About a month ago many of you might remember Ben Bernanke being widely quoted as saying that the economy is well on the way to recovery. I scratched my head at this because it made almost no sense to me at all then. Unemployment is still at 9.7% with no expected dip in those numbers any time soon. Outside of a small blip in auto sales thanks to an artificial government program that probably ruined demand for the next 6 months at least, durable goods orders are down. The real estate market is still in shambles and no where close to recovering from the devastating hit it has taken. So, why in the world would the Fed chairman say something like this.
Then today I read this story and it was all crystal clear to me; they are just preparing us for large interest rate raises because they are freaking out about large scale inflation which is heading directly for us. Notice in this article that Fed Reserve member Richard Fisher says:
“I expect that when it comes time to tighten monetary policy, my colleagues and I will move with an alacrity that, if needed, will be equal in speed and intensity.”
and
Charles Plosser, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia and also a hawk against inflation, waded into the debate in a speech Tuesday in Easton, Pa., saying the Fed may need to act “well before” unemployment — now at a 26-year high of 9.7 percent — returns to normal. The Fed, he said, will need to be on guard “to prevent the Second Great Inflation.”
In other words they are going to be raising interest rates, regardless of whether the economy is actually in recovery or not, and this is going to be their cover. You see, one of the basic rules of economics is that when you have a lot of debt (like the U.S. does) and you are running a large deficit (like the U.S. is) then loaning money to you becomes increasingly risky. So, in order to hedge that risk you raise interest rates. If you don’t, or if the Fed and Treasury decides to simply monetize the debt (which they are already doing, read this article for more), the natural and inevitable result will be large and fast inflation. The Federal Reserve knows this as well as we do, and they know that one way to fight this is going to be raising interest rates.
From the above article it is almost a certainty that the Fed will be doing this regardless of whether we are actually in a recovery or not. They are just going to do it . . . period. So, what happens when they raise interest rates when we are not in an actual recovery? Well, let’s just say it’s not going to help the job market any. I hate to sound like Chicken Little, but if I were you, I’d just keep your eye on the sky. Also, buying gold might make sense right about now too.









September 29th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
I wonder if I will live to see the day that this new administration has one bit of good news. Just one, teensy weensy little bit……sigh.
September 29th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
probably … unless you plan on dying before 2012
September 29th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
well you started out right, but a big component that creates inflation is rising wages, and since companies are not hiring, the rise in wages is severely moderated. In fact Bill Gross of Pimco is buying UST’s now because he is worrying about deflation secondary to the cratering US dollar. If companies hire, and employees push for higher wages, and top line growth goes up, that is inflationary, but simply printing and throwing money at problems is deflationary by itself. In fact the rise in commodities, say gold, coppper, etc is in large part a function of speculators again. The rise in the stock and bond markets is a direct effect of the stimulus packages flooding the system with liquidity again and the hands in it that seek accelerated growth for their pots of the money. Jobs are not being created. credit is still severely contracted. consumers are not spending. halloween spending is already down 20 percent this year, back to school and christmas spending look to be stunted as well, then its january and no end of the year bump. Meanwhile no meaningful regulatory reform has occurred in the financial industry. Banker and big investor and ceo Pay packages are getting right back to what they were. NO givebacks are being demanded, simply tax the stockholders or the company. frankly there is no change other than a ton of central banking money sloushing around globally. emerging market growth stats are likely really much lower than they are reported including China. In fact the second dip may start in january-march. Because companies are not hiring they should mostly show good earnings though as they have pushed productivity up with the workforces they have(slave) and this will help moderate the downside. The unknown is, the speculators could drive this bubble quite a ways up still and in the end the retail investor will be too late to profit from it.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Brian:
I don’t want to hurt your feelings, but I’ve officially announced Raygun the new liberal of Right Pundits.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
because there has been no real regulatory reform, no short uptick rule in ordinary trading, bears could again short the market or sectors severely driving everything back down in a similar fashion as before. We are in a stimulus speculative bubble right now in certain sectors, commodities espeically. The bears at the big houses and hedgies could turn right around and short these rapidly and drive prices radically down. I am actually stunned we have not changed much of anything in the past year since the demise of Lehman other than give a lot of taxpayer money to the big boys to play their games and continue to take their incredibly large bonuses.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
well Charles if you read some more books and mags you would ingenuously see I am not a liberal. But that is up to you.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
well Joann, I think a good piece of good news is, under this administration, its unlikely we will pick the wrong war again.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Brian, the main man, I missed you
September 29th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Brian, I know we read some of the same folks who analysis the market based on past conversations, so you’re probably aware that many of them are shocked that we have not yet seen any inflation as of yet. Horowitz in particular is stunned that a) we have no inflation and b) how is the market up 50% since January. This market seems to be unlike anything we’ve seen before. A lot of trading companies are to scared to do much of any trading and the volume of trading reflects that fact because there is no predictability. The only one that seems to making tons of cash is . . . Goldman Sachs, I’m sure that surprises no one.
So the question we have to ponder is this: Is everything just getting pushed back further and the result is going to be exploding inflation, will it be stagflation, or a double-dip recession? I honestly don’t know the answer, I’ve been hoping that possibly this would all just pass, but at some point you have to pay the piper. The fact that the fed has started to monetize all the debt that we have is also frightening, that seems a sure-fire way to bring the inflation on. These smoke signals being sent by various fed presidents seems to me a sure-fire sign that they are very worried about inflation, as well they should be.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
I really think the markets are up in large part to the stimulus packages which have dumped a bunch of liquidity into the hands of the big boys to keep investing. a double dip recession is starting now apparently, with deflationary characteristics, except that the speculators are keeping prices up, but not so strong as to be very inflationary. once we pull out of the double dip in another year or three, we will then be headed towards the inflationary scenario especially if no regulatory reform. so deflation in everything except commodities over the next year to three, then inflation. overall, the price on cars is still inflationary though.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
you cannot have a double dip recession if obama never got us out of the first recession
the market going up could purely be the effect of inflation. the rich are swimming in money so are buying up companies based on their supply of money not based on the outlook of the market
September 29th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
right the bailouts paid the rich a bundle of money, so now they can keep buying up comapnies and make the market look like its strong. how can obama get us out of the first recession when it is we, with some help from government that will have to do the heavy lifting. so yes we can surely have a double dip recession.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
again obama has made things worse so we can not have a double dip recession unless he gets us out of the first recession.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
you fail to understand, we have to pull ourselves out of the recession A first, obama can only do so much with the gov, or what paulson under bush did, and they gave a lot of money to the bankers and wallstreet, so it will be up to us to pull us out of the virst V. Then as we fall into the second V we will have to pull ourselves out of that one 2 as Americans. see? do you?
September 29th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
obama has made the recession worst
sooooooo … we are just going deeper
and it is likely we will continue going dow with obama’s policies
September 29th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
they are time geithners and ben bernackes policies really. we, or people like you, aren’t going deeper if your still working for a paycheck. obama reallly hasn’t made the recession worse or better, he just gave a free hand to tim and of course bernacke’s fed is independent. so as even a person such as yourself can probably mainly see, obama is a very peripheral player to the conundrum innertube you find yourself sitting in. hope that splains it better than my many previous indulgent efforts.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
he has made it far worse
but you cannot see it because you are blind to the affect of his bad leadership and policies
and
it will get worse
and
when you finally are forced to see how badly he has done, you will blame others for not supporting obama
September 30th, 2009 at 1:21 am
well the repub senators all decided not to support him or the american people today. they get paid to be in congress to vote against the interest of the american people. they just want the insurance companies to continue on as they are taking advantage. when did corporations get even more rights than the people? its more than pathetic. in case you haven’t noticed, this is one of these rare times that capital shows the great advantage it has over people in this country, for all, even people like you, to see if they only open “their” eyes. today, capital is valued way above the people, and the rights of those who control the capital is uber alles. it even uses the people to man its foreign wars in foriegn lands. Eisenhower was right in his warning, to the people about the intentions of the military industrial complex.
September 30th, 2009 at 2:14 am
no they voted the way the people who elected them wanted.
it is just you cannot see that the American people do not want obamacare.
September 30th, 2009 at 2:17 am
the people do not want it brian.
basically you support forcing obamacare on people who do not want it. this is not a few people who do not want it. it is currently more than half, and if it were not for very kind press obama has gotten, its support would be even lower.
September 30th, 2009 at 2:32 am
to put it in perspective
39% of the DEMOCRAT reps
and
58% of the DEMOCRAT senators
voted to authorize the iraq war
and yet you dems have bitched and moaned about the iraq war for years, a war they could have stopped.
now you want to force obamacare on the people with basically zero of the republican congress people supporting it.
September 30th, 2009 at 5:52 am
For the record, I am not a liberal either. I thought RayGun was right for the times, but the times have changed. I liked Bush the wiser also. So I call myself an independent, but actually like the word progressive even better. Either way I live and learn, something which the cons don’t seem capable of. aka, Palin.
September 30th, 2009 at 6:02 am
RayGun, you need learn that anybody who dislikes Palin, Rush, Fox News, DOMA, the War on Drugs, etc etc etc is a de facto “liberal” in these parts. And make no mistake, that is certainly intended as an insult.
There is precious little room for nuance beyond a handful of reasonable commenters and authors. It sort of makes it entertaining though, because it’s quite easy to move the discussion in unexpected lateral directions.
September 30th, 2009 at 6:17 am
I am the people too, and I did not want them, the industry senators to vote that way. they voted the industry way, pathetically. they even said it was to protect the industry that paid a good part of their campaigns. rah rah. the poeple for the most part want health reform and would even want a public option as one of the many choices they could pick from if your friend swould stop the big smear campaign. even maya and miguel want it. seriously most poeple want serious health reform, but if your “friends” who you “support so” keep up the propagana they are creating a big “drama” which isn’t helping the people. and its not obamacare, its Congresscare as they are the ones righting the bills. see your distorting.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Bryan,
I read the link from which you wrote the article. I think that you misunderstood what the yahoo piece said. In my reading, what it seems to say is that rates will stay low (0) ubtil the economy starts to respond. At that time, inflation will become a threat and rates will rise to try to mitigate it. If what you wrote is true, then the economy will begin to recover soon.