Let’s see, a Christian says homosexuality is a sin and that person should change their lifestyle…..bad. A Vanderbilt Islamic Professor, homosexuality punishable by death…..okay. Something isn’t right here. But then again nobody ever accused the left of making a whole lot of sense when it comes to, well, anything. Vanderbilt Islamic Professor Awadh A. Binhazim said in a forum on gays in the military that under Islamic law, homosexuality is punishable by death.
Devin Saucier, a Vanderbilt student who is over Youth for Western Civilization, did what mainstream journalists refuse to do….ask the hard questions. Saucier put Binhazim in a precarious position by asking him the question, “Under Islamic Law, is it punishable by death if you are a homosexual?” The professor’s answer after beating around the bush was, “Yes, it is punishable by death.” Watch the video below.
Here’s a rhetorical question for you. If a white Christian professor were asked a question like, “Is homosexuality a sin?” And he gave an answer like, “Yes.” What do you suppose would happen to that professor? Here’s your answer, he would be out on his tale as quick as the video went viral. You’d hear all the usual arguments about Christianity being a faith full of intolerance and hate.
The good professor spends most of the video trying to weasel his way around the question. He first says that he doesn’t have the choice of which teachings of Islam he will accept or reject. Does that mean that if you’re a Muslim you’re a mindless robot who is unable to determine good from bad? Right from wrong?
Vanderbilt University issued a statement saying that they were a tolerant, politically correct, non-discriminatory school and that Professor Binhazim was not an actual employee of the school. Vanderbilt is backpedaling pretty fast on this one.
You’re probably not going to see many stories in the mainstream press about the Vanderbilt Islamic Professor.
Homosexuality punishable by death is just one of those inconvenient truths that the press refuses to cover about their new favorite religion. If they do decide to cover the story it will undoubtedly be to try and expose Devin Saucier as some sort of fraud who trapped the professor into giving his shocking answer.
January 29th, 2010 at 6:38 am
Islam = death to homosexuals.
Jesus = a sin that you can repent from and change the very course of your destiny.
Hmm..let’s see…Jesus, or Islamic death. Jesus, or Islamic death. Jesus, or Islamic death.
And it is Christianity that is so hateful according to the ACLU and other misguided and deceived liberals. Yeesh.
January 29th, 2010 at 6:46 am
I think you guys really overstate the tolerance our mainstream culture has for this stuff when it comes from the Muslim community. Radical Muslims are very often criticized by the center, the moderate left, and the hard left. I defy you to find a single piece in a mainstream paper defending this Binhazim guy’s stance.
Certainly in Europe, there have been some troubling developments concerning the suppression of speech critical of Islam. That is a huge problem. Luckily over here, despite all of our problems, we’re still free to criticize violent, backward, sexist, racist cultures. And we do.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:22 am
Heres a take from some shmuck moonbat I discused this wyth the other day. Theres no doubt theleft defends these backa$$wards thological dictatorships.
“The only difference between today’s Christians and today’s Muslims is the state of the world around them. Theologically, there’s very little difference between the two. Never was. The two sides simply invent differences to make trouble with each other for love of money and power. Fundamentally, all monotheism is basically the same. Christianity is just good, and as stupid and vulgar, as Islam.”
If you want see more of an example from a lefty who considers himself a moderate heres the link
I cant get the damn thing to copy, just googlr “Meeting Ralph Peters”, it’ll take you to The Tygrr Express, its on the pundits blog roll
January 29th, 2010 at 8:35 am
That commenter’s arguement sounds more like a criticism of Christianity than a defense of Islam to me. No problem there.
I admittedly didn’t read the whole Peters piece, but from what I can tell it consisted of an author calling Peters a “hero” of his, and Peters saying stuff like this:
“It is a fanatical religion. Where are the Christian suicide bombers? Where are the Chasidic suicide bombers? They would dance around first and then pull the trigger.”
Again, this doesn’t really sound like a defense of Islam. He rightly identifies it as a “fanatical religion”.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Donald B:
Where in the Bible does Jesus mention homosexuals?
January 29th, 2010 at 9:37 am
men laying with other men was the definition of homosexuality in the bible
January 29th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Rhay.
The lib commentor goes on to justify the actsvof todays Islam by giving reason to its suroundings.
BS. Christiane are subjected to the same conditions today and I cant remember the last time a Christian got his head whacked off for converting to Islam, or stoned to death by any Christian for being gay.
Christianity has moved on and adapted to the times.
Islam has prrety much remained the backa$$WARDS organization it was 1400 years ago which is why wee see them being so frustrated with everything western going on around them.
Besides laptops, Adidas, and cell phones.
January 29th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Well, Micky, there are some other descriptions of it, but I know you can use google to find them just as easy as I can. I don’t recall Jesus condemning homosexuality, (or even “men laying with men” ) specifically. Let me know if you find that somewhere.
January 29th, 2010 at 10:55 am
Trying to defend murderous freaks just because they happen to be Muslim is messed up, I agree. I just think it’s a far less common occurrence than the author of this piece makes it out to be.
Also, just because I’m fine with criticism of Islam doesn’t mean criticism of Christianity bothers me in the least. Bring ‘em all crashing to the ground; none of them come close to an adequate explanation of reality.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:19 am
Nebuer, Jesus did not condemn killing helpless widowers with rifles… Does that mean it is OK? Dude!!! Don’t commit intellectual suicide!
On the other hand, I can mention a couple of atheist countries where being a Christian is punishable by death… but I guess that the only politically correct action left in America is bashing Jesus-freaks, so I will have to shut up.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:19 am
Rhayader it isn’t so much what the MSM SAYS about this guy, it’s what they DON’T SAY. You’re right, you probably won’t find a lot of defenders of this guy in the MSM. But then again you probably won’t find this story reported on very much at all.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:27 am
‘none of them come close to an adequate explanation of reality’… Now there is a boasting!!!
Let’s see:
1)Where we come from?
Christianity: God made us.
Humanism: ??? We know that every consequence has a cause, but we would rather believe that the universe came to be by itself without a Causator.
2)Where are we going?
Christianity: to eternity for salvation or condemnation depending of who is Christ to you.
Atheists: not farther than 6 feet underground, no matter that our conscience craves for trascendence.
3)What is my purpose here?
Christians: To give glory to God by how I live.
Atheists: No purpose, except maybe preservation of the species, but I don’t like it when a specimen is stronger than me.
I think that Christianity is very consistent with the trascendental questions in life, and also with what we can observe outside and inside of ourselves… It’s atheism what comes short, very short indeed. Go and keep having faith in… nothingness.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Eh, you’re going to need to show me more than a lack of coverage for me to buy your hypothesis. A paper could ignore a story for dozens of reasons, the most prominent of which is that readers just might not find it all that interesting.
It’s not as if this is a major figure, or even a major announcement. Nobody knows who Awadh A. Binhazim is, and people already knew that Muslims consider homosexuality a sin punishable by death. Simply put, there’s no news here. I don’t see how sparse coverage is proof of anything beyond the unremarkable nature of the story.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:35 am
LRivera, your analogy is crap. The text makes it clear what Jesus’ stance on murder was. It says nothing about his view on homosexuality. If you are comparing being a homosexual with killing someone, then I wouldn’t call you a Jesus freak. I would simply call you a freak.
But, please, DO mention these “atheist countries” where being a Christian is punishable by death…I made no mention of that, but I am intrigued.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:35 am
@L Rivera: Your post really displays a firm grasp on non-theistic metaphysics and philosophy. I’ll keep in mind that “I don’t like it when a specimen is stronger than me”, haha.
There are in fact non-theistic metaphysical constructs my friend. Read Robert Pirsig and come back when you know what you’re talking about.
January 29th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Nebuer, what about this as Jesus vision for marriage:
“and [Jesus] said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.”
Now go and spin that Jesus did not really mean that a marriage was between a man and a woman.
About atheist countries that persecute and kill Christians, you can easily google it but here you have a couple of names: China and North Korea.
January 29th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
By the way, that’s Matthew 19:5-6.
January 29th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Rhayader: of course I can’t make an example that exhaust all the possible flavors of non-theistic metaphysical constructs, but I am afraid that even after reading Pirsig I might not yet know what you think I am talking about.
January 29th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Hey fair enough – I actually wouldn’t expect you to read Pirsig, although it would greatly enrich anyone who wanted to. My only point was that you shouldn’t pretend to speak for a group of philosophies about which you know next to nothing.
January 29th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Here ya go Nueber
“Anyone who has heard of the cities of “Sodom and Gommorah” knows that they were notorious hotbeds of homosexuality. Gen 19:5-8 “and they called to Lot and said to him, ‘Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them.’ But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, and said, ‘Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly.’” The Greek word in the New Testament for homosexuality is literally “a sodomite”. Jock is trying to redefine what the term “sodomite” means. (A term that has unchanged in 5000 years, even today- “sodomy”) Apart from the fact the city was clearly destroyed by God because of homosexuality in the narrative of Gen 19, even the New Testament clearly states exactly the same thing in Jude 7 “Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example, in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.” Any sinner should always remember that the God who commands us to love our neighbour is the same God who will cast any and all unrepentant sinners into the “eternal fire”. Here are more Bible quotes, Lev 18:22-23 “You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.” Lev 20:13 “If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death.” 1 Cor 6:9 “Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals” 1 Tim 1:9-10 “realizing the fact that (civil) law is not made for a righteous man, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers”
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“JESUS TAUGHT WHAT WAS RIGHT ABOUT HUMAN SEXUALITY
“And He answered and said, ‘Have you not read, that He who
created them from the beginning made them male and female, and
said, ‘For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother,
and shall cleave to his wife; and the two shall become one
flesh?” (MATTHEW 19:4-5). This is Jesus’ viewpoint about it in
His own words. God’s design for human sexual fulfillment is
within the bounds of marriage between a man and a woman. This is
His only plan for this aspect of our human relationships. There
simply is not any other combination that meets with the Lord’s
approval!
January 29th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
For good measure…
JESUS REAFFIRMED THE LAW OF MOSES TO BE FROM GOD
“For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’ and ‘He who
speaks evil of father and mother, let him be put to death”.
(MATTHEW 15:4). Here, Jesus quotes from the writings of Moses
(EXODUS 20:12; 21:17). But though Moses was the writer, Jesus
affirms that the Law was God’s! He further states that they have
broken God’s Law when they violate the commandments given through
Moses (MATTHEW 15:6)! Over and over again Jesus affirms that the
commandments of the Old Law were given by God. And what did God
say, and Jesus affirm by acknowledging that Mosaical Law was
indeed God’s word, about homosexuality? He said, “If there is a
man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of
them have committed a detestable act…” (LEVITICUS 20:13). We do
not have recorded every word Jesus ever spoke, but what we do
have shows that everything He spoke was in harmony with the Law,
including the quoted verse above.
January 29th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
[...] Vanderbilt Islamic Professor: Homosexuality Punishable By Death … [...]
January 30th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
No person is born homosexual, just like no one is born a thief, a liar or murderer. People acquire these evil habits due to a lack of proper guidance and education.
There are many reasons why it is forbidden in Islam. Homosexuality is dangerous for the health of the individuals and for the society. It is a main cause of one of the most harmful and fatal diseases. It is disgraceful for both men and women. It degrades a person. Islam teaches that men should be men and women should be women. Homosexuality deprives a man of his manhood and a woman of her womanhood. It is the most un-natural way of life. Homosexuality leads to the destruction of family life.
Please note that there is a difference to actually being involved in a homosexual act -which is a sin – from having sexual feelings that you try to control, that you don’t express in public, which is not sinful if you try to control them. If medical or psychological counseling helps, then get it.
What is sinful in homosexuality is the actual sexual act between the couple of a similar sex. if you transform your desires into a struggle and a challenge to overcome it and not physically commit it, you will get the reward for it.
Remember, there is in this world many compulsive gamblers, alcoholics, adulterers, thieves, but many of them control it and refrain from doing it. The same thing with homosexuality.
This issue might actually turn out to be a good publicity in a way. More eyes will be opened, people will get curious, and try to seek the truth independently by themselves without being influenced by others. Have you ever thought that the more you attack, the more it grows? This is something you will never understand until you sincerely seek the truth. May God guide us all
January 30th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Matt.
You’re quite possibly the most ignorant person I’ve met since I heard of the Westboro Baptists
” there is in this world many compulsive gamblers, alcoholics, adulterers, thieves, but many of them control it and refrain from doing it. The same thing with homosexuality.”
I,ve worked with addicts and alcoholics for decades now.
Its a compulsive defect/condition of the mind no different than any physical or organic ailment.
No one chooses to be an addict anymore than they choose to be gay. I’m not saying homosexuality is a disease, dont go there, but it is certainly not a choice anyone has any control over anymore than someone having imperfect vision.
Upon puberty most kids will be of the impression that theirdesires are supposed to be od a certain nature and cant understand for the life of them why their attractions arent fitting thr status quo. No matter how many Playboys dad leaces laying aound you’re not going to change the hormonol make up someone is born with.
I’m no pro gay activist by any means at all, dont favor gay marriage and despise the assertions they deserve special rights.
But you sir are a complete buffoon
January 30th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Its forbidden in Islam I suspect because their autocratic theology dictates you dont know whats under the burkha before its too late. Having sex in Islam is such a rare commodity the
The Imams knew ahead of time that because of their insane dictates men would start getting lonlier sooner than they could stand. Sheep, goats, camels, not so much.
Step ladders are big business in the middle east