It had all the high drama of a Nick and Nora Charleston novel. Congressman Bart Stupak (D-MI) and his ‘Gang of 12′ pro-life Democrats, caved in Sunday afternoon and will vote to pass the health care reform bill. An early procedural vote sailed through 230-200 just moments before Stupak made his announcement just after 4pm Eastern. He cited an agreement had been reached whereby President Obama has promised to sign an executive order to ‘correct’ the Senate version of health care reform, concerning Federal funding of abortions.
Naturally, Stupak ignores the reality that every time such executive orders are challenged in the courts of funding for abortion, the court rules against the restrictions. Which is exactly why the ‘Hyde Amendment’ was passed. The Senate version provides a gaping hole to side-step around Hyde and opens the door for Federal funding of abortion, including ‘elective’ abortions.
So there is no point in watching the rest of the process for now. It’s a done deal and will pass. There will be later challenges in the courts and probably more shenanigans as the House and Senate resolve any other legislative differences.
As I have been trying to point out, for as bad as ‘Obamacare’ is, it’s the least of our worries. Frankly, I think it has served has a deflection, a slight of hand illusion to mask the more pressing issues facing our country. Those concerning our monetary and financial systems which are in dire crisis. Health care reform will add to the National Debt, further suppress growth and employment, as well as redefine inalienable rights. So a pox on all of Washington for wasting a critical year! It’s politics as usual while the Financial Junta continues to squeeze us and adds more chains to the shackles about our bodies and souls.
Health care was not in crisis, but our economy is. 80% of Americans like the health care they already have. Meanwhile, about half the country has lost a substantial portion of their equity, either in value of their homes or retirement plans. About 20% have either lost their jobs, remain unemployed or are working part-time at best. The Federal Reserve has been monetizing our Debt, increasing bond purchases from 40% at the beginning of the year to 70% at the beginning of March. All of these are nation-killers and all three continue on with no end in sight. Thanks a bunch, Bart Stupak!
Health Care Reform Bill – Video
March 21st, 2010 at 5:11 pm
YES!
March 21st, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Great work here, keep up the good fight as we have much more fighting to do against these Tyrants in our Government! The cockroaches will be squashed but not soon enough! You have been linked – Conservative Bloggers are Fighting for every Americans Freedom – http://governmentmess.blogspot.com/2010/03/conservative-bloggers-fight-obama-care.html
March 21st, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Great for you “ME”.
Now we can look forward to more babies/fetuses being tossed into dumpsters at tax payers expense.
Many of those taxpayers, a majority of them being pro-life.
I hope you’re happy now
March 21st, 2010 at 6:38 pm
May all yee traders of the free world live forever…. for it just may take that long for you to fully realize the damage to freedom and the American dream you have done with your simple and single most embarrassing moment of your greedy and, Well, All shall see you for what you are. Soon! Your day is coming.
March 21st, 2010 at 7:15 pm
An executive order does not have the power to correct a law. It seems that the guy just got ahold of a lame excuse to cowardly submit to the president’s orders, while trying to save face for betraying the unborn. Shameful.
March 21st, 2010 at 7:23 pm
In the interest of making sure that everyone has no excuse to not know which of those unscrupulous s**t eaters on the hill have just decided to enslave us, here is the roll call for tonights vote:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2010/roll165.xml
March 21st, 2010 at 7:23 pm
Nixon would have voted for this. Make all the sore loser Chucklebuckle motions you want. We will club you like little baby seals in November.
March 21st, 2010 at 7:32 pm
Good luck Tom. better hope this crap pans out or you’re going wish you were a baby seal being clubbed by someone less compassionte than I.
Who owns as variety of clubs. And they are not the ones you sit in a drink lattes
March 21st, 2010 at 7:34 pm
stupak kickback
March 21st, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Agreed Micky. You and I differ on a number of things but not on the principles of combat.
March 21st, 2010 at 8:24 pm
Now we can look forward to more babies/fetuses being tossed into dumpsters at tax payers expense.
Many of those taxpayers, a majority of them being pro-life.
Of course you’re factually wrong about taxpayers money going to fund abortions. I wish it did, and in a moral universe, it would. But it won’t. It is also a matter of fact that my taxes DID pay for an unjust war the country was lied into that resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands.
Regardless, I hope you hide your grandmothers. Now that the law is passed, the gummint death panels are going to harvest your organs. You can also look forward to socialism (or was it facism?), tanks rolling through main street, the “death of freedom”, “armageddon”, and the end of our country as we know it.
Or maybe not.
March 21st, 2010 at 8:28 pm
It’s time!!
March 21st, 2010 at 9:28 pm
This is a watershed in the Obama presidency. The political debate will not be the same after this. This is huge for Obama. This is huge for America.
“Health care was not in crisis?” Pray tell, in what universe are you living? Skyrocketing medical expenses, skyrocketing insurance premiums, the unraveling of employer-provided health care insurance, the long term threat to the nation’s fiscal solvency–all of the problems are well known. Except maybe, if you live under a rock, or watch Fox News and listen to Rush all day long.
So, to say that health care is only some sort of diversion is, of course, completely wrong. And you know it is, too. This is what the Republicans do. LIE. LIE. LIE. LIE. LIE. And hope that the people listening are stupid enough to swallow the lies. The Health Care crisis is a huge threat to America. The current bill should reduce the deficit by over a trillion dollars over the next ten years. That’s what the CBO said. You know, the NON-PARTISAN CBO. This is the biggest reason why it just passed the House, NOT because of anything to do with abortion. Oh, the Democrats made an abortion deal, and that passed the bill. This may be true, but this ignores all the other issues involved, and everything else that has happened over the past few weeks. The reason we got such a huge deficit right now is because of the Republicans’ drug bill, because it wasn’t paid for, and they knew it. This plan is paid for. And the CBO concurs.
To say that the Republicans lost is not really true. There is no public option in the bill, and this is a huge win for the conservatives. The bill is obnoxious to many liberals and progressives. It’s a compromise. But this is the best thing that could have happened for Obama and the Democrats, and the Republicans know it, and that’s why they’ve fought so hard against it. In their heart of hearts, they know that it is a good thing, and so you you, too.
Why don’t you just admit it? Then shut up, please.
March 21st, 2010 at 9:55 pm
It’s happened! The zombie government death squads are at the door! Everyone run! We’re in full-blown communism!!!! Your kids can stay on your insurance plan until they’re 26!!!! It’s the flesh-eating virus of Socialism! You can’t be turned down for pre-existing conditions! Oh Noes!!! They want to eat our brains! When you leave a job you don’t have to worry about losing your coverage!! AGHGHGHGHGHH!! The walls are bleeding! The end is neigh!!! No more medicare drug donut hole!!! They’ve come to eat our seniors! Over thirty million people will have health insurance!! That means those of us who are currently insured won’t have to pay for their last-minute emergency room visits!!! The horror! The horror! And worst of all, Rush Limbaugh promised he’d leave the country if this passed!!! How will we go on without him telling us what to think?!!! Our country is dead! Freedom no longer exists! We’re all slaves to facism! It’s the end of everything! We’ve lost our country and our skin is melting!!!
March 21st, 2010 at 10:14 pm
ME:
“Agreed Micky. You and I differ on a number of things but not on the principles of combat.”
In combat there are no “priniciples” other than to destroy the enemy.
Yeah, weve drawn up all these ridicloue rules on engagemnt. Beating a baby seal over the is hardly considered combat in any dictionary you’ll find.
But theres poltical combat going on when it comes to the protection those with hearts beating that still have yet to born.
A baby seal by all rules of nature at one point is a meal for man.
Unles you’re some kind of cannibal.
March 21st, 2010 at 10:29 pm
ME.
Your humorous mockery aside you fail to see the impact all the hidden sht in this bill is going to have on us at some point.
Obama being a socialist/communist is well documeted by simply taking an honest look to his family, experience and relations.
Those kids riding that insurance plan til they’re 26 are going to have it paid for by someone.
The answer to that is being borrowed from China.
One day they’re going to want to collect that debt.
Maybe then we can start worrying about the ” Zombie death squads “?
March 21st, 2010 at 10:58 pm
Those kids riding that insurance plan til they’re 26 are going to have it paid for by someone.
They’re going to have it paid for by their parents. Since they’re young and low risk, it won’t cost very much, but it will protect that tiny minority that does have some freak disease or accident. And that’s good for us, because otherwise they’d have gone to the hospital w/o insurance, and guess who WOULD have paid for it then? That’s right, you and me.
The answer to that is being borrowed from China.
Well, since the insurance in question is being run for-profit private companies and is paid for by individual citizens, the government doesn’t pay for anything.
But if your concern is China, you might be more concerned with the anti-stimulative effect of their holding their currency down to artificial levels. Keeping their Renminbi low is an effective tax on our exports and kills American jobs as it makes their exports artificially cheap.
The Chinese are invested in us and our success, and our debt in relation to our GDP is not especially high when compared to other nations, or even our history.
So I’m not too worried about the zombies from China either.
As far as Obama being a socialist/communist. Well, I guess your worst fears have come true, haven’t they? Now the death panels will start to purge our elders from society. Keep your guns and bibles close at hand- the jackbooted zombie health care hoards from the government takeover will be kicking in doors soon and marching you all off to the camps!!!
Yeah.
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:58 am
@ Klo, #12
The ONLY crisis we currently have in health care right now, or at least before Sunday evening, was the government’s programs, Medicare and Medicaid. Both were going bankrupt then, and both will now go bankrupt even sooner thanks to Obama, Pelosi and Reid. Oh, and let us NEVER forget Bart Stupak!
As for those big, mean insurance companies, guess what? Last night’s bill will only make them bigger and meaner. 5-10 years from now, we will go from 1400 companies down to the current 5-6 mega-insurers, and maybe a couple dozen dwarf insurers. And that’s a BIG MAYBE. Just as TARP made the mega-banks bigger, so to will this happen to the insurance industry.
Oh, and BTW, how nice Big Pharma got a pass and the cost of drugs will skyrocket. I wonder if grandma and grandpa will trip out like that cat in the Friskies commercials when they are forced to eat pet food so they can afford their meds? I hope they hallucinate, because it will be the one moment of joy they experience before they’re turned into Soylent Green.
March 22nd, 2010 at 5:01 am
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March 22nd, 2010 at 5:02 am
@ME #16
In case you haven’t heard, the Chinese have begun to dump their U.S. T-bonds. They spent about $90 Billion of them to buy a nice pile of gold from the IMF a couple weeks ago.
March 22nd, 2010 at 5:03 am
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March 22nd, 2010 at 5:18 am
Years down the line the libs with be moaning and groaning about the state of national health care. I hope I live long enough to see it.
March 22nd, 2010 at 5:25 am
“Oh, and let us NEVER forget Bart Stupak!”
Andy, I just heard audio from a Bart Stupak town hall meeting earlier this summer. He never intended to vote no. He stated at the meeting that if the abortion language didn’t make it into the bill he would probably still vote for it.
He’s been grandstanding all along.
March 22nd, 2010 at 6:13 am
“…grant announced Friday for three airports in Stupak’s district was probably just a coincidence… At a mere $729,406…”
Stupak was for the bill all along
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/03/stupak_was_for_the_bill_all_al.html
March 22nd, 2010 at 7:12 am
@flyingmonkey
I hope Bart Stupak enjoys it while he can. Look for him to be unemployed come November!