUPID THINGS, STUPID…AND “a$$holes” ALWAYS RESORT TO SEXIST COMMENTS WHEN THEY’VE BEEN HAD…BY A WOMAN!!”
No, if you had half a clue you’d know that attractive women get pulled over all the time.
Its you whos sexist if you think I need to use that mode to convey your idiocy
July 15th, 2010 at 7:45 am
By the way Jamie.
Cops have always profiled. You just made that point.
So why would Arizonas law enable them to somehow become more indulgent in this practice ?
It actually sets parameters and standards to avoid situations from occuring like those that happened to you.
Oh, by the way. My daughters mom is Latino, hot like Salma Hayek. Gets pulled over constantly.
================@ KLO
I like it that way.
you just bend over.
=================@ Jake.
Jake, I’m not in favor od shipping back 12 to 20 million illegals.
Theres a number of practical and humanitarian reasons why.
But the cost of those who are not just making honest livings runs us about 345 billion a year.
With that tacked on to the stimulus we could pay fcking Warren Buffet to pick lettuce
July 15th, 2010 at 7:57 am
The undocumented citizens whose named were illegally published should sue the state of Utah, and whoever published their private information. . This is an illegal invasion of privacy by citizens of the United States who feel they are the sole owner of Indian stolen land. The native Americans did not publish the names of any of those who invaded and stole their land.
July 15th, 2010 at 8:06 am
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Denise Says:
July 14th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
If an American entered ANY other country illegally they would be shot, imprisoned, hung, or never heard from again——————————————————————-
Actually the so called Americans already entered a country illegaly. They were not hung or shot, As a matter of fact, they, themselves shot, hung and imprisoned my people in reservations.
July 15th, 2010 at 8:14 am
“Oh, by the way. My daughters mom is Latino, hot like Salma Hayek. Gets pulled over constantly.”
Do you really think anybody on this thread believes this? I’m convinced you’re really a homeless man using the free internet at your local library.
July 15th, 2010 at 8:34 am
Liane.
My daughter is half Mexican. I spent at least 13 years in California.
I’m ashining example of the American success story who came here 49 years ago from Denmark “LEGALLY”.
Beat addiction for 15 years now and am an interventionist for “HOMELESS ADDICTS” who now owns his own house and business, been married for 15 years to a Hawaiian, Portugese, Scottish woman who is also “hot like Salma Hayek”.
You see, I’m truly a racist. I prefer exotic brown women.
As a result of what I do I end up in the sleaziest , ugliest, most dangerous situations anyone could dream of in order to help these people because of the poisons that are smuggled across the border.
I’ve been a regular here for 3 years now and my life is fairly well documented.
Oh, its 6 am in Hi right now…
the library doesnt open til 9 am
toodles
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July 16th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Janie, I would gladly show my passport if the law comes knocking at my door if that would mean we are finally taking the problem seriously. The list wouldn’t be necessary if the state were obligated, like Arizona, to pursue known illegals. Think about it. They know all this information and just give them money instead of deportation. 2 desperate people take action on a state doing nothing about illegal activity and you are mad at the only ones trying to do the right thing.
July 17th, 2010 at 10:13 am
What this means is the Utah Department of Workforce Services is supporting illegal aliens, and helping them with their illegal activities and they refuse to do anything about it.
If the welfare dried up, the public assistance, the Medicaid, the food stamps dried up, illegals wouldn’t be as tempted to come here.
What really ticks me off is the businesses. Businesses are externalizing costs by hiring these people and passing the cost off to tax payers. Then the business claims they can’t afford to hire someone at a living wage. You might as hell have the government paying them to hire US citizens.
We the tax payers are subsidizing the businesses that claim they can’t get by paying a living wage so they have to hire these people. The whole system is sick.