One Arizona Senator that wants to stop the border invasion out there says that President Barack Obama will not do so unless he gets comprehensive immigration reform. That means amnesty. Allegedly, Jon Kyl, Obama met in the oval office where the President told the Senator that no border security would happen unless he gets immigration reform. Is Obama holding the border hostage?
Let’s not be too surprised about this; it’s basically what we’ve always known anyway. It’s not like Kyl told us that Obama admitted to him about his dream of a Marxist utopia. To be fair, the Republican Administration before didn’t do much to secure the border either. Both parties have a political agenda which they put ahead of the security of the United States.
But here’s the thing. Did the Jon Kyl Obama meeting take place as he says? In the video, which you can see below, Kyl says that there was no one else in the oval office. Just he and Obama; my guess is the White House will surely deny this took place or at least say that Kyl is mistaken about the substance of the meeting.
If Obama is holding the border hostage, it’s the greatest example of Chicago style, thug politics to date. Well except for maybe the healthcare debacle or the BP shakedown. Okay, he’s adding to his list daily. If the Jon Kyl Obama meeting took place and Obama did say this, then he’s just effectively sealed the fate of democrats where immigration is a huge issue. And Republicans won’t let people forget in 2012 when he’s officially on the ballot. It’s hard to imagine that folks will forgive Barack Obama holding the border hostage as if it were some cheap political token to be bargained with.
June 21st, 2010 at 7:17 am
What Jan Brewer did not say is that the law she signed is not going to work its just to get REELECTED. here are facts.
1, How much MONEY is there for enacting this law$$$$$$$$$$?? NONE
2, How many buses she brought to transfer the tens of thousands of the undocumented??? NONE
3, How many new jails shes built to hold the undocumented ?? NONE
4, How many new Policemen shes hired ?? NONE.
5, How many new court houses shes built to handle the removal proceedings?? NONE.
Can anyone answer these facts?? NOPE . YET THE BRAINLESS WILL VOTE FOR HER THAT SHE SIGNED A PEICE OF PAPER THAT DOES NOTHING, NADA, ZILCSH.
GET REAL YOU TEA DRINKERS, YOU ARE A BRAINLESS LAMB , THE GOP=GRUMPY OLD PEOPLE ARE LEADING YOU AND YOULL FOLLOW WITHOUT USING YOUR OWN BRAINCELLS. WHAT A WASTE.
ALL ARE GODS CHILDREN, ALL WILL ANSWER TO GOD SOONER OR LATER, WHY WERE YOU AGAINST MY OTHER CHILDREN.????
AND YOU’LL CALL YOURSELF CHRISTIANS? WHAT A SHAME.
June 21st, 2010 at 7:20 am
WHY DIDN’T THE REPUBLICANS CLOSE THE BORDERS IN THE 8 YEARS THEY WERE IN CHARGE ?? ANYONE??
THE TRILLION $$$ THEY SPENT ON IRAQ, AND THE THOUSANDS OF LIVES LOST COULD BE SAVED, AND 20.000 COULD BE ADDED TO THE BORDER PATROL TO STOP THE TRAFFICKERS. WHY DID THEY NOT DO IT?/ NOW THEY HAVE THE CHUPTZA TO BLAME IT ON THE DEMOCRATS?
ONLY A BRAINLESS FOLLY WILL BELIEVE THEM.
June 21st, 2010 at 8:38 am
@ FACTS
“Can anyone answer these facts?? ”
They’re not facts you moron.
They’re questions, many of which are moot
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” How much MONEY is there for enacting this law$$$$$$$$$$?? NONE”
How are you determining that additional revenues are needed ?
And has it occured to you that stopping the flow of illegals would pay for itself ?
Since Ar. cops discovery of ones illegal status the only dept that would absorb any additional costs since illegals would be handed right to them would be ICE which is fed funded
“2, How many buses she brought to transfer the tens of thousands of the undocumented??? NONE”
Shes not rounding up “tens of thousands” in one sweep. Each case would only be the result of another lawful stop in progress.
“3, How many new jails shes built to hold the undocumented ?? NONE”
Undocumented without U.S. warrants will be deported moron. No jail needed.
“4, How many new Policemen shes hired ?? NONE.”
Once again. You’re conjuring supposed requisites.
This is not a “sweep” operation. It simply allows Arizona law enforcement in its present state to ask for documentation upon a lawful stop.
“5, How many new court houses shes built to handle the removal proceedings?? NONE.”
You seem to miss the intention of the bill.
The bill is not designed to capture as much as it is to deter those from entering illegaly.
Illegals are fleeing Arizona…get it ?
Any additional proceedings can and more than likely will be handled by closed circuit video proceedings. Theres no need for the physical structures your limited knowledge drives you to think is needed.
“Can anyone answer these facts?? NOPE”
They’re not facts, just stooopid questions you answered yourself.
You might as well say its a fact that no one can explain your delusions and its fact that no one can explain why I havent visited Antarctica. Big fcking deal.
“YET THE BRAINLESS WILL VOTE FOR HER THAT SHE SIGNED A PEICE OF PAPER THAT DOES NOTHING, NADA, ZILCSH.”
As much as the fed bill in place that the present admin. wont honor ?
“GET REAL YOU TEA DRINKERS, YOU ARE A BRAINLESS LAMB , THE GOP=GRUMPY OLD PEOPLE ARE LEADING YOU AND YOULL FOLLOW WITHOUT USING YOUR OWN BRAINCELLS. WHAT A WASTE.”
Yeah, the lemmings following Barry are a stellar example of independent minds.
Those old grumpy GOPrs were not elected into office and werent the ones who said “our planet began to heal” and “the rise of the oceans began to slow.”
Heal my a$$. The planets as fricking dirty as its ever been.
What a shame. You guys brown nosed him until it took a major disaster like the Gulf to wake half of you up that are now ditching his pathetic useless rump
“ALL ARE GODS CHILDREN, ALL WILL ANSWER TO GOD SOONER OR LATER, WHY WERE YOU AGAINST MY OTHER CHILDREN.????
AND YOU’LL CALL YOURSELF CHRISTIANS? WHAT A SHAME.”
Spare me your fire and brimstone bullsht. Jesus never said anyone had to let neighboring villages or countries invade and pillage and steal from each other.
June 21st, 2010 at 8:39 am
Confusius say: Obama one velly big plick!!!
June 21st, 2010 at 8:41 am
“YET THE BRAINLESS WILL VOTE FOR HER THAT SHE SIGNED A PEICE OF PAPER THAT DOES NOTHING, NADA, ZILCSH.”
Oh, by the way.
If its so impotent then why dont you just shut up ?
June 21st, 2010 at 8:51 am
“WHY DIDN’T THE REPUBLICANS CLOSE THE BORDERS IN THE 8 YEARS THEY WERE IN CHARGE ?? ANYONE??”
Uh, lemme see…
Maybe because a closed border would make it impossible for travel, commerce and for those crossing legally to do so ?
But, I’ll give you break. I’m sure you meant “enforce the present fed law” and not “closed”.
Sooo, that leaves us asking why didnt Clinton enforce the laws, Carter ? Obama ?
The dirty little secret which is more “fact” than any of the crap you brought is that capitalists (dem or con) want the cheap labor. Dems want the voting base.
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@ Shannon
May I propose a moratorium on the use of the word “comprehensive” ?
In my experience it just means “it’ll never get done” or “my way”
June 21st, 2010 at 8:56 am
Go, Micky! Go, Micky! Go Micky!
June 21st, 2010 at 9:03 am
“WHY DIDN’T THE REPUBLICANS CLOSE THE BORDERS IN THE 8 YEARS THEY WERE IN CHARGE ?? ANYONE??”
Conservatives endlessly badgered Bush over the border question and have always been passionate about illegal immigration. Remeber that it was conservatives who derailed Bush’s proposed amnesty bill.
So before you suggest that we’re merely picking on Obamy, get your facts straight Facts.
June 21st, 2010 at 9:05 am
These Liberals and their ‘facts’ are so funny.
Where’s the money coming from. Yes, Micky is right, Arizona will save much money by not having the burden of illegals swamping their schools and such. But also, there is Federal money to pay for it! Yes! Uncle Sugar had started a program, 287(g), to train and assist state and local law enforcement in handling illegal immigrants. Not only has Obama not canceled that program, but they actually expanded it last year as part of the so-called stimulus.
Some legal analysts are pointing to 287(g) as supporting the Arizona law in that SB1070 falls within the guidelines to the letter of 287(g).
Dum-Dee-Dum-Dum…, Dum-Dee-Dum-Dum-Dum!
June 21st, 2010 at 9:27 am
What a timely article. It explains why Obama is suing Arizona while giving a state like Missouri a pass even though they have tougher illegal immigration laws.
Why sue Arizona and not Missouri?
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/06/why_sue_arizona_and_not_missou.html
June 21st, 2010 at 9:31 am
Its all about how they want to be perceived by the public. I’m sure they’ve read the bill and know that its just a matter of enforcing the federal bill and is not as tough as the Missouri bill. Surely they know that and are just doing this for show. Surely????
June 21st, 2010 at 10:14 am
Thats right Beth.
Never in my life have I seen an administration like this one thats used and using every issue for their needs instead of the peoples.
Determining the location for KSM and his buddies trial has been delayed til after the elections.
How convenient
June 21st, 2010 at 10:15 am
“Why sue Arizona and not Missouri?”
Cuz Brewers makin him look like a schmuck
June 21st, 2010 at 10:41 am
What Jan Brewer did not say is that the law she signed is not going to work its just to get REELECTED. here are facts.
Brewer was never even elected in the first place.
June 21st, 2010 at 10:55 am
Facts;
“What Jan Brewer did not say is that the law she signed is not going to work its just to get REELECTED. here are facts.”
ME;
“Brewer was never even elected in the first place.”
Who cares ?
If the bill does “NOTHING, NADA, ZILCSH”
as that dingaling “Facts” says how can it help her to another term ?
Whatever the case may be because of this legislation the majority of Arizonians and Americans nationwide are standing beside Brewer.
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Bill Burton says “the president never said that”
Yeah well, then why is he suing Arizona and not applying the fed laws instead ?
We’ll never know who said exactly what but Barrys actions no doubt give Kyls statement credibility.
June 21st, 2010 at 4:08 pm
If they need to save money on buses they can drag a decommissioned aircraft carrier into the desert and use the steam catapult to transport the illegals back to good ole Mexihole.
June 21st, 2010 at 5:53 pm
The Tea Bag Party are just “haters not debaters” or as others have dubbed them “screamers not dreamers”, with their failed attempts at stopping Healthcare reform, they say they respect the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence but they do not mind passing laws, through weak Governors (no one voted for this crazy) who only cares about getting elected Governor, on the backs of undocumented workers, that will not pass Constitution muster.
Brewer signed into law;
1. S.B. 1070,
2. No permit conceal weapons law,
3. The famous Birthers law,
4. Banning Ethnic studies law,
5. Could she be behind the Mural in Prescott, Arizona, ordered to be whiten,
6. On deck to pass, no citizenship to babies born to undocumented workers,
7. If she can read she should look up Arizona’s House Bill 2779 from two years ago (which was un-constitution and failed when legally challenged),
8. The boycotted Martin Luther King Day, what idiots don’t want another holiday? Yes, you guessed it Arizona.
Well Arizona, you can boycott new holidays and keep passing crazy laws and the rest of us will continue to challenged them in a court of law and continue to add cities to our Boycott of your state.
I real cannot believe anything that comes out of Brewer’s mouth, in an interview she first said her father had died in Germany fighting the Nqzi in World War II (war ended 1945) but of course we find out the truth that father was never in Germany and died in California in 1955. But we are suppose to believe everything else she says, right! No one voted for you for Governor, yet you keep listening to the tiny brains of the crazies and signing into law everything that comes into their feeble minds, it only make you look dumb, stupid or racist, or maybe all three.
As for the Tea Bag Party, their phony patriotism is sickening; they are just racists going by another name. We all know you are just itching to put a sheet on their head? Let’s face it the Republicans had eight years to deal with health care, immigration, energy (remember Cheney’s secret meetings with oil companies where loosening regulation and oversight were sealed), climate change and financial oversight and governance and they failed. It appears that the Republican Party is only good at starting wars (two in eight years, with fat contracts to friends of Cheney/Bush) but not at winning wars as seen by the continuing line of body bags that keep coming home. The Republicans party will continue turned inward to their old fashion obstructionist party (and their Confederacy appreciation roots) because they continue to allow a small portions (but very loud portion) of their party of “birthers, baggers and blowhards” to rule their party. I will admit that this fringe is very good at playing “Follow the Leader” by listening to their dullard leaders, Beck, Hedgecock, Hannity, O’Reilly, Rush, Savage, Sarah Bailin, Orly Taitz, Victoria Jackson, Michele Bachmann and the rest of the Blowhards and acting as ill programmed robots (they have already acted against doctors that perform abortions).
The Birthers and the Tea Bag party crowd think they can scare, intimidate and force others to go along with them by comments like “This time we came unarmed”, let me tell you something not all ex-military join the fringe militia crazies who don’t pay taxes and run around with face paint in the parks playing commando, the majority are mature and understand that the world is more complicated and grey than the black and white that these simpleton make it out to be and that my friend is the point. The world is complicated and people like Hamilton, Lincoln, and Roosevelt believed that we should use government a little to increase social mobility, now it’s about dancing around the claim of government is the problem. The sainted Reagan passed the biggest tax increase in American history and as a result federal employment increased, but facts are lost when mired in mysticism and superstition. For a party that gave us Abraham Lincoln, it is tragic that the ranks are filled with too many empty suits and the crazy Birthers who have not learned that the way our courts work is that you get a competent lawyer, verifiable facts and present them to a judge, if the facts are real and not half baked internet lies, then, and only then, do you proceed to trial. The Birthers seem to be having a problem with their so called “Internet facts”. Let’s face it no one will take the Birthers seriously until they win a case, but until then, you will continue to appear dumb, crazy or racist, or maybe all three. I heard that Orly Taitz now wants to investigate the “Republican 2009 Summer of Love” list: Assemblyman, Michael D. Duvall (CA), Senator John Ensign (NV), Senator Paul Stanley (TN), Governor Mark Stanford (SC), Board of Ed Chair, and Kristin Maguire AKA Bridget Keeney (SC), she wants to re-establish a family values party, that is like saying that the Catholic Church cares about the welling being of children in their care, too late for that. Yee Haw!
June 22nd, 2010 at 8:53 am
It is odd that there has been this big spike in right wing idiocy coming out of Arizona though. Texas has a higher background level of crazy and right now Arizona is like a supernova taking the attention. I wonder how long it will last.
Actually it isn’t that strange. Arizona has been moving gradually towards the middle over the last twenty years. The population has doubled in that time and a big part of that spike wasn’t old retirees who tended to be conservative, but a lot of younger families moving from blue states, etc. In 2008 McCain only received 53.4% of the vote here in Arizona, his sixth lowest vote total among the states he won. Now think about that, his home state was one of his least supportive states. Had McCain been from Texas, Florida, etc., he likely would have lost Arizona.
This state has a long history of very conservative, often racist politics and the supporters of those policies aren’t happy that they are consistently losing ground to moderates and liberals (simply termed as liberals in their tirades). Because of how the state legislature is set up conservatives still have a major majority in both houses but, when Napolitano was governor, she vetoed a lot of their stupidity. In fact she set the record for vetoes in the history of the state. You take her away, bring in Brewer who is a wing-nut’s wing-nut, and you see incredibly stupid legislation that was shut down by a reasonable governor make it out of the state house. At the same time you see an increase in non-conservative population as well as an increase in non-white population and the far white err, right is freaking out.
June 22nd, 2010 at 9:16 am
Montana;
“the rest of us will continue to challenged them in a court of law and continue to add cities to our Boycott of your state.”
The rest of your post is just crap derived of opinionated bullsht along with tons of warped disinformation. So we’ll just go with the one example of your idiocy that should suffice in discounting anything else you’ve said.
Thats right morons, go ahead, boycott Arizona.
Go ahead, shut down tourism, commerce and all the trades that pay those that you say you care so much about.
Idiots
June 22nd, 2010 at 9:18 am
Dogmeat Says:
“It is odd that there has been this big spike in right wing idiocy coming out of Arizona though.”
See above post
June 22nd, 2010 at 9:31 am
I like when they call themselves dogmeat before micky gets to them!
June 22nd, 2010 at 9:55 am
These are the kind of minds that unwittingly go after the one thing that actually feeds their needs. We saw this self destruction in many 60s movements as they wanted to tear down the “establishment”. That “establishment” and its evil capitalist ventures is exactly what was paying their ways thru overated campuses and giving them their foodstamps and welfare checks.
These guys like Montana and Dogmeat are the same kind of idiots who are calling for a boycott of BP so that all those in need of compensation will never see it.
June 22nd, 2010 at 2:53 pm
LOL flyingmonkey
June 22nd, 2010 at 9:39 pm
[this web item was recently seen - Hubert]
Government-Approved Illegals !
Speaking of illegals, the government hasn’t built the fence high enough to keep out the un-American criminals who want to take away our freedoms.
Yes, the government hasn’t built the White House fence high enough to keep out the un-American criminals who somehow got into the White House and who are now working hard to take away the religious, social, and economic freedoms of true American patriots!
Here are two slogans that Obama would rather not think about: “Unborn babies should have the right to keep and bear arms – and legs and ears and eyes, etc.!” and “Unborn babies should have the same right to be born alive that abortionists had!”
If Obama should ever happen to Google “Dangerous Radicals of the Religious Right,” do you think he would feel guilty merely walking in the hallowed halls of that House where true Americans walked?
Is it safe to assume that Mecca Wafers are Obama’s favorite candy? And is barack-coli a vegetable or a disease?
(Neither Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi nor any other DemocRAT approved of this message! BTW, for more info on Obama in Washingdumb, Google “Obama Supports Public Depravity” and “Obama Avoids Bible Verses.”)