The newspaper liberals love to love, the New York Times, just slammed Al Gore and his pack of extremist environmentalists for grossly exaggerating the facts of global warming.
Al Gore is Messing with Mother Nature
.. part of [Al Gore's] scientific audience is uneasy. In talks, articles and blog entries that have appeared since his film and accompanying book came out last year, these scientists argue that some of Mr. Gore’s central points are exaggerated and erroneous. They are alarmed, some say, at what they call his alarmism.
We’ve always known that Al Gore is a serial exaggerator. Say, remind me who invented the internet?
“I don’t want to pick on Al Gore,� Don J. Easterbrook, an emeritus professor of geology at Western Washington University, told hundreds of experts at the annual meeting of the Geological Society of America. “But there are a lot of inaccuracies in the statements we are seeing, and we have to temper that with real data.�
Since when was the urban myth of global warming ever interested in real data?
Kevin Vranes, a climatologist at the Center for Science and Technology Policy Research at the University of Colorado, said he sensed a growing backlash against exaggeration. While praising Mr. Gore for “getting the message out,� Dr. Vranes questioned whether his presentations were “overselling our certainty about knowing the future.�
You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time. The legend of Global Warming is unraveling before our eyes.
Read the entire slam here
[tags]al gore, global+warming, myth[/tags]
March 13th, 2007 at 1:42 pm
So - why is Pravda…oops, I mean the NYT running this? There’s gotta be a reason [other than the actual truth being fit to print]. So how come? Anyone?
March 13th, 2007 at 3:56 pm
@McCain
Nice quotes taken out of context.
The article essentially says Gore is right - but there are some disagreements about the details.
“On balance, he did quite well — a credible and entertaining job on a difficult subject,� Dr. Oppenheimer said. “For that, he deserves a lot of credit. If you rake him over the coals, you’re going to find people who disagree. But in terms of the big picture, he got it right.�
So STFU and RTFM
March 13th, 2007 at 4:18 pm
Actually no, you just lied by selectively quoting a discredited advisor to Gore’s fictional movie. He who only appears at the very end of the article to provide some balance. The article does not essentially say Gore is correct. The article essentially says Gore is making up facts and that alarms serious scientists. That is the very reason for the article. So why don’t you JGFYT.
March 14th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
“Since when was the urban myth of global warming ever interested in real data?”
Urban Myth? That’s really stretching it. The sooner you realize that the ones trying to discredit the scientific findings have their own motivations, mostly to obtain funding from oil companies, perhaps you will see the forest for the trees. If you’re open-minded enough to read the research done by organizations such as NOAA, NASA, IPCC, World Meteorological Organization, Goddard Institute for Space Studies, National Drought Mitigation Center, The U.S. National Academies of Science, Engineering and Medicine, etc., you will at least have a better understanding of the science and perhaps hesitate to call it “urban myth”. The facts are there if you’re willing to look for them.
Links to the research and articles can be found here.
Oh, BTW, you’re spinning the NY Times article to make it sound like Gore got it wrong. When, to the contrary, the people interviewed for the story agree that he got it “mostly right”. They’re concerned with a lack of nuance to some of the information and that some people might see it as “alarmist”.
The fact is, global warming is a reality and humans are mostly responsible for it.
Before you respond to this post with some inane unfounded poke at “liberal activists” or some other nonsense, do everybody a favor and do a little research first.
March 14th, 2007 at 2:44 pm
If you’re going to list this article from the NY Times, you might want to read these others as well:
Renewing a Call to Act Against Climate Change
Evangelical Group Rebuffs Critics on Right
Top Scientists Warn of Water Shortages and Disease Linked to Global Warming
March 14th, 2007 at 2:50 pm
Oh I have already. The article lampoons your lazy idea that the only people who take the side of real science are “mostly to obtain funding from oil companies.” There is a good quote in the article about that caca.
What you are engaging in is a faith-based crusade that isn’t based on science. I deal with this mentality all the time in my environmental organizations. There is a sentiment that even if global warming is a bunch of nonsense (which it is), other good things can come from the scare, such as habitat preservation and cleaner air and water. You are being intentionally lied to in an effort to further the interests of environmental groups, some with excellent hearts but I’m afraid the end don’t justify the means. So wake up buddy (WUB). Those who suggest that global warming is caused by humans are either complete dumbasses or engaged in Machiavellian lies.
March 14th, 2007 at 7:11 pm
Screw the Nobel Peace prize for Al. He should get the Nobel Prize in Medicine or Physiology since saving the planet from its certain doom will save lives. While Al may be a smart guy, turning science to politics as he has done sets the alarm on my BS detector.
Having done much laboratory work, all I can say is that science is a bitch. There are always variables that you may not account for or consider to not be of importance that come back to bite you. And that was under controlled conditions in a laboratory. With global warming, there are probably an infinite number of variables to consider and data that range from thousands of year back (ice core samples) to those that are only recently measured (albedo, solar radiation, etc.) Any scientist (or politician) saying they know for sure what is happening with the earth certainly deserves some amount of skepticism.
To just poo-poo different ideas and theories is bad science and typical left wing politics which gave rise to Lysenkoism in the former Soviet Union.
March 14th, 2007 at 8:36 pm
Your NY Times article that “lampoons my lazy idea” is debunked here:
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/03/broad-irony/
You’re calling NOAA, NASA, etc. “dumbasses” that are “engaged in Machiavellian lies”? Sheesh, talk about calling the kettle black! The ones with the agenda ARE funded by the oil companies; they admitted it–
“But interests will always find a way to be heard, lobbyists say. One is through think tanks. The Competitive Enterprise Institute, which widely publicizes its belief that the earth is not warming cataclysmically because of the burning of coal and oil, says Exxon Mobil Corp. is a “major donor” largely as a result of its effort to push that position.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/18/AR2006031801305_pf.html
Rather than name calling, why don’t you just try to keep an open mind? It sounds like you’ll accept anything pro your view and denigrate anything that contradicts your view with a passion; yet without any validation.
March 14th, 2007 at 10:32 pm
“Rather than name calling, why don’t you just try to keep an open mind? It sounds like you’ll accept anything pro your view and denigrate anything that contradicts your view with a passion”
So, STFU and RTFM simply mean “Suggestions To Follow Up” and “Reasoning To Follow Main body”, right?
March 15th, 2007 at 3:15 am
Alright I’ve stayed out of this long enough. RockLobster - you started the name calling first, and it is not the standard that we hold here at rightpundits. Say any view you want, but “STFU” and the like will not be tolerated in the future. Unless you want your future posts to be edited, keep it clean.
Also, I have found that liberals have two mantras: “Conservatives are idiots” and “We hate Bush.” It is amazing how the substance of the argument quickly evolves into name-calling. If you have such a good point - then make it - name calling I would hope, got left behind on your kindegarten playground.
As for global warming - I am also a scientist - never took a dime form oil companies - and I also think the whole global warming thing is overblown. KungPow gave many of the reasons. Good to see another scientist on here!
Recently Russian scientists found out that Mars is also warming - I surmised on a previous post that perhaps Gore’s jets were causing it when he travels there to speak to the Martians. More likely (and perhpas more troubling), there appears to be some warming from the sun.
This is clearly an environmental agenda. If we want clean air and water, as McCain states, then say it. Don’t couch good intentions behind bad science and technobabble.
Rock - thanks for stopping by - your views are always welcome - just keep the discussion on the higher intelligent level of which I know you are capable.
March 15th, 2007 at 3:29 am
By the way - the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (listed in your now-unavailable NYT article) webpage is here: http://www.ipcc.ch/about/about.htm
This committee is linked to the UN and was formed to study global warming. Guess what? It is publishing papers on Global Warming! Hardly an unbiased group. Should they be studying this - sure, why not?
And the “top scientists” on this panel hail from scientific heavy weight countries such as Sierra Leone, Saudi Arabia, Kenya and Morocco.
March 18th, 2007 at 12:32 pm
Conservatives hate the New York Times, but love to quote from it whenever it reports something that they like (which happens all the time). They never quote from conservative papers (like the New York Post) because such papers have no journalism to offer.
March 24th, 2007 at 3:00 pm
Just had to say something. As for the “name calling” this whole thing started with name calling. I heard terms from the right responders like “dumbass” liars, NY Times as Pravda,serial exaggerator etc way before Rocklobster did if that in fact is what he did with the letters, unless these are commonly used for particular comments,I interpretated them differently. The continued lie from the right is Al Gore claiming he invented the internet. I say this is a lie because anyone who writes on this subject has to know the truth by now but chooses to continue the “funny” misquote made by Rush Limbaugh and carried on by pundits from the right all over. Al Gore never said that. He CLEARLY stated he “led the initiative for the internet in Congress”. The same goes for Love Story which was written about Al Gore and his girl friend prior to his marriage. Gore never said it was about him and Tipper. All I ask is the right, if so sure of being right (correct) refrain from misleading info, statements etc. Global warming is something we as decent people must concern ourselves with. The oil companies are behind the myth promotions. Anyone who talks on this should do some real open minded research and be honest about what they say and read. Oil has the money and power to pull of a great deal in this country with an administration full of oil cronies .Sad situation we are in today with all the mean spirited , hate filled commentary from the right about people and their personal lives. Thank God, the last election proves people are tiring of the kind of talk Santorum and Allan were so adept at. The war was not the only reason far right conservatives with power LOST.
RW/gbayoo
August 19th, 2007 at 5:32 am
global warming is becoming such a obvious problem that someone somewhere other than Al Gore needs to step up to help drive the bus!