UPDATE: 1/22/2010
Here’s a story sure to spark a debate here at Right Pundits. Secret ‘Jesus’ codes are being inscribed on Military weaponry, high powered rifle sights to be exact. And of course the anti-Christian groups are up in arms over the so called “Jesus rifles.” I swear I love the term “Jesus rifles,” if it wasn’t bad enough for some radical Muslim extremist to meet Allah at the hand of one of our Military’s finest, think about their panties being in a wad over “Jesus rifles” doing the deed.
The company making the scopes, Trijicon, says that yes indeed they are putting secret Jesus codes on the scopes at the end of the serial numbers. In actuality the codes aren’t secret; they’re there for everyone to see as well as not being denied by the maker of the scopes. They say it was a tradition started by the company’s founder who passed away in 2003. He [Glyn Bindon] was a devout Christian.
A couple of the secret Jesus codes being inscribed on the rifle sights are John 8:12 and 2 Corinthians 4:6. Both scriptures give reference to Jesus Christ being the “Light of the World, and Light that shines in our hearts to reveal Himself through Jesus Christ.
Military rules say that there is to be no proselytizing in Afghanistan or Iraq; you know it would be too politically incorrect to allow young men who might not live to see 25 the opportunity to express their faith in Christ like the enemy is able to freely express theirs. But I just don’t see the “Jesus rifles” as proselytizing. It’s not like they’re giving the rifle scopes out to people outside of the Military hoping to convert people to Christianity.
Simply put, the company which makes the scope has a deep seeded faith and wish to display that faith on their product. It just happens that the product has been contracted to our Military who are using that product on the field of battle against an enemy who despises all faiths except for their own.
One Air Force official who is a spokesman for Central Command says that the secret Jesus code scopes or “Jesus rifles” are not unlike our money. He said we’re not going to stop using our money simply because it has “In God We Trust” on it. Wow, a little common sense form Central Command. As long as the rifle scopes are meeting the needs of the Military, they’ll continue to be used whether anti-Christian groups or politically correct politicians like it or not. Listen to Maddow wax ridiculously about how Trijicon is spawning anti-American propaganda and spurring Al Qaeda recruiting with the “Jesus rifles.” Absolutely priceless.
UPDATE 1/22/2010: Score one for political correctness. The manufacturer of the scopes, Trijicon, has decided to stop stamping the bible verses on the scopes.
They are also going to supply modification kits to remove bible verses from scopes already in use by the military.
January 19th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
If Obama brings our troops home (like he promised) the problem would be solved…
January 19th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
The funny thing is that Trijicon makes night sights, which glow in the dark. All of the references refer to “light in the darkness” or some variation on that theme. It seems to go along pretty closely with what the company is doing.
January 19th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
So, anyone who looks at the gun sight is going to immediately see the model and say, “That’s a Bible verse!” Give me a break. The only ones who are putting our troops in more danger, if that is the result, are the morons turning this into news and broadcasting it around the world. I don’t think a Muslim news group was the first to break this story, but I’m sure they’ll pick it up now.
January 19th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
The military’s General Order #1 specifically prohibits religious prosletizing by U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. The imprinting or embossing of specific new testament verse numbers on U.S. made weapons is a clear violation of that order.
The point is not whether, as SoCalGuy21 says, “anyone who looks at the gun sight is going to immediately see the model and say, ‘That’s a Bible verse!’ ” Rather, the point is, the presence of Christian bible verses on U.S. weapons says or stronlgy implies that the U.S. Army and Marines are carrying out a mission in the name of Jesus Christ. The fact is they are not.
Responsibility for the Muslim world’s reaction to this does not fall on those who reported it, but solely on the arrogant manufacturer who put the verses on the weapons in the first place.
January 20th, 2010 at 12:12 am
With respect,
God is not in a gun, He is in your heart. To write God’s word on a sinner’s tool used to do sinful things and not an instrument of learning, which at least bears silent witness without being for or against, is shameful. It presumes the Lord favors war, and not men, tools, and not the actions done with them. Every one of these accursed weapons should be dismantled posthaste… while I do not advocate blacking out the word of God, even on such a terrible surface, they should not be bent to such a terrible purpose. Give our men and women at war Bibles so that God can deliver them from the Hell that they live in… but do not suggest they do holy work. It is a sad day when one of God’s children die, no matter how far they might have strayed, and that is what these weapons accomplish.
Virtue is more than necessity.
“And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.”
May God save all of His wayward children.
January 20th, 2010 at 5:54 am
Folks you’re missing the point. #1, Whether the company makes hunting rifle scopes or scopes that HAPPEN to be on a military rifle, they inscribe them with a REFERENCE to the verse. It is not implied (in any story I’ve read or heard about it) that they are wielding the sword of the Almighty in doing his bidding against the unclean. It’s a few letters stamped into a piece of metal. What about the BILLIONS of US dollars that have gone to the God forsaken place? They all had a reference to God didn’t they? Didn’t they?? To imply that we are somehow stoking the muslim fires against us because of these stamped letters is insane! While I agree with the NOTION that MacArtair invokes in his/her post that we should be handing out Bibles, imagine how that would tick off the muslims over there. For my tax-dollars, I for one am thankful that the scopes are put to use “over there” and we don’t see the same door-to-door fighting on our soil HERE! Think about it, we’re at war with these psychotic killers who think not one whit of blowing up their own children if it accomplishes what they perceive their religion to teach. How much more then shall we fight them? I think it’s time we beat our plowshares into swords and end the bloodshed. We can no longer hold back and cost more and more lives. Unconditional war is unfortunately the only way to bring ultimate peace when fighting an enemy who sees death as his reward. Take out the clerics and the head is cut off of the viper. Then we can go about the business of actually helping the people with their lives. Not to “Americanize” them, but to help their children and our children know a world without such things as war and suicide vests and how a trip to the market is a walk through a war-zone.
January 20th, 2010 at 8:14 am
I honestly couldn’t care less about what these soldiers want on their rifles, or what the manufacturer puts on them. It’s not even worth worrying about.
This article bugs me quite a bit though. First there’s the implication that people who don’t want to see the religious right overtake our government are “anti-Christian”, which is laughable. Keeping religion out of government is constitutional, not anti-religion.
Then immediately afterward you imply that these “anti-Christian groups” somehow value the life of a radical Muslim over that of a radical Christian. If you paid any attention to the modern-day atheism movement, you’d know that radical Islam is far and away the most oft-targeted example of the pernicious influence of religion. Compared to that, atheists consider US heartland Christianism to be sort of a silly diversion.
January 20th, 2010 at 8:42 am
In addition a scribe should come with each gun so as to be able to carve another notch after killing each radical shmuck preferably saying “halleluja motherfckr”.
January 20th, 2010 at 10:58 am
To go along with these scopes, the military ought to get the “word” out all around Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq, wherever our troops are fighting radical Muslim and Al Quida terrorists, that our troops have dipped all of their bullets in pork remains and blood, let them dry, the then loaded them in the magazines.
The Muslims will go nuts and hopefully pull out of the places where US troops could shoot them. Why? They can’t go to their heaven if they’ve consumed pork or even have been tainted with it!
January 20th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
“If Obama brings our troops home (like he promised) the problem would be solved…”
Yeah right.
Do you honestly believe that ours and everyone elses problems with radical Islam would be solved by bringing troops home ?
Good God, everytime I think I’ve heard the dumbest thing ever…
January 20th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Macartair.
Get freeking clue.
By your logic the forces that protect innocent lives from evil, police, our military, are all sinners ?
Moron.
January 20th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
[...] Shannon Bell: I swear I love the term “Jesus rifles,” if it wasn’t bad enough for some radical Muslim extremist to meet Allah at the hand of one of our Military’s finest, think about their panties being in a wad over “Jesus rifles” doing the deed. [...]
January 20th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
#9 Dahk – That’s CLASSIC and pure simplicity! I love it! “Bacon wrapped ballistics”! After what our troops have had to endure (let alone our citizens) at the hands of these psychos – let’s make them squirm a little! I know, let’s grease our artillery with pork fat (aka LARD) so that each explosive round distributes that hickory smoked goodness we Southerners love and the muslims fear! Maybe we should even have an adaptation of this mentality at our check points, forget the bomb sniffing dogs, let’s use terrorist sniffing HOGS! I say “root out the evil” should be the new battle cry with a cigar-chompin’ pig as our mascot. I simply LOVE it!!!!
January 20th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
I have, from the corporate stratosphere, discovered that the magnificent ACOG sight will be renamed the Model J3-16 and will no longer display the inappropriate Bible verse designation. Hold ‘em and squeeze ‘em.
January 21st, 2010 at 8:09 am
American Crusaders use “Jesus Rifles” to hunt down and exterminate those Muslim heathens. How appropriate.
January 21st, 2010 at 8:57 am
Bullets dipped in pork blood ?
I like that but I also want to get a laugh out of these shmucks.
I suggest we finally decide to fund “The Love Bomb”
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,281217,00.html
“The Air Force on Tuesday confirmed a report that in 1994 a military researcher requested $7.5 million to develop a non-lethal “love bomb” that would chemically alter the state of mind of enemy troops and make them want to have sex with each other rather than fight.”
“As part of the military’s goal of developing non-lethal weapons, the proposal suggested, “One distasteful but completely non-lethal example would be strong aphrodisiacs, especially if the chemical also caused homosexual behavior.”
After all these morons start bending each over thats when we can bust out the enscribed scopes and pork clad bullets. Take photos of the dead brothers “united” and make huge murals out of them pasting them up all over their country.
Is there anywhere in the Koran that says these 73 virgins are women ?
January 21st, 2010 at 10:01 am
To Mr. Big Orange, I think that you are missing the point. Whether or not Americans are outraged by this is besides the point. As a Christian, I am outraged by any reference to Jesus on an instrument of death. Jesus advised us all to love our enemies and to turn the other cheek. To have such references on rifle sights is sacriligous and only makes Christians look more hypocritical to the rest of the world.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:17 am
Hah, that “Love Bomb” stuff sounds very similar to some of the research performed by the military on LSD back in the day. They thought it had a great potential for breaking down the enemy’s will to fight. Actually sorta makes sense.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:27 am
“Jesus advised us all to love our enemies and to turn the other cheek.”
Yeah, the last time I tried that I got stabbed 8 inches deep in my a$$ with a fricking bayonet…
Moron
January 21st, 2010 at 10:46 am
Depends what kind of acid.
My first trip was on blue micro dot sailing off Waikiki. I was so uselss the crew tied a line to my wrist and tossed me overboard doing about knots. Dolphins started swiming around me and I could steer myself just like them using my hands as rutters, true story, most amazing thing I’d ever been thru. Its a fairly mild acid that keeps you in the more sane realm of things.
“Four way window pane” can be some brutal sht if you’re in a bad space making you want to destroy just about anything around you, or go completely paranoid and hide for days. I stayed in my shower trying to wash the sin off me for about 24 hours til my best friend gave me a coke laced with methadone.
I’m sure we could come up with something that would render the entire population useless just long enough for us to go in and sort out the good from the bad. At least have our way so we could gather intel. Who knows, just a thought.
Mad in CT;
“As a Christian, I am outraged by any reference to Jesus on an instrument of death.”
As a Christian I find nothing wrong with holding a little scripture to help me kill those that would kill innocents.
I guess the rock that David used against Goliath was an instrument of sin ?
January 21st, 2010 at 10:47 am
“tossed me overboard doing about knots. ”
should say
“tossed me overboard doing about 5 knots.”
January 21st, 2010 at 11:26 am
Sounds pretty cool. I’ve never had a chance to do ‘Cid — it’s pretty hard to find for the most part nowadays. I took the occasional 8th of shrooms back in college, and probably will again at some point. It’s not something I’d want to do regularly, but tripping is a pretty amazing and eye-opening experience in the right circumstances.
January 21st, 2010 at 11:52 am
“To have such references on rifle sights is sacriligous and only makes Christians look more hypocritical to the rest of the world.”
Actually its guys like you who give our enemies the impression that we are weak more than hypocritical.
Our military already has to abide by some of the most insane rules of engagement ever concocted in any military that puts them more at risk than our enemies ROE which are practically non existent except to cry “Allahu Akbar” right before they blow your a$$up. Not only that, we are also the most humane military there is when it comes to how we treat captured and injured enemies. As opposed to whacking their heads of on the spot we instead offer them life saving medical treatment and detention at facilities that make their homes look like hell. So spare me this bullsht that somehow a reference to a scripture on a rifle site is somehow some a mechanism of hypocrisy on the part of US soldiers, many who wear crucifixes in some manner be it on a chian around their neck or tattoed to their body somewhere.
Jesus said turn the other cheeck but he never said to let yourself lay down as a sacrificial lamb to evil.
In addition, many of these references could be prayers for strength so as to avoid being killed and not necessarily a Christian moral justification for murder as you seem to wnat everyone to believe it represents.
Corinthians 4:6.
“but in everything commending ourselves as servants of God, in much endurance, in afflictions, in hardships, in distresses,”
I myself kinda like this one, I wonder if its scribed to any of these sites
Acts 9:16 for I will show him how much he must suffer for My name’s sake.”
January 21st, 2010 at 1:14 pm
For #17 (MadinCT) . . . what gives? Here’s the deal, “pickle”. I get it that you don’t want a reference to Jesus on an instrument of death, we’ve heard that . . . a lot! I’ve personally heard it until I’m SICK of hearing it! Would it make the bad-guys any LESS dead if it was a reference to a quote from Winston Churchill or Teddy Roosevelt? How about Ronald Reagan? See, here’s the thing that YOU are missing sir, a huge deal gets made over a CODED Bible verse reference where the owner of a small company who had been awarded a military contract happened to be a Christian. But it doesn’t make the enemy any less dead or the hole in them any less painful – nor should it. Were you in CT when 9/11 happened? Do YOU remember the panic? Do you remember the Pentagon? The news reports of the dead children? Or how about the children who watched the news as Mommy and/or Daddy died in the towers? Look, I’m not a war-monger. I’m not a politician but I AM an American tax-payer who is fed up to “here” (holds hands over head in disgust) with panty-waist notions as to how to more humanely dispatch our enemies or gripe and moan because there’s a CODED reference to a Bible verse on a scope. If someone hadn’t decoded it you (and Maddow etc., etc., et al) wouldn’t have known about it to gripe and you would have been whining about something else all along you Philistine! Get over it! We’re at WAR – do you get that???? Do the rest of your sugar-tit pals at the coffee shop realize there are people trying their best to K-I-L-L US? If it makes the soldier “over there” feel a little better to recall a Bible verse that he learned “back home” to have it inscribed on his scope, I say more power to ‘em! Leave ‘em alone and let them do their jobs!!! Quit griping about some letters etched into a piece of metal – you wanna get mad? Get mad at the turban wearing, sand-slinging, plane hijacking JERKS that started this fight! We aren’t the ones that look like hypocrites! We didn’t go “there” and hijack their planes, we didn’t go “THERE” and live among them only to learn about them and sow terror among their population. When they attacked they didn’t even have a flag to stand under! So you suggest that WE are somehow “worse” than these bush league hooligans because we have a CODE stamped into some of our weapons. Mister you’d better thank God everyday that you live in THIS country with an opinion like that! I guess maybe Washington was wrong when he prayed for his troops at Valley Forge, those hypocritical instruments of death that were fighting for our freedoms. And all this time I thought Connecticut was the “constitution state”. Somebody get me an Alka-Seltzer, I think I’m going to gag!
January 21st, 2010 at 1:16 pm
@BigOrange: Hey there’s this great new thing all the kids are using these days called the paragraph. You should try it sometime.