Meet Ahmed Wali Karzai, who happens to be Afghanistan president Hamid Karzai’ brother – CIA payroll is the word, apparently for years stretching back into the early days of the Bush Administration and continuing to this day under Barack Obama. This is an open talk thread where you can comment about this topic of anything else.
Although he is not technically classified as a CIA agent, Karzai’s brother has been paid for a variety of “services” according to reports. Those services include recruiting and training the paramilitary army which is operated by the CIA in southern Afghanistan.
Quite naturally he denies it.
The news is being reported on mainstream liberal news sites as if it were controversial or a problem of some kind. Clearly the CIA pays people all over the world to provide useful intelligence or services of this kind. That is good, and the higher the better. Those payments presumably go all the way up the ladder to various heads of states.
What is shocking about the story is that the Obama Administration outed Ahmed Wali Karzai. The public outing of a CIA operative undercuts his effectiveness, endangers his life, harms our troops, and devastates the CIA’s ability to recruit high-profile helpers in the future because of our loose lips.
There is a heated debate going on inside the Obama White House about the appropriateness of enlisting foreign services like Karzai’s brother. To end the debate someone high inside the White House outed Ahmed Wali Karzai as a CIA operative.
The reckless actions put the Valerie Plame incident in a new light. She wasn’t active in the field nor was her life in danger, yet the vice president’s chief of staff is serving jail time for his role in outing her. Who will pay the price for endangering real CIA sources like Karzai’s brother?
So who is Ahmed Wali Karzai? As a biography he is of course Afghanistan president Hamid Karzai’ brother, born in 1961 which makes him 48 years old and lucky to get so far having survived two assassination attempts. He represents Kandahar province as a member of the federal government. Rumors have been circulating for years that he is a “drug lord” in Afghanistan, a charge that he denies and apparently has no factual basis. Read more about him here.
Now watch the video report by a liberal news outlet which suggests there is something controversial about Hamid Karzai’s brother, CIA payroll benefactor and useful to the United States. Tell us what you think about Ahmed Wali Karzai or anything else on your mind.
October 29th, 2009 at 7:05 am
Clearly the administration is trying to ensure that Abdulah Abdullah wins the election. Karzai has outlived his usefulness.
October 29th, 2009 at 10:30 am
I wonder why this admin just didn’t go ahead and put a bullet between his eyes. They’ve just turned him into a dead man walking.
Sad, really…that politics allow some folks to think they’re God.
October 29th, 2009 at 11:36 am
This is disgusting. I agree with JoAnne, they might as well assassinated him themselves, making that information public will have the same affect.
They have just discredited themselves. No one will help us if their identities are made public when it suits the immediate purposes of this administration.
And I bet the media won’t demand someone’s head for it (like they did with Valerie Plame – who everyone knew was an operative and hadn’t been active in years.
This administration puts their own political interests over the interest of the country. It’s disgusting.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Plame was a CIA employee, not to mention an American citizen. See the difference?
October 29th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Karzai is a gangster. The fact that he got paid by the CIA only shows that the CIA employs gangsters sometimes. The whole country, up to and including the leadership is corrupt imo.
October 29th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
I don’t trust this guy.
October 29th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
nor his brother
October 29th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
We have been in Afganistan for 8 years. It is time to EXIT.
October 29th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
The Taliban keep coming back. The people must want to have sharia law and all that goes with it.
October 29th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
actually the taliban is much smaller today than it was in 2001.
the afghan people actually follow a relatively liberal branch of islam in a conservative way. meaning that given the opportunity they would probably allow women to work and such … and even allowed them to vote in elections
but
they are quite comfortable with the conservative dress and separation of men and women.
in Christian terms they would be methodists, liberal in theory but quite comfortable with things like no drinking.
October 31st, 2009 at 3:58 am
actually the taliban is much smaller today than it was in 2001.- lisa
source ?
October 31st, 2009 at 4:01 am
Taliban’s Islam, however, a close kin of Saudi Arabian Wahhabism, is far more perversion than interpretation.
hardly methodists !
October 31st, 2009 at 9:03 am
see how lisab makes innocent methodists out to be as bad as the taliban? See how bizarre her approach is? The taliban are mysogynists, and the methodist are all equal to one another and very pro-whomever you are. I don’t see how much more different at their very core values two groups could be.
October 31st, 2009 at 9:39 am
Much as I adore Lisa, I must agree with you on this one Brian.
October 31st, 2009 at 9:52 am
who outted him? specifically?
October 31st, 2009 at 10:05 am
great question, I don’t think we know yet.
October 31st, 2009 at 3:57 pm
levi johnson is trash
October 31st, 2009 at 3:59 pm
he is something else. just amazing!
October 31st, 2009 at 6:19 pm
yes, my quote below is EXACTLY the same as saying methodists are as bad as the taliban
“the afghan people actually follow a relatively liberal branch of islam in a conservative way. meaning that given the opportunity they would probably allow women to work and such … and even allowed them to vote in elections”
October 31st, 2009 at 6:25 pm
the afghan people generally follow hanafi-ism, while the talibana follow salafi-ism.
the difference is that the regular afghan people are actually less doctrinal than most muslims, much like the methodists within christianity.
while the taliban are ultra ultra conservatives, that consider most other muslims to at best be highly mistaken if not outright heretics.
thus the typical afghan considers a taliban person to be a muslim, but the typical taliban does not necessarily consider the typical afghan a “true” muslim — thus the taliban can kill afghan women and children — because to the taliban they are not real muslims.
October 31st, 2009 at 6:39 pm
oh, spooki, this halloween night! lisab found a new thing to repeat, comparing methodists are as bad as the taliban. I hope the Methodist church starts posting to refute your comparison. Then you will have to keep refuting them to maintain your Dominance, in your eyes.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:05 am
brian,
i know you are addled but i did not say the methodists were as bad as the taliban.
but i did call you mentally ill
November 1st, 2009 at 12:19 am
lisab your more cracked than a cracker barrel of warehouse block cheese. your quote in #19 says the methodist are exactly as bad as the taliban. being a methodist I can routinely assure you we methodists are very equal to each other and do not cotten to the taliban lifestyle, dress, or outlook. You besmirch our good name. Now what say you?
November 1st, 2009 at 12:24 am
ummmmmmm … brian …
you are a very special person
as in stop eating the paste special.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:28 am
if you go back and read my comments carefully, you will realize i was pointing out your mistake.
the taliban are a group of extremists who follow salafi-ism
the majority of the afghan people follow hanafi-ism