Obama’s speech to school kids is being touted by the administration as a national address directly to students on the importance of education. Is the President’s speech simply a good lesson in civics or is this just more indoctrination about the awesomeness of Obama? We have the text or transcript of Obama’s school speech below. You can watch the live feed of Obama’s school address speech here, see photos, and get the lessons plans provided to schools by the White House below as well.
In yet one more historic moment for this White House, Barack Obama will hold a nationwide speech for school children. Apparently, The One will challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a “shared responsibility and commitment” on the part of students, parents and educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good jobs and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens. However, it is unclear if the White House mantra of “Obama is God” will be on display during Obama School Address Speech Live Feed Video on September 8, 2009. You can read the text or transcript of Obama’s school speech below the fold. The time for this speech will be 12:00 noon eastern time and make your plans to watch it with us!
The White House has thoughtfully provided teachers across the country with a teaching guide which includes activities and a list of questions to use with their students before, during, and after Obama’s school speech. You can see the complete section of lesson plans specifically for “Obama’s Address to Students Across America” to Schools for grades pre-K to 6, and for grades 7 to 12 at the links.
Some of the odd questions in the lessons include:
• “As the President speaks, teachers can ask students to write down key ideas or phrases that are important or personally meaningful. Students could use a note-taking graphic organizer such as a Cluster Web, or students could record their thoughts on sticky notes. Younger children can draw pictures and write as appropriate.
As students listen to the speech, they could think about the following:
What is the President trying to tell me?
What is the President asking me to do?
What new ideas and actions is the President challenging me to think about?• Students might think about: What specific job is he asking me to do? Is he asking anything of anyone else? Teachers? Principals? Parents? The American people?
• Students might think about reporting their Parents, their Parent’s friends, Neighbors, Classmates, or even their Teachers to fishy@whitehouse.gov if they see any resistance to the Hope and Change that President Obama has in store for our Homeland.”
Ok. That last question I made up but this whole ‘Cult of Obama’ thing is really creepy!
I am quite sure there are some who think objecting to such a nice gesture by the President is quite silly. But the truth is Barack Obama has no business injecting himself into every classroom in the country or suggesting to teachers that they help students figure out how they can help the president through “shared responsibilities”. I assume many parents will be contacting their kids’ schools and making decisions to not have their kids watch the speech. For those parents who choose to do that, be prepared to be mocked by those on the left but what else is new in the age of Obama?
This post was originally published on September 2, 2009 and has been updated with new information.
Update: The backlash from angry parents to Barack Obama’s speech to school kids has been swift and sure. School Districts all across the country are scrambling for alternatives to showing the live feed of the speech. They reportedly have been swamped with calls from parents as to the districts’ intentions in showing the speech and doing the WH lesson plans, which because of the outrage have been revised. It is clear that this administration truely lives in the Crazy Tree.
You can read the text or transcript of the 18-minute Obama School Speech here before it’s scheduled broadcast if you’d like. But HotAir has a word frequency counter and as you can imagine, it’s all about The One!
The time for the Obama’s school speech is 12:00 noon eastern time. And remember, you can watch the Obama School Address Speech Live Feed Video on September 8, 2009 here at Right Pundits!
Obama School Address Speech Live Feed Video, September 8 2009
Creepy Obama Children’s Choir Video
Photos: www.wenn.com, Carrie Devorah









September 2nd, 2009 at 10:45 am
Obama’s Slip In The Polls And September 8, 2009 Address To Students
It’s no different than a 30 year-old man dating a 14 year-old teenage girl. Adult women no longer find him appealing so he seeks those that he can manipulate to his perverted way of thinking for the purpose of control. Adults, with half a brain, no longer listen to Obama’s Marxist rhetoric and nonsense so now he is targeting a captive audience; skulls-full-of-mush that he can mold. Nice try, but we see right through this communist antichrist liar.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:55 am
My son doesn’t vote. Leave him alone!
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:14 am
He’s just warming up to give a speech to the rest of us. He thinks we’re too stupid to understand what he’s saying so he’s using this as his practice run for the voters.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:19 am
Ok. That last question I made up
Hah, really? The spelling error didn’t give it away or anything.
It’s no different than a 30 year-old man dating a 14 year-old teenage girl.
Uhhhh, what?
Also, Obama isn’t talking to the kids about “Marxist rhetoric”. It’s a speech to students about the importance of education. I’m having trouble seeing what’s so bad about that.
Now “No Child Left Behind” (better known as Every Child Kept Behind) is something that bugs me. But from what I can tell this is no more than a speech, and no specific policy is being pushed on the kids.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:26 am
rhayader
not all of us walk on water.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:29 am
Apparently many of us cannot accept a little good-natured ribbing either.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:31 am
rhayader no, apparently you can’t. :p
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:34 am
“I’m having trouble seeing what’s so bad about that.”
You don’t have kids do you? There is something just creepy and not right about Obama.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:38 am
thats right ghost.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:44 am
Its pretty scary when people regurgitate talking points given to them without any real relevance to the subject at hand… shame on you Bill, grow up and approach this like a rational person.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:46 am
There is something just creepy and not right about Obama.
That’s completely unspecific. What is the actual problem with the speech mentioned in the article?
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:46 am
“Its pretty scary when people regurgitate talking points”
John = pot
bill = kettle
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:51 am
have you looked at the lesson plans? there are links. i don’t want my kids to feel like they have “shared responsibility” on government policies which include education, volunteerism and/or healthcare for all americans.
when this president speaks of shared responsibility or hard work it’s always a double entendre and if i am not there to filter for my kids, i dont want them to hear it.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:16 pm
What’s next. Obama’s picture at the back of class room wall to remind kids they should share the responsibility and learn from him, like where I grew up.
Or better, put red scarf on, march the kids on the street to make sure all adults share the responsibility.
Where is the limit? Keep kids out of adult politics. Their parents should tell them why learning is so important.
I came to U.S. and becoming a citizen for freedom. Now, I’m even scare of sending this email.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Yes, I did read the plans (which really aren’t lesson plans, just suggested discussion topics). For what it’s worth, the phrase “shared responsibility” does not make an appearance on either one. Nor do the words “volunteer”, “health” (let alone “healthcare”), or even “government”. The only mentions of education serve to encourage kids to get an education — and again, I have a really hard time finding fault with that.
Even if they had addressed anything close to policy or political philosophy (which, again, they did not), there’s no way this stuff is any more moralizing than all the “just say no” crap that was shoved down our throats back when I was in elementary school.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Cathryn Friar, what a sad, sick little woman you must be.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:21 pm
you don’t want your children to feel like they have a shared responsibility to the government of the country they live in?? or volunteering to their fellow man? or providing care to those in need? we all have a responsibility to our own country, whether we fulfill it by simply voting, volunteering at a local hospital, etc.
having children listen to a speech encouraging the importance of education and the furthering their education is not a bad thing. you do realize that that is what their instructors try to teach them everyday. as for the questions, it simply gives the children the chance to think about what they have heard and decide for themselves rather than just accepting everything blindly.
i have direct involvemnet with the school systems and no child left behind is an absolute disgrace to education. i know first graders who have been passed along to the next grade who do not know their alphebet or how to add/subtract. you should be more worried about if/what they are teaching your children rather than one speech they will hear.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:26 pm
“i have direct involvemnet with the school systems”
Gawd I hope that it isn’t as a teacher
And Annie, as parents we will decide what they learn outside of academics, which is the ONLY thing to be taught in the classroom.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:30 pm
“Cathryn Friar, what a sad, sick little woman you must be.”
when moonbats have nothing to say they de-volve to name calling and personal attacks. who is sad and sick?
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Sound like September 8, 2009 should be considered a national skip day.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:35 pm
“That’s completely unspecific. What is the actual problem with the speech mentioned in the article?”
It doesn’t matter. Hunches, intuition, gut feelings many times (and I would say more often than not) are more accurate than the intellect. He is and always has been a cypher, about which we know little. (I am not a birther BTW). There is just something
If you had kids you may or may not keep them away from people who say that drugs are bad and that would be your right as a parent. Kids need context, and BHO will not provide it.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:36 pm
I agree Kate, no reason for name-calling. I would, however, like to hear your answer to my previous comment (#15).
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:38 pm
What my kids do not need is just more indoctrination about the awesomeness of Obama
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:39 pm
rhayader
you are wrong. much of that language came from obama’s own handpicked education secretary when he introduced the speech to all school principals on his website:
http://www.ed.gov/admins/lead/academic/bts.html
please don’t be an apologist for obama especially when it comes to other peoples kids.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:41 pm
rhayader i do not expect obama to say any policy stuff. in fact under any other circumstances i think its good for kids to have civic responsibility taught early. but given all that has transpired in this administration over the last 8 months, for me personally, the creep factor is huge.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:41 pm
There is just something
Eh, not doing it for me, sorry. This isn’t somebody trying to hand out candy and get kids to pet a puppy in his white van. And you’re far from the first one to tell me “If only you had kids you would be qualified to talk about this”.
I say bull to that; I am as capable of considering the merits of this as anyone. In fact, typically emotional detachment is considered an advantage in contemplating policy (if something as minor as this could even be called “policy”).
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Don’t you people understand…you are not smart enough to teach your children or anyone else’s, how to think or right from wrong…we must have the government do this for us.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:48 pm
much of that language came from obama’s own handpicked education secretary when he introduced the speech to all school principals on his website
OK, so in other words, material that was never presented to children. Move along, nothing to see here. Also, don’t distort the context:
“He will also call for a shared responsibility and commitment on the part of students, parents and educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good jobs and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens. ”
(emphasis mine)
So he’s not looking to encourage any specific views on health care, or volunteerism, or whatever else. He’s looking to encourage kids to enthusiastically pursue an education. I would hope we could all agree that education and knowledge are positive things in a child’s life.
but given all that has transpired in this administration over the last 8 months, for me personally, the creep factor is huge.
Again, this is a red herring that has absolutely no meaning. “Creep factor” is just another way to say you don’t like the guy, it’s not a specific objection in any way.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Let me see if I understand; If W had made a speech to a private school that accepted vouchers and he talked about:
persistence, citizenship, civic duty, personal responsibility, “I am what I learn”, “Why education is important”, personal goals, academic goals, “accountable to their goals”, “acheive their goals”. If W spoke this way, in that context, the Right would be ecstatic about a president finally espousing civic virtues in a democracy that have long disappeared. (All of the quotes above came from the support materials) As an educator, it is refreshing to have someone with credibility and stature speak to the importance of education and making it personal to each student. The key question in the materials was this one: “What other historic moments do you remember when the president spoke to the nation?” Obama is trying to send the message that our education system is critical to global competitiveness and every bit as important as other key issues. Go to the following page on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmz5qYbKsvM to give you an idea of what our students will face technologically. This president gets it and is going to challenge our students to start working to be ready. Barry Goldwater is rolling in his grave while you so-called “conservatives” compromise your values to score partisan points, instead of building on common ground and waiting to fight the points we truly have disagreements about.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:52 pm
ghost
i don’t see how you could have a problem if i was a teacher since these are the people you entrust your children to everyday.
i agree that academics are the only thing to be taught in the classroom. however, i beleive that a speech encouraging the importance of education falls under the realm of academics.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:52 pm
That is why he should be teaching teachers to teach and parents to parent, and NOT go straight to the children…thats just wierd
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:57 pm
“OK, so in other words, material that was never presented to children. Move along, nothing to see here.”
its not the speech itself rhayder. its the pre and post instruction that is at issue here.
“Also, don’t distort the context:
“He will also call for a shared responsibility and commitment on the part of students, parents and educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good jobs and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens. ””
i said much of the language including the shared responsibility… read for content.
and you discount as valid that i reject this administration and consider it creepy? well, when it comes to my kids, my husband and i are still in charge. and please don’t become the thought police.. you’re better then that.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:58 pm
oh yeah, this is a great idea … eeeeeeek
ok, so what is the over/under for how many teachers wind up on fox news for this event?
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:59 pm
obama will, as usual, give a lovely encouraging speech. he will talk about his childhood, his kids, his dog.
its the lessons for pre, during, and post speech that are at issue.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:02 pm
“its the lessons for pre, during, and post speech that are at issue.”
when you open an eleven foot pole factory we can discuss that
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:03 pm
If you want to be involved at all…otherwise it Sound like September 8, 2009 should be considered a national skip day.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:07 pm
in many school systems it will not be a one day event.
without trying to color the event either way, the students are supposed to create goals, basically there is going to be a lot of classroom and school-wide activities surrounding this event.
it will potentially be a year long event depending on the school system.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Arne Duncan, Obama’s Secy of Education promoted the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. The Challenge was led by William Ayers who hand picked Barack Obama to run it. As the disburser of the $100,000,000.00 spent on the project, money was channeled by Barack Obama to The Small Schools Project which was run by domestic terrorist William Ayers and affirmed communist Michael Klonsky.
The project was a complete and total failure and absolutely nothing was accomplished. You are judged by the company you keep and by your past track record. I think Obama should stay out of our schools.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:08 pm
well, when it comes to my kids, my husband and i are still in charge. and please don’t become the thought police.. you’re better then that.
Do what you want with your kids. Keep them home. I couldn’t care less, and never said otherwise.
I’m reacting to the claim that Obama giving this speech is somehow generally inappropriate and not in keeping with our public school systems. I think that’s bunk. I’m not talking to anybody about specific decisions when it comes to raising their children.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:08 pm
“Eh, not doing it for me, sorry.”
It doesn’t have to do anything for you.
“I am as capable of considering the merits of this as anyone.”
You are how old with what type of education (an engineer IIRC)? Elementary school kids are not as capable. My 3 are in college now, they are perfectly able to form whatever opinions they want. One is farther right than I am, one voted for BHO and the other could care less about politics. Makes for interesting dinner discussions when they are home.
“In fact, typically emotional detachment is considered an advantage in contemplating policy”
We aren’t talking policy, we are talking about our kids. There is no such thing as emotional detachment when it comes to them. You will learn that in time.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:09 pm
HUSSAIN OBAMA
CHAIRMAN, WHEN DO OUR CHILDREN GET THERE LITTLE RED BOOKS? YOU UNDERESTIMATE OUR YOUNG PEOPLE. THEY ARE SMARTER THAN YOU. YOUR MESSAGE WILL NOT BE TAKEN HOME TO THERE PARENTS. ONLY A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF JUST HOW DANGEREST YOU ARE. NICE TRY AT ” H*TLER ” YOUTH. CALL IRAN, KENYA, NORTH KOREA, AND ASK WHAT YOU ARE TO DO NEXT. YOU SOCIALISTIC TERROIST.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:10 pm
its the lessons for pre, during, and post speech that are at issue.
Again, I read those suggested discussion topics, and found nothing the least bit objectionable. Could you quote us some passages that bother you, and explain why they bother you?
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:11 pm
the interuption is not keeping with our public school systems
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:11 pm
rhayder i was speaking metaphorically. of course you are not stepping on parental rights. but again my point is not about what obama will say, it is the general teaching the week before (now) and afterwards that is concerning.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:12 pm
You will learn that in time.
Ugh, why are parents so condescending to non-parents? I’m not trying to tell you how to raise your kids. Stop pretending everyone who discusses education is trying to bully you around as a parent.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:14 pm
the interuption is not keeping with our public school systems
Interruption? Do you have any idea how much time is wasted in the typical public school day? Hell, I remember going to all sorts of random non-educational assemblies that were much more frivolous than this.
it is the general teaching the week before (now) and afterwards that is concerning.
Could you give me an example of what you mean by this?
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:14 pm
“it is the general teaching the week before (now) and afterwards that is concerning.”
you might want to ask your school what their plan is, in the interest of finding out how you could help/get involved.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:16 pm
or stop
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Sorry Barry, but I’ve already given a speech to my kids about the importance of education. We don’t need you. Shouldn’t you be busy doing something important. Well I suppose in your mind, indoctrinating children and starting national youth groups is important. As it was to Adolf.
I predict that 9/8/09 will show an extremely low attendance rate. My children will certainly not attend if we are unable to opt out.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:18 pm
why would you want to stop an activity involving barack obama, your children, and the school board?
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:21 pm
depending on the school, it will again not be a one day event, so in some cases it may not be opt-out-able.
for example, what if they decide to read a certain number of books over the year as their goal towards education? it is not like you can opt out of reading, or any other year long event that your child’s teacher or principal decides to do.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:21 pm
well just for the purpose of discussion, lets look at these 3 things from the post:
What is the President trying to tell me?
What is the President asking me to do?
What new ideas and actions is the President challenging me to think about?
they seem innocent correct? they are just words.
however, layered with what we know about this administration and their overarching philosophy of ‘From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his needs.’ this is worrisome to me and other conservatives who see radical changes right before our eyes. it smacks of indocrination of young minds especially since, generally speaking, our school districts are quite liberal anyway.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:21 pm
…Aaaand the winner of the Godwin award is [drum roll]…. MoTaVa!!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:23 pm
indoctrination is why I would want to stop it
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:24 pm
44-You do need to smacked around for that. You act as if we are idiots simply because we don’t want our kids to participate in what is for all intents and purposes a political event. Politicians don’t do this stuff out of the goodness of their hearts. ANY politician is looking out what is good for them. I wouldn’t want Bush or any other president doing it.
When the time comes, I want my grandchildren learning math, science (including evolution), reading, history and civics, i.e. how this country was formed and the processes by which it governs itself. As they get older I would like to see some practical skills like how to work with a budget and how business work, so that they have an idea on how to live in this world and not move back home. And that would include becoming fluent in a foreign language. I don’t want ‘forced’ volunteering to be a requirement for graduation anymore than participating in sports to be required
They can learn the political process and their religion if they have one, from their parents.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:24 pm
First of all I have a problem with his mantra “Obama is God” goes against my beliefs. Second of all I DO NOT want my children to be indoctrinated by some president of the USA who REFUSES to show proof of his birth. Third of all my oldest child has been taught by ME his MOTHER about volunteering and moral responsibilities.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:25 pm
kate
if you look at those three questions and what you perceive in them, you are seeing imaginary underlying meanings in straight forward questions. these questions are trying to get the children to understand what they have heard and think for themselves about it.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Kate, this is exactly why my wife and I are Home Schooling this year! Call me paranoid, call me crazy. This is subtle indoctrination, get the kids on your side and you’ve made huge strides in society.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:27 pm
rhayader
you are asking legitimate questions.
but to answer them is difficult because its not just an isolated incident anymore in the age of obama. this is not an overreaction by conservative parents to a liberal president. its one thing after another with these clowns and this just ‘feels’ like soft indoctrination.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:27 pm
however, layered with what we know about this administration and their overarching philosophy of ‘From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his needs.’ this is worrisome to me and other conservatives who see radical changes right before our eyes. it smacks of indocrination of young minds especially since, generally speaking, our school districts are quite liberal anyway.
But that’s not what the questions are asking about. Assuming the speech is actually about education — as expected — I don’t see how any reasonable person could answer those questions with anything relating to economic policy or governmental philosophy. A child would answer “the President is trying to tell me to make sure I get a good education”, etc.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Well another reason we’re homeschooling is my daughter comes home, not knowing who Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson or Ronald Reagan are but she knows everything about Barack Obama.
And don’t give me that he’s the president nonsense. It was before Obama was elected. She didn’t even know who George W. Bush was.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:28 pm
In that case we are prepared to home school.
But luckily that particular ‘what if’ wont be realized.
I am a part of a large group of parents that are appling great pressure to this particular school. As it stands now, the broadcast my be an ‘opt-in only’ event.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:28 pm
^5 shannon!
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:29 pm
56
Politcs…straight forward…I don’t thinks so, sounds conflicting
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:30 pm
@ghost: Done with you, won’t be answering you any more. I don’t have time for asshats who tell an adult that he “needs to be smacked around”.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:31 pm
actually my favorite is,
“why is it important that we listen to our president and other elected officials …”
this has fox news special written all over it.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:31 pm
59
if you don’t have children, why are you so worried about what we do with our children
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:32 pm
rhayader again you are looking at this from a isolated issue. a speech to school kids.
but its not just that to us…
to half or more of the country this is creepy and seems like soft indoctination especially when you couple it with all the other stuff he has done to take control. come on.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:32 pm
ghost
i understand your point about not having the politics introduced to elementary aged children. what about to those in high school who will soon have the option to vote? i believe that parents should share their opinion on politics with their children, but ashouldn’t they hear all sides before they form an opinion of their own?
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:32 pm
65
so fox would have an underlying message but not Obama???
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:34 pm
if you don’t have children, why are you so worried about what we do with our children
As I’ve said several times already, I have absolutely zero interest in how any of you decide to raise your children. Home school them, church school them, do whatever the hell you want.
I’m defending an attack on what I see as a perfectly reasonable public school activity. I already replied to this exact sentiment in comment #39.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:34 pm
“i believe that parents should share their opinion on politics with their children, but shouldn’t they hear all sides before they form an opinion of their own?”
yeah, lets have teachers present their political views to their pupils.
… um … we are banning guns first right?
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:34 pm
64- Asshat. Gawd that hurts coming from a stoner sh!t like yourself. Grow up dude, it is a tough world out there.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:35 pm
68 not in grade school
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Godwin…?!?! Gibberish.
Here’s my wiki…..MoTaVa’s Law.
The law states that no matter how obvious the facts are, people will deny them.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:35 pm
to half or more of the country this is creepy and seems like soft indoctination especially when you couple it with all the other stuff he has done to take control. come on.
Not sure how you arrived at that number, but anyway, I see that as an inference unsupported by any materials released relating to this speech. You can read more into it if you want, but that’s exactly what you’re doing: reading more into it.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Why do you consider it an attack…its our right of opinion
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:37 pm
66
what does it matter if someone has children or not?
we should always be concerned about the school system. those children will be out in the world someday.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:37 pm
“so fox would have an underlying message but not Obama???” american
what i am saying is that i would not be so terribly worried about obama’s speech.
it will be the lessons and activities that SOME schools will create around this.
this is exactly the kind of thing that gets redneck bible hugging gun toting hick parents all upset.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:38 pm
rhayader….perspective perspective perspective
Perhaps you’re not reading enough into it.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:38 pm
being concerned and shoving something down someones throat because they are told they can leave, are two different things
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:39 pm
“we should always be concerned about the school system. those children will be out in the world someday.”
which is why we should focus on non-political things in school
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:39 pm
lisib, your so nieve
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:40 pm
68 – They are going to get all sides of the political spectrum, provided that they are taught a little history in school. Most will go with the same party their parents did regardless.
The problem is with children, we teach them that sharing and caring for other people is a virtue, and done at the level of the individual it indeed is. However, given the Dem notion of sharing or volunteering being a national obligation, there is bound to be confusion, especially when they don’t realize that the programs that promote “sharing” have actually led to people being dependent on the government.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:40 pm
what does it matter if someone has children or not?
Thanks Annie!
Perhaps you’re not reading enough into it.
OK, but that just gets into a circuitous argument, each claiming that the other has a wrong perspective. If that’s where this is going, I’m happy saying “live and let live” and getting the hell out of work for the day.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:40 pm
What Obama gets is that the biggest problem with American education is not the system, but rather the home support in elementary and then intrinsic motivation in secondary. He wants to use his oratorical skills to inspire students to answer his call to action. George Lopez has a great line promoting his new comedy special on HBO. “While you were playing your Sudoku, we took over the country”. He could’ve said this to average school kids, “While you were (playing video games, twittering, myspacing, facebooking, etc…) your global peers took all your future jobs away!”
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:42 pm
“What Obama gets is that the biggest problem with American education is not the system, but rather the home support in elementary”
yes, the public system is great, if we could just keep the parents away from the children
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:43 pm
lisa, have you been given specific materials and lesson plan for this event? How is it going to be shown? Network? Channel One? Webcast?
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:43 pm
3 questions:
What is the President trying to tell me?
What is the President asking me to do?
What new ideas and actions is the President challenging me to think about?
Obama must be a very good guy, he is all in my interest and country’s interest.
When I grow up, I’ll listen whatever he said.
…. This is the first step of brain wash ….
…. This is the first step to get kids into your van , sick ….
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:44 pm
86…what does that mean? Are you serious or am I missing the sarcasm?
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:44 pm
“lisib, your so nieve” american
or … i am a teacher who will be caught in the middle between … all sides.
this speech of obama’s is a really really really bad idea, from the point of view of peace in the classroom.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:45 pm
OMG lisa
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Yeah the teachers are the ones who really take the brunt of the crap here. My sympathies Lisa!
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Rhayander, since we have now insulted each other and our internet muscles have been flexed and the testosterone purged, we should re-engage. As I have stated before, we agree on the decriminalization of drugs, and we did do a good job together of keeping mickey from laying waste to Afghanistan.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:48 pm
“have you been given specific materials and lesson plan for this event?”
not yet, and i holding my breath.
i happen to be lucky enough to teach in a racially diverse school district, with a racially diverse school board and superintendent.
i am sure that whatever is planned it will be incredibly educational and enrich the lives of our children, their family’s and our community
and i am sure i am going to get phone calls
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:48 pm
its just naive to think we can trust this guy even over a speech to school kids.
we knew what he believed before he was elected, who he associates/associated with and what his stated motives are. we have seen with our eyes how he has screwed us. why would we not be skeptical of all of this?
this is not about over-reaction. in the long run, i only responsible for my wee kids. and i want mine to reflect our values on work, education, service not obamas.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:49 pm
If you want to control the masses you start with the children! There is no need to show this video. America as a whole supports more people with charity than any other nation on this planet.
Who gives Obama aka Darth Vader the right to tell our schools paid for by my tax dollars ran by the states to show our children a video none us has seen. He did not ask or have the school contact me before hand for permission!
I heard today he wants to control the country’s water, food supply, and the internet.
This Jack ass needs to be run out of office hell out of our country. Maybe even tried for treason as far as I’m concerned! He forgot his job is to serve the people. We do not serve him or his special interest groups.
Down with Obama!!!
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:51 pm
71
i was not implying that teachers should necessarily give their political opinion. only that those teenagers that will soon have the right to vote should simply view all sides (right vs. left, rep. vs. dem.) before they decide.
83
i don’t believe that volunteering is a “national obligation” as it is in some countries. i do believe that it has been lost somewhat in this generation. of what programs do you speak of?
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:52 pm
later …
but i would not be concerned with the text of obama’s speech however.
i am 99.99% sure it will have only one or two things that might be slightly objectionable to some parents.
kate is correct, focus on the surrounding events.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:53 pm
This is a trial run. If this goes off nicely and without a big stink you can rest assured he will speak (to our children)again.
Bad idea. Bad bad bad idea.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
“i was not implying that teachers should necessarily give their political opinion. only that those teenagers that will soon have the right to vote should simply view all sides (right vs. left, rep. vs. dem.) before they decide.”
not in schools.
contrary to what you might think, most teachers do not want to be a vehicle for spreading other points of view.
it is not really our job and it only causes us headaches …
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Correcting 85. I meant lack of home support.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
“This is a trial run. If this goes off nicely and without a big stink you can rest assured he will speak (to our children)again. ”
count on it.
yearly at least.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I doubt it will take a year. I predict around July 4 as the next address to future voters.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:56 pm
“of what programs do you speak of?”
any program that redistributes income over the long term and produces generational dependencies on the government for food, shelter and medical care. Go to any inner city or some of the rural parts of the southern states and ask the teenager with 2 kids where money comes from. Or in the case nowdays the debit card. There are several to pick from.
Many school districts and colleges require volunteering/community service as a condition of graduation.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Be scared very scared!
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:01 pm
well, i think in the long run, this will most likely backfire because The One has just become an embarrassment to at least, if not more, then half of the country.
many kids will have ’school flu’ and won’t even be there. it may turn out to be a bust like so many other things obama does.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
SB
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
politicians are interested in votes, not my child
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Politicians are but Dictators don’t give a rip about voters!
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Real change comes from the top down. Just like this healthcare stuff, until our elected officials are in the same plan we are, there will be no good plan.
So quite trying to bond with our children
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:08 pm
well, ghost, the government programs you speak of have done a lot of good in my life and others. i agree that there are many who take advantage of them, though. however, from the events in my own life, i could not agree with getting rid of them simply because of the people who use them but do not become dependent on them.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Aww, arent the little brownshirts cute ?
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
jsut like little soldiers
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:11 pm
I’d say the obvious, but I’ve already been labeled as the Godwin’s Law award recipiant*
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:11 pm
awww what the heck…….H*tler.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
“agree that there are many who take advantage of them, though.”
That they take advantage of them doesn’t bother me. That the programs sap any initiative from entire generations of people and allow them to be led by a government that wants to keep them in virtual serfdom is the real sin.
Do you think that I want people to starve, or not get health care? No, I want them to produce and make the best of themselves that they can. But that doesn’t buy votes like a debit card does. Do you understand now?
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:14 pm
81
i see your point. if religion should not be in schools then politics shouldn’t be either. however, this speech is about the importance of education and not about policy.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:15 pm
This is how you tell the country you will do a school speach. A student reporter. No question asked. Smart, very very smart.. to a kid, not to the adults.
Health care reform, 50% people is ok. Public plan or no? Let’s leak the press and see what is the response. Then say what people want to hear.
Internet, shut it down when it’s not in our favor.
Where is this heading to?
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:15 pm
politicians always talk policy
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:16 pm
No……this speech is about testing the acceptability of his presence in the classroom.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:17 pm
motava…I agree
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Put a frog in a pan of water then turn up the heat slowly
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:18 pm
116 – it is about a President putting his face unnecessarily in front of a captive and impressionable audience.
Kids are told constantly why getting an education is important. Why does it need to come from a politician.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:19 pm
September 8 2009 is now being considered a national skip day.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:21 pm
YEP !!
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:22 pm
115
so, you’re suggesting that in these programs they should be given initiative to better themselves by getting a job and providing for themselves? teach responsibility pretty much?
you could teach them from school age to obtain a good education and to be responsible of oneself…say in a speech about the importance of education. my point is that the speech is merely about the importance of obtaining an education and how that will better someone, not about the differences in policy.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:23 pm
well it is true that tyrants thoughout history have tried to capture the hearts and minds of the children, via their educational systems.
if we are concerned about other controls this administration has taken or wants to take, why wouldn’t we be concerned here?
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:26 pm
122
because whether you like it or not, many people look up to him. if they see how someone can rise up from unlikely circumstances and become President (instead of having it handed to you from your father) maybe they will think that they can beat the odds and do something with their life, too.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:28 pm
annie -you love BHO and probably think he is a diety, so I will not convince you differntly.
I don’t trust politicians…any of them…period.
Why not let a successful businessperson like Bill Gates give the speech, other than the fact he dropped out of Harvard.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Annie…that for me to teach NOT Obama
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:29 pm
“instead of having it handed to you from your father”
Of course you were referring to John Quincy Adams, correct?
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
I want the president of the United States to protect our boarders…NOT teach our children
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
The one phrase that struck fear in my heart? “Live feed”. This means Obama can say whatever he pleases. If he doesn’t stick to his joke of a script, what are they going to do to him? I’m afraid this man does not take his presidency seriously. Between power plays, name calling (yes, it began with him) and his general immature attitude (the election is over and I won!), he is nothing more to me than a really bad joke that I am stuck with until 2012.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:31 pm
dido
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:32 pm
How far away are from having a Jumbotron on every street corner so we can all hear from the Dear Leader 24/7?
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:33 pm
I can see it now…
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:33 pm
heh hondo! that was funny. scary but funny.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:34 pm
September 8 is now being considered a national skip day.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:34 pm
ghost-all politician lie. i simply don’t see him as the antichrist as some have labeled him.
american-i’m not talking about those children who have good parents with good advice and guidance (like i assume you are). i believe it could be beneficial to those children who do not have strong parental figures in their lives.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Perhaps it is time to resurrect this, let it go viral and with luck several young thinking youths will follow suit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYecfV3ubP8
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:37 pm
138- “all politician lie.”
And so we should put him in front of our kids. Thank you, you have made my point. And was it John Quincy Adams to whom you were referring or someone else. Come on now, be brave.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:43 pm
GHOST…you are scary
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:43 pm
130
good one. it brought a smile to my face, but aren’t we supposed to learn from history?
140 you lie do you not? your human, he’s human. it would be the same as putting any other President in front of them or any other person for that matter. if you go with your line of reasoning, no one should teach your kids right from wrong, not even you.
it’s the simple idea of the importance of education. how is it wrong to bring that subject forward in a classroom setting?
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:44 pm
I’m 46 and just spent 2 years getting my K-6 teaching license as a post-bac student at Fort Lewis College in Durango, Colorado. I felt like I was in Moscow or Beijing. I had a textbook that bashed the “capitalist” educational model and praised the “Marxist” model. The whole teacher certification curriculum was based on the Marxist model outlined in that book, and I see those philosophies everywhere in our public education system now. If you don’t think Obama is about propaganda, you need to WAKE UP!
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:44 pm
annie…so gather those kids up if you like and preach to them
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:46 pm
whats wrong is it is mandatroy
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:47 pm
wellll……
parents can and should be vigilant in what their kids are taught at school. ask questions, read their text books, point out ‘errors’.
have a relationship with their teachers, principal and other personnel. be a very visable parent…
there’s tons of other things you can do. conservative parents should never just accept inappropriate or inaccurate teaching coming from public schools.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:47 pm
i agree. it shouldn’t be mandatory, but it shouldn’t be outlawed either
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:49 pm
any reasonable person would just get up and walk away from something they dont like…but the children don’t know this yet. They will all be lead to believe that they have to sit there and soak up everything he says as gospel
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:50 pm
freedom of speech is not outlawed
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:51 pm
I pay for an education for my child…this was not layed out in the begining
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:52 pm
American
boarders? dido?
Maybe you need a pep talk from POTUS.
b-o-r-d-e-r-s and d-i-t-t-o
Your welcome!
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Sorry I am not as good at typing as you
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:53 pm
145
agreed kate. parents should be active in their child’s life. as for accepting inaccurate information…that’s why i approve of the questions the children are given. they can think for themselves and decide what they take away from the message.
147
i don’t think it should be introduced to elementary schools, as i have said before. for those young adults who will soon have the right to vote, it couldn’t hurt.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
So introduce it to universities and above
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:56 pm
high schools and above
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:58 pm
There is a very good reason why all of the other Presidents before Obama haven’t tried such a Foolish attempt at going into our schools and using his power to have teachers plan the education of our children by reading about Obama ! And if Obama is so concerned about the children and our schools , why didn’t more of the stimulus money go towards our schools and school teachers ? Rather than to bail out Business’s and companies who are just as messed up as they where before ! Too many Mistakes have already been made and I sure hope the American People wake up and Protect there children . They sure would from someone trying to give speeches about religion . If the powers at large can do this what will stop them from doing the next step religion ? What happened to the off limits we had on the schools ? its going to be the biggest mistake yet. It will just open the door for the next President and so forth to promote there political cause and agenda’s and its just a darn shame they have to resort to this kind of a tactic ! Its fine to give all the talks he wants on prime time TV where the parents can be present with there kids to see what’s going on . When children are at the young age they are very impressionable and he knows this so does the Democratic party ! May GOD Help them if they do this . They will have gone to far in my book. What next ? have political propaganda played in all of the hospital in the nurseries .
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:01 pm
annie
‘they can think for themselves and decide what they take away from the message.
i agree for young adults although we can thank them *in part* for giving us this hot mess we have the the wh right now.
but littles don’t really think and decide what to take away from the message… they take away what the person giving it wants them to have.
i want to be that person in my kids’ life not barack obama.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:06 pm
annie is astroturfing for Obama, acting like the concerned citizen. How much are you getting paid right now.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:08 pm
i will say again..i do not believe the elementary age children should have this message, and i am not the one enforcing it.
obviously,our opinions will not be swayed in this conversation. it was good to hear several different perspectives, though.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
no acting, ghost. rest assured, i don’t work for the government and probably never will. you seem to just disregard my opinions because i am probably much younger than you, am not yet a parent, and have a different party affliation than you.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:14 pm
My fellow Americans, the issue is that our president (the Messiah) has no business or reason to address or children..period the end. His encouragement is neither desired or required for our children to live a full life. We are are given the same access to education as citizens, some get/choose better by paying for it either with tax dollars or private schools, but in the end, it is about survival of fittest..or at least that what used to be considered the American dream..My children will be home on 9-8.teachers are paid to teach reading, writing, etc, live lessons are learned at home at this age.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:31 pm
annie if we let kids think for themselves then what do you think they would eat for dinner? Do you think they would go to school? Clearly you have no reason to be concerned about this as you have no children, so why do you care?
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
First off i want to say that the man in office was put there because he was able to reflect other peoples ideas of change on himself, we were all in AGREEMENT that we needed something diffrent. I belive the change he is bringing is the kind of change that if it happened anywhere else 50 years ago we would have cut ties with them or been involved in helping that country to get rid of that person.
That being said, if this was for the high school student that are about to be out ther voting in the next election (if there is one) I would be ok with that. However he is going avter children that are learning ther basic foundations. children from pre-k to 7th grade have no reason to have this bouncing around in their heads. comment 60 is right my children knew GWB was a president but not which one they thought it was befor they were born, but they knew Obama. my question to anyone else that reads this is what makes BHO more important than any other president in the history of America?
Im not here to pick a fight with anyone. I just want everyone to use the brain that they were given,if you look at what is going on in america right now it is not good and its not getting any better. Change is needed. Ill leave with this thought, We dont always get the government we need, However we always get the government we deserve.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:05 pm
you have your right to voice your opinion, and i don’t necessarily agree or disagree with you… but you lost all credibility with that last “made up” question… it’s ridiculous and absurd… just sayin…
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Texasborn, whatever “we” did to” deserve” what we are getting must have been pretty bad..Maybe it was giving homeless people 5.00 or smokes in exchange for a vote? possible. I agree with the rest of your comments. I think many democrats are feeling pretty had right now, because this is not the change that was preached/promised..This is not the President I pay for, nor is he doing the job that he is paid to do. I am not trying to reach out to his daughters and I am simply looking for the same respect.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:09 pm
roy it was joke. ever heard of that? geez.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
““instead of having it handed to you from your father”
Of course you were referring to John Quincy Adams, correct?”
i think she meant jfk.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:26 pm
“have a relationship with their teachers, principal and other personnel. be a very visable parent…” kate
oh yeah, i am sure the teachers looooooove pta night with you
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:29 pm
“They will all be lead to believe that they have to sit there and soak up everything he says as gospel” american
actually … and i am not making this up …
one of the key messages that we are supposed to present is that
“it is very important for people to listen to everything the president, and other elected officials say”
and the strange thisng is, “the woodstock” generation is eating that up without any protest at all.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:30 pm
169 – Just about the time I think that I am being both funny and smart, you do one better. Unfortunately for annie (who may well be libertariangirl at HHR) she probably doesn’t know who jfk is, nor what the reference to his father is.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:31 pm
heh. they love me!
my kids gift them on their birthdays and christmas and other holidays and i bring treats to school and extra supplies for kids who need them and work in the parent club.
and they don’t mess with me or my babies! :p
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Jim C,
he meant dido, not ditto
“I know you think that I shouldn’t still love you,
Or tell you that.
But if I didn’t say it, well I’d still have felt it
where’s the sense in that?
I promise I’m not trying to make your life harder
Or return to where we were
I will go down with this ship
And I won’t put my hands up and surrender
There will be no white flag above my door
I’m in love and always will be
I know I left too much mess and
destruction to come back again
And I caused nothing but trouble
I understand if you can’t talk to me again
And if you live by the rules of “it’s over”
then I’m sure that that makes sense
I will go down with this ship
And I won’t put my hands up and surrender
There will be no white flag above my door
I’m in love and always will be
And when we meet
Which I’m sure we will
All that was there
Will be there still
I’ll let it pass
And hold my tongue
And you will think
That I’ve moved on….
I will go down with this ship
And I won’t put my hands up and surrender
There will be no white flag above my door
I’m in love and always will be
I will go down with this ship
And I won’t put my hands up and surrender
There will be no white flag above my door
I’m in love and always will be
I will go down with this ship
And I won’t put my hands up and surrender
There will be no white flag above my door
I’m in love and always will be”
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:33 pm
“one of the key messages that we are supposed to present is that
“it is very important for people to listen to everything the president, and other elected officials say””
Are you serious? This is part of the lesson plan? If you have a link I would really want to see it.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:35 pm
i think i am going to organize a glo-bowl date for my kids and their friends who miss school on sept 8th.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:35 pm
“i don’t think it should be introduced to elementary schools, as i have said before. for those young adults who will soon have the right to vote, it couldn’t hurt.”
um … yes it does.
it is not our place to be influencing the political views of young people beyond basic civics.
we can teach the pledge of allegiance, how many people are in congress, that it is ok to lie under oath about sex and there are 57 states, but beyond that it is the parents job not ours
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:36 pm
mine will come:)
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:37 pm
heh rwb!
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:38 pm
“and they don’t mess with me or my babies! :p”
yeah … i wonder why
do you go into the pta meeting with a list of topics to discuss? i hate when parents do that.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:38 pm
i should make a youtube of it… kindof the conservative response to his school speech. i would need some good bumper music.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:39 pm
guilty.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:42 pm
“elected officials say””
Are you serious? This is part of the lesson plan? If you have a link I would really want to see it.”
look at the bullet point just above “During the Speech”
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10582301/President-Obama?s-Address-to-Students-Across-America-September-8-2009
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:47 pm
the actual quote is:
“Before the Speech
Why is it important that we listen to the President, and other elected officials, like the mayor, senators, members of congress, or the govenor? WHY IS WHAT THEY SAY IMPORTANT?”
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:49 pm
now i can understand the younger weaker teachers lapping that up, most of them are in absinthe induced hazes anyway …
but the older teachers who were hippies?
you would think they would object to this, but actually they are some of obama’s biggest supporters.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Hi Lisa, I was able to download firefox and now have no problems accessing the comments. HHR was very disciplined today with the 2.11. made the thread much easier to read. Hi knova.
I only scanned the thread so i will spare you all my lack of wisdom.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:59 pm
the thing about this is … i can already predict what will happen.
490 teachers out of 1,000 will be grateful for the “time off”
10 teachers out of 1,000, me among them, will be grateful for the “time off” but will remember to ask — “will the school be providing bagels and coffee?”
489 teachers out of 1,000 will take this opportunity to do something socially conscious, e.g. anything from reading a book a week to stop global warming to having their pupils plant trees in support of the yanamamos.
10 teachers out of 1,000 will write plays for their pupils to put on about a gay jesus coming down to proclaim that a pregnant lesbian teen girl of colour who was raped by an evangelical christian after bible study and got pregnant when the rapist’s condom broke — needs to have a late term abortion or she will die — but the pedophile gop congressman who touches children inappropriately will not allow her to see a doctor because she is an undocumented alien … so she dies … and the play will be shown on a fox news special
and 1 out of a 1,000 teachers will claim it is unconstitutional and an attempt by obama to take away her guns, and she will be on cbs and msnbc 24 hours a day in a dueling banjo special report on appaliachians that want to kill gay people and obama
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:02 pm
“will the school be providing bagels and coffee?”
yes lisa they will but no cream cheese – budget cuts you know. thats why you need visible parents who bear gifts.
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:03 pm
plus … 99 out of 100 schools will get the crappy low fat cream cheese for the teachers’ bagels because 9 out of 10 middle aged teachers have asses almost as big as michelle obama
i mean really
i HAAAAAATE it when teachers wear gym clothes to class … (yes, i am the teacher who wears the clothes from ann taylor and wears her hair up)
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:07 pm
kate,
my school doesn’t allow gifts.
they have to go to the school’s office.
(but generally the office will give them to us)
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Although, to be fair, i’m guessing most school teachers can’t afford Ann Taylor.
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:12 pm
no flameless candles or mugs that say i <3 teacher, filled with hershey’s kisses?? no perfect pansies in clay pots that say ’spring is here’?
well thats crap.
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Sometimes I wish I could just pretend I didn’t recognize any of this for what it was, but I can’t. The problem is Rhayader and annie are not looking at the whole picture. I’m not very old, but I have spent a lot of my time studying history. I don’t like to think our president is trying to pull a big brother on us, but it sounds eerily like that coupled with what Mao tried to do with China’s youth, and that cult of personality he created still affects China today. Many of the young people over there still revere him. I have seen this first hand. My own Chinese instructor in colleger who at a guess, was in her late twenties, thought he was awesome, and this is in spite of the starvation, and brutality, he incited over his time in power. It is a common powermongering practice, when the older citizens won’t toe the line, to go after the children and have them propagate the message. China had the Red Guards, Germany had the Hitler Youth. Especially when the teachers are telling impressionable young children to ask questions like “What does the president want me to do?” And “How can I help the president?” That sounds to me to be dangerously close to “What does the president want me to do for him?” and “How does the president want me to spread the holy word of Obama?” Personally, I find that sickening and I applaude those of you who wish to take your kids out of school that day.
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:27 pm
“Although, to be fair, i’m guessing most school teachers can’t afford Ann Taylor.”
you can always afford ann taylor, but i actually i like “ann taylor loft” better, the styles are a little younger and trendier.
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:37 pm
coffee mugs, candles, christmas stuff, that kind of stuff is mostly under the table.
the trouble is some parents cannot afford gifts and feel pressured and it is an issue (i am in a poor district).
however, i thought you were talking about school supplies. technically they are supposed to go through the office, but a staples card is great.
i know it sounds silly, but a lot of my children “are on the school lunch program” if you know what i mean.
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:38 pm
lisa IIRC you teach elementary students. One thing that I have just thought about is how divisive this thing can be. I was raised in a mixed school and had black friends and a black principal. I was there when MLK was killed.
Anyway, these kids are friends regardless of their color and if parents keep their kids home that day, what does that do to the relationships? The older ones will know that it is related to the President.
BHO wants to set race relations back to the 50’s.
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:40 pm
oh and i really hope you do not check off each issue on your list as you finish discussing them, during the pta meeting …
that drives teachers insaaaaane …
and you wonder why teachers drink
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:48 pm
” One thing that I have just thought about is how divisive this thing can be.”
yeah this will not be fun.
as i said, most of us will be in it for the bagels.
but the school board will loooooove this i am sure.
and there is always that one teacher in every school that wants “to get the students involved”. a couple of years ago one teacher had her students dress up as historical figures and give a resentation, at the end of which the student would say, “who am i?”
e.g. i scattered apple seeds throughout the usa or i was the first president and general during the revolutionary war, etc.
soooooo our local rabble rouser had her class do it too, only more like,
“i was the first female congresswoman, who am i?”. it was painful. no one knew who any of the people were.
she also wanted every class to do a socially consious play, like on global warming or planting trees or gay polar bears or who knows what.
i suggested “the vagina monologues”. she still hates me to this day.
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:49 pm
the government should use some of the stimulus money to provide everyone a laptop that does not have one and also subsidize broadband for any that cant afford it. each morning while drinking their morning coffee,tea,pepsi or water they would be required to log onto http://www.whitehouse.gov where a morning message from the president will appear, so that he can be worshiped. the orders for the day will be given and everyone will be happy.
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Tim V – It looks like the pet skunk just got his talking point. says that Bush the elder did the same thing in 1991. Ask him for a link if he doesn’t mind.
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:55 pm
start tomorrow, make a commitment to serve…
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/09/04/21/A-Call-to-Service/
you can join acorn, work in a soup kitchen, you choose… we will give you a menu of 100 various service options
together we CAN change our world, one person at a time
YES WE CAN
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:59 pm
do it for teddy, do it for barrack. barrack needs YOU. as you serve, you will have an epiphany and realize that we are all one all part of the cosmos, me in you and you in me.
we can take care of the least of us and by so doing elevate the human spirit to become one with GOD as you see him or her.
September 2nd, 2009 at 6:01 pm
ok knova, i will
September 2nd, 2009 at 6:13 pm
His link looks legit, but you would think that the Dems could do better than that if it was really true. Like a real news story from back ten, not a blog entry. Something ain’t right. Thanks for your help.
September 2nd, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Narcissism 101.
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:20 pm
knova it seems fishy to me because i tried googling a few different searches and got nothing. if bush gace an address to school kids nationwide, you would think you would be able to google up a link somewhere.
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:22 pm
also you would think media conservatives would have fact checked before they became critical
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Those of you defending Obama, how do we know you’re not one of those “plants” that we’ve been hearing about? How do we know you’re not working for him? You just got exposed! What now?!
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:26 pm
He can not reach the parents about his terrible ideas of fixing the finances and midical needs so he targets the kids. My kids are not going to school that day.
Obama should be ashamed of himself. I don;t let strangers talk to my kids… why should I let that Muslim freak talk to my kids!!
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:26 pm
comment number 7 here…
http://mediamatters.org/research/200909020012
of course “media matters” is NOT an unbiased source it is soros funded
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Clearly, they are expressing their opinion the same as you are. Different people with different opinions is what makes up this country. Don’t you think you are being just a little paranoid, Kaleidoscope?
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:29 pm
and this was from the same story, last section before the comments
Obama’s actions not without precedent
George H.W. Bush: Encouraged “America’s students to strive for excellence.” While president, George H.W. Bush gave a speech to schoolchildren intended “to motivate America’s students to strive for excellence; to increase students’ as well as parents’ responsibility/accountability; and to promote students’ and parents’ awareness of the educational challenge we face.” According to The Washington Post, the “White House sent letters to schools across the nation to encourage teachers and principals to allow students to tune in the speech, which was also carried live by the Mutual Broadcasting and NBC Radio Network. The live television and radio coverage was arranged at the request of the Education Department.” [Washington Post, 10/2/91]
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:35 pm
a call to wapo for them to check archives could clear it up or a good local librarian. im likely to believe it is true but a tad skeptical.
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Maybe so, observer, but I suppose that you perhaps have NOT heard about Obama’s “plants?”
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:40 pm
Some entries here sound a little “too perfect,” don’t you think? They sound like a well thought-out speech that somebody, such as Obama, spent a lot of time on.
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:51 pm
the difference is obama is basically arranging for all schools to here him, while in 1991 bush did not have a special day for dear leader’s speech.
however bush did give a speech.
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Remarks to Students and Faculty at Alice Deal Junior High School
1991-10-01
Thank you, Ms. Mostoller, and thanks for allowing me to visit your classroom to talk to you and all these students, and millions more in classrooms all across the country.
You know, long before I became President I was a parent. I remember the times that my kids came up with a really tough question or a difficult decision. I tried my best never to shut them down with a quick “no.” I would simply say those three magic words that made that problem disappear: “Ask your Mother.” [Laughter]
Let me tell you why I’ve made the trip up from the White House to Alice Deal Junior High. I’m not here to teach a lesson. You already have a very good teacher. I’m not here to tell you what to do or what to think. Maybe you’re accustomed to adults talking about you and at you; well, today, I’m here to talk to you and challenge you. Education matters, and what you do today, and what you don’t do can change your future.
Every day, we hear more bad news about our schools. Maybe you saw today’s headline, I don’t know if you had a chance to look at it, about the release of the new National Goals Report. Get the camera to come in and take a look at this for a moment. In math, for instance, this national report card shows that, nationwide, five of six eighth graders don’t know the math they need to move up to the ninth grade.
In spite of troubling statistics like this one, I don’t see this report, however, as just bad news, and I’ll tell you why. This report tells us a lot about what you know and what you don’t know. It gives us something to build on. It shows us our strengths and the weaknesses that we’ve go to correct. It sets forth a challenge to all of us: Work harder, learn more, revolutionize American education.
I know you’ve heard about stanines and percentiles, surveys and statistics, but here’s what all that fancy talk really means: Education means the difference between a good future and a lousy one. Reports don’t give us the right to make excuses. Our scores will tell us where we are and where we need to go.
I mentioned earlier the bad news we hear about schools today. But what we don’t hear enough about are the success stories. You know, all over America, thousands of schools do succeed, even against tough odds, even against all odds. Kids from all over the District of Columbia petition to get into Alice Deal School here because parents know this school works. It works because of teachers like the one standing over here, Ms. Mostoller, who decided at the age of 25 — maybe you all know this, but a lot of people around the country don’t — she decided at the age of 25 that she wanted to teach. She was standing in a supermarket checkout line when she saw a magazine ad about college. She went back to school, worked her way through in 7 years, waiting tables to pay tuition. She made it, and so can you.
This school here works because of students like the ones with me today, students like Rachel Rusch — where’s Rachel? Right there, okay — a member of Alice Deal’s award-winning “Math Counts” team. Rachel, you tell me if I’m wrong, but you and six other students in this class alone have taken part in the Johns Hopkins Talent Search. They took the college entrance exams on an experimental basis last year as seventh graders. Even in junior high, some of them scored well enough to get into college right now. So, let’s just put it on the line. You’ve got the brains. Now, put them to work — certainly, not for me, but for you.
Progress starts when we ask more of ourselves, our schools and, yes, you, our students. We made a start nationally now by setting six National Education Goals to meet the challenges of the 21st century. By the year 2000, at least 9 in every 10 students should graduate from high school. We should be first in the world in math and science. We need to regularly test student’s abilities. Every American child should start school ready to learn; every American adult should be literate; and every American school should be safe and drug-free. Reaching those goals is the aim of a strategy that we call America 2000, a crusade for excellence in American education, school by school, community by community.
But what does all this mean, you might say, what is he doing, what does this all mean for the students right here in this room? Fast-forward — 5 years from now. Unless things change, between now and 1996 as many as one in four of today’s eighth graders will not graduate with their class. In some cities, the dropout rate is twice that high or higher. Imagine: Out of a total of nearly 3 million of your fellow classmates nationwide, an army of more than half a million dropouts.
I ask every student watching today: Look around you. Count four students. Start with yourself. No one dreams of becoming a dropout, but far too many do. Which one of you won’t make it through school?
The fact is, every one of you can. Let’s make a pact then right here. Let’s work to see that 5 years from now, you and your friends will be more than sad statistics. Give yourself a decent shot at your dreams. Stay in school. Get that diploma.
Let’s go back to the future. In the fall of 1996, 5 years from now, nearly half of today’s eighth graders who get their diplomas will enter the working world. More than half the graduates will stay in school and become the college class of the year 2000.
The question each student watching today should ask is: Where will I be, where will I be 5 years from now? Will I be holding down a good job and maybe working toward a better one, or will I be out of school and out of work? Will I be on a college campus, or out running the streets?
Think about that tonight when you’re at a kitchen table doing some homework; while your parents are meeting your teachers like so many millions do this year at back-to-school nights all across our great country.
I’m asking you to put two and two together: Make the connection between the homework you do tonight, the test you take tomorrow, and where you’ll be 5, 15, even 50 years from now. You see, the real world doesn’t begin somewhere else, some time way down there in the distant future. The real world starts right here. What you do here will have consequences for your whole lives.
Let me tell you something, many of you may find very hard to believe this. You’re in control. You’re thinking: How can the President say that about kids like us when we don’t even have our driver’s license? But think about it, and you’ll see what I mean.
Think about drugs. You see films. You hear police experts and tough speakers from the outside. You get stern lectures from everyone: movie stars, athletes, teachers, parents, friends. But you know and I know that all the drug prevention programs, all the pledges, all the preaching in the world won’t pull you through that critical moment when someone offers drugs. At that moment, everything comes down to you. Yes or no, you’ve got to choose, and the answer will change your life. Your parents won’t make the decision. Your teachers won’t make the decision. Your friends won’t make the decision. It’s up to you. It takes guts to take control.
A sound body and a sound mind, they go together, as my friend, and he is a friend, Arnold Schwarzenegger says. He’s crossing the Nation talking with students about the importance of fitness. And real fitness means no drugs.
Studies show a decline in drug use, and that’s good, that’s encouraging, I think. And every student who draws the line against drugs really deserves credit for that. But drugs and violence continue to threaten every school, every small town and suburb in America. And as students, you have a right to be physically safe at school. You should never have to worry that a quarrel in the hallway will lead to gunfire in the playground. Fear should never follow you into the classroom.
If you have to take the long way home after school so you don’t cross paths with the gang hanging on the corner, if outsiders roam the halls of your school hassling kids, hassling students, you must take control. Go to your teacher, or go to your principal, or go to your parents, as difficult as it may be, go to the school board if you have to. Demand discipline. If good people chicken out, bad people take control. Together, we can — I really believe this — we can drive the drugs and guns and senseless violence out of our schools.
When it comes to your own education, what I’m saying is take control. Don’t say school is boring and blame it on your teachers. Make your teachers work hard. Tell them you want a first-class education. Tell them that you’re here to learn.
Block out the kids who think it’s not cool to be smart. I can’t understand for the life of me what’s so great about being stupid. If someone goofs off today, are they cool? Are they still cool years from now when they’re stuck in a dead-end job? Don’t let peer pressure stand between you and your dreams.
Take control — challenge yourself. Only you know how hard you work. Maybe you can fake, maybe, just maybe you can fake your way into a job, but you won’t keep it for long if you don’t have the know-how to get the job done. Maybe you can cram the week before that marking period ends, and turn that C into a B. But you can’t con your way past the SAT and into college. If you don’t work hard, who gets hurt? If you cheat, who pays the price? If you cut corners, if you hunt for the easy A, who comes up short? Easy answer to that one: You do.
You’re in control, but you are not alone. People want you to succeed. They want to help you succeed. Here at Deal, teachers like your outstanding teacher standing here with us today, Ms. Mostoller, from your principal, Mr. Moss, to your custodian, Mr. Francis. Right now in classrooms across this country, in the communities you call home, when things get tough, when answers are hard to come by, there’s a teacher, a parent, a friend or family member ready to help you. They want to see you make it.
If you take school seriously, you won’t have to settle for a job, just any job. You’ll have a career. If you make it your business to learn, one day you’ll be a better parent. You may not think about it now, but one day your children will want to look up at you and say, “I’ve got the smartest Mom and Dad in the world.” Don’t disappoint them.
Let me leave you with a simple message: Every time you walk through that classroom door, make it your mission to get a good education. Don’t do it just because your parents, or even the President, tells you. Do it for yourselves. Do it for your future. And while you’re at it, help a little brother or sister to learn, or maybe even Mom or Dad. Let me know how you’re doing. Write me a letter — and I’m serious about this one — write me a letter about ways you can help us achieve our goals. I think you know the address.
Now we’re going to walk over to the school auditorium to say hello to the rest of the student body. To all the students across the country who watched us here in this great classroom today, may I simply say thank you and good luck to you this school year.
And now, Ms. Mostoller, if you’ll kindly lead the way. Thank you all very much. Nice to be with you.
Note: The President spoke at 12:15 p.m. in a classroom at the school. His remarks were broadcast live by the Cable News Network, the Public Broadcasting System, the Mutual Broadcasting System, and the NBC radio network. In his remarks, he referred to Cynthia Mostoller, an eighth grade humanities teacher; Rachel Rusch, a student; Arnold Schwarzenegger, Chairman of the President’s Council on Physical Fitness; principal Reginald R. Moss; and custodian George Francis. A tape was not available for verification of the content of these remarks.
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:52 pm
I suppose I should also post my opinion on Obama’s actual speech. Everybody knows a kid’s reaction when they see an important figure, such as the president, on TV. “Wow! Cool! It’s the president!” President Obama is one of those people who knows it, and he will be exploiting it. I’m sure that at least some of the people who voted for Obama have realized this, amongst his other lies and prejudice (specifically Christians).
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:56 pm
oh hey lisab yes with the school supplies. i hear you. we give them quietly to the school counselors for distribution.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Obama’s Youth League says:
“Sig heil mein Fuer”
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:22 pm
It is the subliminal that I am worried about.
Obama and his henchpeople are using subliminal messages to take over the minds of our youth.
To those of you who only got out of the fifth grade, or who have an IQ of 60 (the people we are trying to reach), subliminal messages are messages hidden in other messages that you cannot see or hear, but which are nevertheless there.
Sure, other LEGITIMATE Presidents (who were born in the USA) made similar addresses to school children, but they were not socialist fascist Muslim communist anti-American freaks, who are trying to destroy our country.
So, a priori (another difficult term–it means from the get go), we KNOW that these subliminal messages are there.
Take Glenn Beck’s advice. Beware. Keep your kids at home.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 pm
“oh hey lisab yes with the school supplies. i hear you. we give them quietly to the school counselors for distribution.”
the best christmas gift to a teacher ever!!!
one year a teacher was dismissing her children for christmas break. a little girl was hanging back, waiting for the other children to give their gifts first. one by one the children each gave their teacher their presents, gift certificates, chocolates, christmas ornaments etc.
after all the other children had left the little girl came up to her teacher and handed her a card, and then whispered in her ear,
“mommy says we can’t afford to buy a gift this year, but here, go buy yourself something nice”
upon which she handed her teacher two nickels and a dime.
the money is still burning a hole in the teacher’s pocket, because she has never found anything quite that nice.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:58 pm
This must stop! Indoctrination of our youth by foreign powers is not good! Hussein Obama has never given a birth certificate! Fellow Republicans, keep pushing on this because we have them on the run. They have no answer to this basic fact: no proof of natural born status. Obama wants to kill our grandparents, then us! VOTE REPUBLICAN AS IF YOURE LIFE DEPENDED ON IT! IT PROBABLY DOES!
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:14 pm
My son is 6 years old. He has already been taught in school that Obama is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I personally do not want him watching any thing that the man says. Everything he does is politically motivated. I can’t even begin to tell you how pissed I will be if there is an “Obama is God” sign in the background when it airs. Oh wait, that’s right… My son came down with something over the weekend and can’t go back to school on Tuesday! Amazing how moms can see the future isn’t it.
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September 2nd, 2009 at 10:37 pm
lisa i hope you have those 2 nickles and a dime put away in your treasure chest.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:40 pm
BMW
heh. i may have taken a few liberties with that whole “Obama is God” routine. i am pretty sure there won’t be a sign in the background… though not 100%.
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:03 am
i feel our education systems has more important things to work on. Spend more time on lesson plans then subjecting our children to obamas bull.
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:28 am
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September 3rd, 2009 at 5:48 am
221
Wow, Klo, you seem to have some real problems.
First of all, if you want people to hear you out, don’t start out by insulting their intelligence by suggesting that they mave have “only got out of the fifth grade” or “have an IQ of 60.” Your less likely to get your point across when it’s dripping with disdain.
As to your “LEGITIMATE President” comment, I believe he has produced a birth certificate from Hawaii. If he hadn’t been born in the USA, how did he even get into office in the first place (being that you have to be a natural born citizen to become president)? Don’t you think that federal agencies (FBI, CIA) have better infromation and investigative skills than us average citizens? Are you saying that you wouldn’t have a problem if George W. Bush had addressed the schools with subliminal messaging (as you say) because he is what you believe to be a legitimate president?
What always gets me about people referring to him as Muslim is that during the campaign everyone was up in arms about how his Baptist minister said “God damn America” as oppose to “God bless America.” Now that he’s in office, he no longer has a hateful Baptist minister, he’s Muslim.
As for the socialist factor, is that because he is trying to make a national healthcare plan? It’s true that the only countries to have such a plan have been communist. However, we are the only leading world nation who doesn’t provide healthcare to its citizens because we are a capitalist nation. It was going to happen at some point and like anything it’s going to have problems at first.
Kaleidescope, you are absolutely right. I have never heard of these “plants.” It’s not entirely shocking that any president would have such a thing.
Although, anyone who has passed tenth grade english can write the way I do.
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:48 am
@Ghost: Hey I missed your last comment #94 last night; I got my a** out of work and didn’t feel like jumping on the computer again last night.
Fair enough; I’m more than happy to engage in discussions — even when there is marked disagreement — so long as I don’t feel like my viewpoint is being discounted simply because of who I am. So my bad on whatever insults were slung at you; I just get real frustrated when I feel I’m being talked down to (as opposed to simply being disagreed with).
Anyway, yeah I’m sure I’ll be in the mix with you on plenty of posts moving forward.
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:55 am
“I jusst get real frustrated when I feel I’m being talked down to (as opposed to simply being disagreed with).
thank you, Rhayader!
ghost, the debate went from civil to insulting once you found out i was younger than you.
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:21 am
230 – Klo is someone who is being her version of a parody of a right-winger. She is actually on your side. Stick around or look for some of her other posts.
231 – Glad that we can discuss things again. The comment to which you took offense was metaphorical, and I can see where you might be angry. The internets can be a place where our passions can be let loose in ways that they might not be face to face. We will agree on the things on which we agree and disagree on the others
232 – annie, I stopped communicating with you before you said that you were younger and had no children. You have no idea of my political affiliation or the totality of my views. I have been on websites and been accused of having some kind of clairvoyant ability to “see” other poster, if they are young, old, ugly, beautiful, their gender, whatever. To tell you the truth annie, I don’t even know for sure that you are female (I have said the same about lisab.) You like BHO and that is fine. I do not.
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:51 am
ghost, i was referring to the comments made after i admitted i was younger with no children (not necessarily to me). as for your “clairvoyant ability” i would love to hear your projection of me (just out of mere curiosity to see how accurate it is, nothing more).
but i am tired of explaining myself to you as i’m sure you are to me.
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:02 am
I have been accused clarvoyance, just like you did when you assumed that i knew you were younger. This is the internet and anonymous. for all I know you could be a 63 year old grandfather, chain smoking camels in a wifebeater shirt while pretending to be annie.
Now for the record my last direct comment to you was in 160. You said in 162 that you had no kids, were younger and had a different political affiliation than I did (as if you know what mine is. Most GOP members are NOT for the decriminalization of drugs and pro-choice. Now you know two of my views.) In 172 I made a joke to lisab that you probably had no idea who jfk was or what the reference to his father handing him a Presidency. That one you are going to have to research for yourself. After that I made 2 comments to lisab as she is a teacher and she knows what is going on in the school.
Please try harder.
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:10 am
Most GOP members are NOT for the decriminalization of drugs and pro-choice.
Yeah, the party of personal liberty, right? Unless it’s the wrong sort of liberty.
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:15 am
You know you could describe my politics by the Charlie Daniels song “Long Haired Country Boy”
People say I’m no-good,
And crazy as a loon.
I get stoned in the morning,
I get drunk in the afternoon.
Kinda like my old blue tick hound,
I like to lay around in the shade,
An’, I ain’t got no money,
But I damn sure got it made.
‘Cos I ain’t askin’ nobody for nothin’,
If I can’t get it on my own.
If you don’t like the way I’m livin’,
You just leave this long-haired country boy alone.
Preacher man talkin’ on the TV,
He’s a-puttin’ down the rock ‘n’ roll.
He wants me to send a donation,’Cos he’s worried about my soul.
He said: “Jesus walked on the water,”And I know that is true,
But sometimes I think that preacher man,
Would like to do a little walkin’, too.
But I ain’t askin’ nobody for nothin’,
If I can’t get it on my own.
You don’t like the way I’m livin’,
You just leave this long-haired country boy alone.
Instrumental Break.
A poor girl wants to marry, And a rich girl wants to flirt.
A rich man goes to college,And a poor man goes to work.
A drunkard wants another drink of wine,And a politician wants a vote.
I don’t want much of nothin’ at all,But I will take another toke.
‘Cos I ain’t askin’ nobody for nothin’,If I can’t get it on my own.
If you don’t like the way I’m livin’,
You just leave this long-haired country boy alone.
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:17 am
although for the record, I neither drink or do drugs. But that’s just my choice.
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:48 am
Hah, I think I would be a little closer to Marley’s “Easy Skanking”:
Excuse me while I light my spliff
Oh God, I got to take a lift
From reality I just can drift
That’s why I’m stayin’ with this riff
Take it easy!
(Sorta kidding — I like the herb but it’s not an obsession any more than baseball or video games for me).
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:54 am
If baseball is an obsession for you, we will get along fine. Unfortunately my team in the Nationals, although I was at the one game that they beat the Red Sox.
And I liked Bob, before it was cool for white guys to like him, i.e. he was still alive.
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:00 am
Unfortunately my team in the Nationals
Ouch, my condolences. It seems to me like the “Natinals” should be able to make something work — east coast big-city market, beautiful new stadium, etc. But every game I see, the stadium is virtually deserted, because the product on the field is crap.
At least they signed Strasburg. I think they could turn themselves into a decent franchise if only they could get things moving in the right direction.
I’m a Boston fan myself.
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:09 am
We have a pretty good offense (despite only scoring 2 runs in the last 3 games) with Zimmerman, Dunn and Willingham. Losing Nyjer Morgan to a broken hand killed us. A team is going to have problems when its ace starter has 2 years in the majors and you are throwing 4 rookies after him, one of which just had TJ surgery and another who is going to find out today if he needs it.
I have a mini plan of 9 games, primarily to see the Sox and the Cubs. For having a bad tea, we generally put 22,000 to 25,000 in the stands, even on weeknights.
It will get better. But even if it does not I will never get tired of the feeling that I get walking to my seats from the concourse and seeing the field open up in front of me.
BTW my first MLB game was a double header between the Kansas City Athletics and the Los Angeles Angels. Rocky Colavito and Roger Maris were my guys.
September 3rd, 2009 at 9:04 am
If god cannot be injected into our schools for even those who choose, Why should our government be allowed to inject politics, or Obamas beleives into that same school. I call Bulls*#t!!!
September 3rd, 2009 at 9:14 am
@Beef: I see your point, but remember that religion is kept from the schools by a specific Constitutional mandate. Politics is not.
That doesn’t mean you have no ground to object, but the two aren’t really comparable situations.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 1:30 pm
If it is really a speech on education then why can’t he do it when we are at home WITH OUR KIDS, and can turn it OFF if we wish. Our children are a captive audience. They have NO choice.
We are their parents. If this is so straight forward then why doesn’t he do it when we can watch it all together as a “family” if we choose.
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Exactly.
Why directly to the kids?
Why “suggested” pre and post speech questions for the kids regarding what Obama’s word?
Personally, I do not feel that Obama is someone I want my child to listen to. Period.
No matter what his intentions are.
The mere fact that the words come out of his mouth weakens what he is saying.
I don’t want my child to associate “stay in school” (duh) with Obama.
He knows this – his mother and I teach him that.
Also, Obama needs to prepare a speech that isn’t a layup.
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:18 pm
This kind of story makes me glad I don’t have children yet. There is no good reason for him to go after children and their easily moldable minds to try to create his perfect liberal world. I’m curious to see how much support he loses nationwide before the next election.
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:03 pm
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September 3rd, 2009 at 3:32 pm
You guys this has been done in every public school in every part of the country since before we were all born. Every kid is fed propagandist stuff about his or her leaders, government, history,culture. It’s the way of the world. Think for a minute about what they taught you in school.
That doesn’t mean it’s OK. In fact, I absolutely agree that it’s wrong to indoctrinate children, especially when the indoctrination comes from the state. But this isn’t anything new.
For the record, I also can sympathize with the idea that when it’s your children, the fact that it was done to you and to others is little to no comfort. But it never hurts to try and have a little perspective.
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:04 pm
“I also can sympathize with the idea that when it’s your children, the fact that it was done to you and to others is little to no comfort.”
Well said.
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Okay. I went and read all that was published and can NOT find anything about ” Students might think about reporting their Parents, their Parent’s friends, Neighbors, Classmates, or even their Teachers to fishy@whitehouse.gov if they see any resistance to the Hope and Change that President Obama has in store for our Homeland.” can someone please tell me where this idea is stated?
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:08 pm
I wont keep my 5th grader out of school his first day but I will be there and pull him out during the speech. I am angry that I “happened” to find out about this. The only way I want my impressionable child listening to the words of Obama is if I have an opportunity to hear first and decide ahead of time. I question why the president would want to talk to such an impressionable age. If he wants to encourage teachers, parents then fine but do not force my child to listen to someone I do not agree with. The adults voted him in, not the children.
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:10 pm
President George H. W. Bush made televised address to students in October 1991 as campaign season was heating up. Bush asked students to “take control” of their education and to write him a letter about ways students could help him achieve his goals, strikingly similar to Obama’s messages.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/26744_Page2.html#ixzz0Q652SZN3
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:11 pm
This is just step two is pushing an agenda on the children. Did you see kids reactions to the alarmist statements in An Inconvenient Truth?
http://noteviljustwrong.com/blog/general/190-global-warming-hysteria-101
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Do you know if the schools are required to show it? I wouldnt be opposed if the parents were notified ahead of time and given the option to pull their kid out (just like with sex ed for instance). It seems a little underhanded and sneaky to do it the first day when parents/teachers dont have time to communicate and prepare.
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:39 pm
no.
quincy illinois decided to not show it.
they will burn a cd for any parent who wishes to show their child at home.
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:45 pm
#255
i put the whole speech in #217. it was an address to a single class that was broadcast to many other schools. it was not a partisan speech by any means. if obama said what bush did no one would be upset.
the fear is that he will be “pledge to me your support and loyalty”
and also that the schools will be very partisan.
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:03 pm
#253 mr. mulletbait?
you didn’t read the post did you? it clearly says that particular question was made up – as a joke.
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:06 pm
#257 “Do you know if the schools are required to show it?”
jenni it’s not *required* but most public schools will participate because of the directives from the USDE. check with you district and your principal to see if your school is.
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Its not so much the serve others and help message. The concern is that at the end of it all, it’s how can you serve Obama. If you think I am making that up watch the video they showed to the Utah kids. Then an inspiring picture of Obama is posted with our all knowing group of Hollywood idiots chanting thier commitment to Obama and not our country. There are videos you can find of school kids pledging to Obama. Thats the problem. Open your eyes. The whole “serve” thing is a mask.
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:44 pm
“check with you district and your principal to see if your school is.”
yeah, just what they want, more parents calling.
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Chairman Barry Houssain Obama is now employing his brainwashing communist minions in every walk of life. Just like H*tler, he first controlled the media, then employed them to brainwash the youth who don’t know better. WAKE THE EFF UP AMERICA!!! Rise up! Are you going to let this communist punk totally destroy our once great country? The msm does not report facts anymore – they are mouthpieces for the communist changeover. PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN AND KEEP THEM HOME FROM SCHOOL THE DAY OF CHAIRMAN OBAMA’S DISSERTATION! Show this regime that you will not let them brainwash our youth. SAY NO TO SOCIALIST COMMUNISM!
September 3rd, 2009 at 9:31 pm
I believe that students that are allowed to view the speech will only hear a loving father pleading with our kids to take education serious and be prepared for the future. The children of today will be our caretakers and our lawmakers when we are old and at their mercy…what can it hurt if our President gives a pep talk to kids about how important education is? Even if one kid hears his speech and decides to turn their life around and become a better student, a better citizen, a better son or daughter it will be worth listening to. Who knows , maybe that child will discover a cure for cancer. I have taught for the past 15 years at a high school and I have had they pleasure of encouraging students to learn and grow into amazing individuals with their own views and beliefs. I respect our President and every President before him. I will be proud to watch the speech and show my students by example that we can open our minds and listen, process the information, and then choose to agree or disagree respectfully.
September 4th, 2009 at 12:46 am
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September 4th, 2009 at 3:40 am
I think we should see what he says sept 8th before we jump on him, i disagree more with his new “green” black panther associate van jones, and his spending millions do get us out of debt plans. I dont think this ‘child like’ interview was intended for parents more than for children to be aware of the political world. Now if Obama presents a ‘go to school vote obama’ speach, the we need to jump on him, but if he says somthing along the lines of stay in school and learn, then we shouldnt convince our kids when they’re 10 that democrates are idiots, or that (as van jones stated) republicans are azzholes… they need to decide and, they will when obama wraps himself in a circle.
September 4th, 2009 at 6:54 am
lisab–
You aren’t possibly suggesting that parents should NOT call to find out what is happening in their specific school?
Please tell me that, as a teacher, you are more concerned with a parent’s right to know than you are with the convience of the school phone lines.
You have made several comments during this thread that concern me greatly about our nations teachers if you are a representative.
Are you really so annoyed with parents who are in the schools and visibly involved with their child’s education?
Please tell me that you are just witty and I’m reading your comments wrong.
September 4th, 2009 at 6:58 am
As far as Obama’s speech is concerned….
…I have a copy of the email memo sent out from the Idaho Superintendent of Public Instruction to all principals and superintendents in the state.
I cannot find anything objectionable about what Obama is planning to talk about. And I cannot find anything objectionable about any of the discussion questions that are included.
BUT- my kids will be watching WITH ME so that we can discuss together.
Honestly, I don’t know that I would be concerned if it were any other President. But Obama’s socialistic tendencies really do frighten me. I have read just enough about the Chinese Revolution to worry about the potential of future broadcasts.
In my case, it is not really about this one broadcast. It is about a political trend that I find completely horrifying.
September 4th, 2009 at 8:08 am
This insanity has to stop! I’m just baffled that these parents, these grown ups, these people who are obviously living in a fantasy land, are letting their children skip around in these godforesaken Obama shirts when they arent even old enough or mature/educated enough to understand politics! So, my daughter, who is 9, comes home one afternoon and says, ” I’m voting Obama.”. Uhhh….excuse me….what did you just say….? Amazing. Leave our children alone you sick,crooked,and fraudluent leader.Oops! Did I just name call?
September 4th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Really? I really fail to see the problem here. The president of the United States is giving a speech about the importance of education and some parents might not allow there children to see it? What is wrong with you people?
September 4th, 2009 at 8:22 am
The problem, April, as I see it is history and trends.
Obama has very socialistic/Marxist ideas and is pushing them through as rapidly as possible. I think this is a point that we all would agree on.
In the history of the world several Marxists leaders have looked directly to their nation’s children to help lead the “change.” I think this is also something that we would all have to agree on.
Some of us see this as a problem because of things we might not agree on.
One of the major problems in our country is the breakdown of the family. Encouraging kids to look directly to the government for inspiration and direction furthers this breakdown. “Allowing” parents to abdicate this responsibility because the schools will take care of it also furthers this breakdown.
Speaking directly to students (without any parental knowledge or consent in many cases) is something that increases the ties and emphasis of teacher/student or school/student relationships and undermines parental authority in a social where there is rarely parental authority to begin with.
Talking to ALL the students because some of the parents may never do it is yet another “great equalizer.” The world is not equal. Life is not fair. Not everyone is dealt the same hand.
This is another example, in my opinion, of public eduation forcing individual students onto a conveyor belt system where nobody is allowed to excel because nobody is allowed to fail.
September 4th, 2009 at 8:41 am
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September 4th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Why do Cathryn Friar and Fox News hate America?
September 4th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Obama is the worst! he is trying to brain wash us.. lol when i watch the video at school im just gunna laugh
September 4th, 2009 at 10:35 am
doug… yawn.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:50 am
I did not vote for Obama, but he is the president of the United States and deserves our respect. My children attend public school that hasn’t started yet. We will watch it at home and discuss it.
I fail to see the harm in listening to a speech by the president and then discussing it with my children. If your children will see it at school, and you have any concerns, then you need to take the time to watch it yourself and be prepared to discuss it when they come home.
IF IT IS a blatant indoctrination attempt, isn’t that all the more reasonable to prepare our children to practice critical thinking?
September 4th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Critical Thinking is a valuable skill and tool for every person to have.
But, I don’t think that is a reasonable expectation that most American parents have had time to teach it to their kindergarteners.
This debate would be entirely different, IMO, if we were only talking about high school aged children.
FTR-I don’t believe that Obama deserves my respect simply because he is the President. I will always treat him respectfully and expect my children to do the same. But, he doesn’t “deserve” my respect just simply for being elected.
September 4th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
“lisab–
You aren’t possibly suggesting that parents should NOT call to find out what is happening in their specific school?
Please tell me that, as a teacher, you are more concerned with a parent’s right to know than you are with the convience of the school phone lines.”
i think parents have every right to be concerned what is going on in schools.
however, do not attack teachers if the decision is being made by the principal or school board. sometimes teachers do stupid things, but many times it is the school not the teacher that decides. even if it is a teacher out of control, you should call the principal, they should know what is going on in your child’s class.
my point was that the schools are getting hammered by parents calling, and they do not want you to call.
i am not saying you should not call
September 4th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
lisab, not that you need to bother with either of them but wes trashed you several times today on HHR and the unnmamed poster also visted rp to bait you.
that is all i have for you. have a great evening and a pleasant wk end.*******
September 4th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
why would they trash me if i am not even there?
hearts of lion’s those two.
September 5th, 2009 at 9:10 am
I was not and am not baiting you.
I was seriously asking. I am not familiar with you as a person. I could not tell from your posts if you were being sarcastic or not.
I personally haven’t seen anyone attack a teacher on this thread.
But, even after reading your response, I’m confused about your personal thoughts.
You are saying that schools do NOT want parents to call.
And you are saying that you aren’t saying don’t call.
I am honestly interested in hearing from a public school teacher. In the past (in real life) I have heard teachers and principals say that they wish parents would back off and let them do their jobs. I’m wondering where you stand on that subject.
September 5th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Obama doesn’t show his birth certificate?! What are you so afraid of, B.O.? I think it is outrageous that kids should be indoctrinated by some guy who could be a spy, or have an allience with some other country. And he claims that he is a Christian! He seems to be Muslim in everybody else’s eyes. So it’s unfair for kids to be exposed to good ol’ B.O. until we find out more about him!
September 5th, 2009 at 9:17 am
Oh, and lisab, please no long irrelevant posts! They’re so long that this page doesn’t load correctly since it takes up all my memory!
September 5th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Kaleidoscope, here! Just signing off until later today to see how people responded to me!
September 5th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
“You are saying that schools do NOT want parents to call.”
true
“And you are saying that you aren’t saying don’t call.”
also true
September 5th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
“I have heard teachers and principals say that they wish parents would back off and let them do their jobs. I’m wondering where you stand on that subject.”
just for the sake of argument, lets say your child’s school decides to have all the students in the class pledge allegiance to obama — hypothetically.
calling the teacher and saying bad things only upsets the teacher and does not help the situation one bit. scheduling a meeting with the teacher just takes up her personal time.
calling the principal and scheduling meetings with the principal is much much much better. why? because if it was a crazy idea of the teacher’s the principal can stop it. more likely it is a crazy idea of the principal’s anyway, and as a parent you should know that.
it also may not be the principal’s idea, it could be the superintendent’s or the school board’s. but you will only find that out by calling the principal.
basically principal’s are weasels without the moral fiber.
September 5th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
here is a good rule which i wish more parents would follow.
meet with your child’s teacher at least on pta night. talk about YOUR child only. any concerns you have about curriculum or books or speeches by the president is not up to your teacher.
the school administration absolutely uses us to shield themselves from criticism. sooooooo …
call the school’s office as many times as you like to talk to the principal. do NOT let them pass you off to your child’s teacher.
September 6th, 2009 at 8:23 am
I never thought I’d see the day when parents would demand a President of the United States be barred from addressing their children. Because our current President is of another party (and, in some cases, because he is of African descent), he is now being treated as, immoral, villainous, toxic and alien. It will surely not be lost on African-Americans that a new precedent is being set for our first African-American President. Speaking as a Democrat, I have never in my life dreamed of treating any Republican President like a drug pusher or sex offender simply for offering to speak to schoolchildren. It is the height of impudence that any President’s remarks be “screened” by parent-ideologues of the other party, by tendentious teachers or school administrators. That any teacher, principal, school board, municipality or state should take part in this outrage is nothing less than a scandal. I rarely use this term, but there is no other term for it: is un-American.
September 6th, 2009 at 8:32 am
ducde, the rights intention is to demonize obama and ruin his presidency as he was too uppity trying to make some real changes to “the system”. They were willing to endure a smiling black man that did nothing substantive other than be a middle of the road “mayor” of the land. But now they decided he has overstepped his bounds, so……they bad mouth him constantly on the media to create a background din of he’s not fit to be president. That makes it much harder for him to get anything passed. And they are fine with just constantly wearing his administration down, forcing it to walk on eggshells and hop to its tune even though its a small minority of the electorate.
September 6th, 2009 at 8:48 am
If you want first world children informed on what their president is thinking you will give them the opportunity to watch the speech, then even better discuss it afterwards. It is not going to be some blatant attempt to indoctrinate anybody in the evils of communism. If you want a bunch of yokels and bumpkins for kids, unaware of what even their president is thinking, you will have them bounce a ball somewhere. Who knows, maybe they will one day make the cut on a reality TV show.
September 7th, 2009 at 9:55 am
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September 7th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
As a lifelong educator, I see nothing wrong with the President’s speech. It is not political and he should be one of the students’ most important role models. He is not being “interjected” into my classroom. He is the President of a country that sure could use some help. Hopefully, that help will be from our sons and daughters right here in the US. Made in the USA.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:39 am
Listen I have nothing wrong with the president giving a speech like this, but to say children are going to have to read books on him and write letters to themselves on how they can help the president. First off I think we should abolish the Department of Education and let individual districts pick there reading material.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:02 am
Obama has such small and narrow experience that he is wrong when he thinks Chicago translates into America. Perhaps inner city, black kids in Chicago need a black man to show up and tell them to work hard in school and thus become a rallying point and reference point for struggling teachers, but most the country doesn’t need in the classroom any President with lesson plans to promote a cult of personality.
I find it bizarre that impoverished blacks feel a man who is half-African and half-white and grew up in one of the most privileged states in the U.S. has something to offer them. But that’s racial prejudice, isn’t it? They look at his skin and think he’s like them.
I realize this post may cause some anger, but want to offer this interpretation of what is going on here. I feel there is at least some measure of validity to it.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:27 am
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September 8th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Fantastic post Frank. Thanks.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:29 am
Lisab-
#288, Couldn’t have said it better myself.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:31 am
I’m a member of an apparently shrinking class – a moderate. I don’t agree with a lot of spending that the current administration has done or proposed and I also don’t agree with many of the conservative responses. I’m in a minority on this board, but a majority on the Obama student speech issue when I say that those who oppose him speaking to our students are narrow-minded and disrespectful. Their vocal efforts to keep Obama out of the schools, just like with the birther issue, have created a backlash and served to re-energize Obama’s base.
People like Malkin may think that keeping up a constant barrage against Obama on all fronts, rational or not, will keep him on the defensive and keep him from being an effective President. That’s a shotgun approach and it really just ends up destroying the credibility of those taking the shots. It detracts from the debate on the important issues – health care and energy, education and jobs.
Malkin, Beck and their ilk should be smarter in picking their targets. Van Jones was an easy one and they are probably pulling muscles right now with so much patting themselves on the back. They would be better served in the long run to use their national platforms to offer real, credible criticisms of Obama’s major proposals, without resorting to knee-jerk labels like “racist”, “socialist” and “communist”. That may provoke a positive response in the narrow slice of far right-wing conservatives they reach every day, but it immediately turns off the moderates that they should really try to influence.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:59 am
He is the President. Why wouldn’t you want the President to deliver a speech to students to stay in school. Every other president has done it and it has always been aired in classes. Parents – not kids – are digging for bad. Get over yourselves and let the President say the same thing we all want to say to our kids, “stay in school.”
September 8th, 2009 at 9:14 am
What about the 600,000 Americans who gave their lives to free blacks and keep the Union together?
September 8th, 2009 at 9:17 am
What about it Light29ID??
September 8th, 2009 at 9:18 am
There is a clip of George Bush in one of his speeches to school children asking kids to write him a letter. There is also Ronald Reagan talking to children in schools…my own among them at the time…about guns, prayer in school and taxes. Why haven’t what these presidents and others said in speeches to school kids been brought up in the media? Why are the lies about the Obama speech being changed after this uproar still being circulated? The speech wasn’t changed except for omitting asking kids to write him a letter. Why is the media participating in turning this country into a complete insane asylum where ignorance, hatred and racism rule the day? I feel very sorry for the children whose parents are so narrow-minded and full of hatred that they deny their own children a chance to hear a president and quite possibly hear something that could change their lives for the better. It is sad. Very sad.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:26 am
I Think That, Educations is the Key.. A lot of you that think that Obama is Wrong, Think Twice.. The kids of Today are tomorrow Future…Right!!!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Then forget Health Care and Crap & Trade and fix the freakin’ school systems.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Flyingmonkey…that would be too easy. The libs have to complicate everything.
By the way, I am against politics in school…I want my grands to have prayer, not rhetoric.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:43 am
“Think Twice.. The kids of Today are tomorrow Future…Right!!!”
lucy that sounds like a whitney houston song.
and by the way yes indeed our kids are the future thats why being vigilant about what goes in is important.
September 8th, 2009 at 10:28 am
By the way, I am against politics in school…I want my grands to have prayer, not rhetoric.
Yeah, heaven forbid our students are exposed to our system of government. Much better to have them praying like good little minions.
(Sorry for the sarcastic tone, but I don’t understand how one could strive for a de-politicization of schools by substituting it with, of all things, religion.)
September 8th, 2009 at 10:49 am
My 14 year old watched on his own, curious, hes pretty politically inclined. Towards end Obama says “I” am doing all I can to get you the books and computers you need, I expect you to do your part.”
He told me he got the impression that Obama wanted to take all the credit for really what everyone was doing and trying to shmooze by creating a bondage of “its us against them”
He also told me that the pres is flat out of his mind if he thinks I’m doing any work sheets
September 8th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Rhayader: My 2 of my grands are in first and second grade…trust me, they need prayer, NOT obamalamadingdong.
September 8th, 2009 at 11:15 am
@JoAnne: I’m not necessarily saying you’re wrong when you say that Obama and other politicians should be kept out of the classroom. But prayer? Of all things, why is prayer the suitable alternative? Isn’t that the sort of thing — much like political ideology — that they should be learning at home, if so desired?
@Micky: Hah, if there was a president who held the power to get 14 year old guys to do more work sheets, he would be revolutionary indeed.
September 8th, 2009 at 11:28 am
There is nothing wrong with an American President asking kids to study hard and think about what they can do to make the USA a better place. And you folks know it.
What is really going on here is that you folks know the long term demographics do not bode well for the GOP especially the religious right neocons within it.
This is all about drastically limiting, or ideally totally preventing, Obama’s speaking to our youth, because he’s a pretty effective communicator.
September 8th, 2009 at 11:35 am
tom
he may be an effective communicator but at what point do we start expecting his actions to catch up with his rhetoric? here’s an interesting article if you have time to read it by thomas sowell.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/09/08/what_obama_says_vs_what_he_does.html
September 8th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Rhayader…I grew up with prayer in school. When I walked into class one morning and heard no more prayer, it felt like the world ended. When we had God in schools, we had less criminals, less unwed moms, less poverty, etc. it was a good thing. Name something good about politics.
It’s a damn shame no one bothered to ask the average person back then what they thought about banning prayer…they just did it.
September 8th, 2009 at 11:55 am
@ Tom: The devil is also a pretty effective communicator.
September 8th, 2009 at 11:59 am
You people are a bunch of idiots? Get a life away from radio talk and Fox News.
September 8th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
314- exactly right !
September 8th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
@Kate: The article is fine as far as it goes, but it’s not really relevant to this speech. This is not an effort at encouraging legislation, like the examples mentioned in Sowell’s piece. This is speech for the purpose of speech; no obvious ulterior motives are in play. In that case, I think paying attention to the actual words is important here, as is avoiding the temptation to read too much into the issuance of a speech.
That’s not to say I can’t see any valid objections to this speech, but the lack of legislative transparency Sowell points out — while troubling indeed — isn’t really analogous to this speech.
One more thing: Sowell’s second paragraph is a joke. It wasn’t the “words” of Madoff that persuaded so many to put their money in his trust; it was the exact reputation/personality dynamic that Sowell claims is the “real” truth. Obviously Madoff proved that the “street rep” can be as much of a lie as any word or deed.
September 8th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Sam..maybe you should take the cotton out of your ears and put it in your mouth…ya just might learn something.
September 8th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
We finally elected a leader with intelligence and now the people are rebelling. I truly believe the people of this country want dummies to be their presidents (actors, fumblers, liars, crooks, generals who lose wars, etc.).
Now we have a president who wants good things for Americans, and Americans are calling it socialism. Maybe those decryers should give up medicare and social security, public education, public transportation, etc. – all government run.
And the enlightened educators of this country want to prevent children from hearing their country’s leader give a speech encouraging them to stay in school and work hard. Isn’t this censorship? Is the tail wagging the dog here?
We are turning into an ugly country, xenophobic and hysterical – all because the American people are being manipulated by talk-show hosts and other extremists who are using scare tactics to convince them how to think.
What a shame that we have fallen so far!
September 8th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
read the speech and not one word says anything about President Obama trying to push his political beliefs or politcial agenda on our kids. This speech is a speech letting children know not to give up, stay in school, say no to drugs & to become successful in life. The parents, school teachers, school administration officals, etc… that have been on national T.V. should be embarressed, ashamed & disgusted with themselves by saying they dont want there children to hear the President speak to the children who need to hear this message now more than ever. I believe people dont want there kids to hear the President speak about this because of one of two reasons, either there afraid of there kids hearing the truth from the President or its a racial thing. We remember past Presidents and First Lady’s have spoken to kids in schools such as George W Bush reading to kids at a school on 9/11, or Bill Clinton speaking to children, or George H.W. Bush speaking to kids in the classroom, or even Nancy Reagan continually telling kids to say no to drugs. I really believe this is racism at its fullest because President Obama is black and he’s telling the truth to the kids and god knows these kids nowadays need to hear the truth from somebody cuz the parents and schools are not doing the job. Stop the madness and the racism America
September 8th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
@JoAnne: So what’s this, the utilitarian argument for allowing prayer in school? To hell with the Constitution?
September 8th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
It’s not in the Constitution Rhayader, and you know it.
September 8th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Carly, show me some indication that this man is intelligent. I have’t seen it myself.
September 8th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Carla, produce the president’s elusive high school or college transcripts, or his thesis, or other proof of the incredibly innate “intelligence” of dear leader. Everyone knows Obama is a big dummy which makes it ironic and inappropriate that the slacker speaks to our kids.
Deep down you know he doesn’t know what he is doing. You know we know you know he doesnt know what he is doing. Stop the games. You like Obama because you like a nurturing daddy figure who isn’t George Bush. Liberals like Obama because they want to be nursed at the boob of big brother.
September 8th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
@flyingmonkey: Establishing group prayer in school is absolutely a “law respecting an establishment of religion” in a public setting (and you know it). Go ahead and let kids pray if they want to — so long as they do not disrupt class activities — but there shouldn’t be any official sanction of a specific type of prayer.
September 8th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Carly, show me some indication that this man is intelligent. I have’t seen it myself.
Hah yeah, seriously. Kerlikowskie keeps telling us that a word as simple as “legalization” is “not in the president’s vocabulary”. Doesn’t sound that smart to me — what is that, about 3rd grade vocabulary level?
September 8th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
“Liberals like Obama because they want to be nursed at the boob of big brother.”
i’m poking my mind’s eye out (again)
September 8th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
McCain, that doesn’t even sound appealing. Yuck!!!
September 8th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
No it isn’t Rhayader, all it’s establishing is a show of faith in a higher being or creator. Again, you confuse God with religion. Nobody is establishing a religion.
September 8th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
I saw a clip of Reagan’s address to the school kids, and I was shocked.
“Now kiddies, study hard, and Uncle Ronnie wants you alwasys remember, taxes are bad, and guns are good.”
The hypocracy of the Right is never ending.
September 8th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Tough crowd. I thought that was a brilliant rhetorical flourish.
September 8th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Now that he has saved all the kids, maybe he can create a job for me. I am starting to see him as God too.
September 8th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Point proven Rhayader. Klo logged on and I have to leave for work. There is a GOD!!!
September 8th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
all it’s establishing is a show of faith in a higher being or creator
But to me — someone who doesn’t hold, or agree with, that faith in any meaningful way — “establishing a show of faith” is itself a religious act. Atheism is as valid a religion as any Judeo-Christian sect you can think of. Establishing prayer in school clearly shows disdain for atheism. If I had kids, I would certainly have a deep-seated objection to the establishment of group prayer in their public school, as it would be deeply antithetical to my own personal beliefs. Are those beliefs less valid because they don’t include a faith in a supreme creator?
@Klo: Do you have a link to that Reagan speech? Sounds interesting — and is probably a good illustration of the hypocritical reaction to Obama’s speech.
September 8th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
McCain,
Obama’s presumptively stupid because we don’t have his high school and college transcripts to review?? Golly, maybe TOTUS took the LSAT for him to get into Harvard, sat for the first year exams and/or ghost wrote his writing competition entry so he could make Law Review, and whispered in Obama’s ear during the meeting with David Brooks which convinced Brooks Obama was smarter than he is.
A slacker? Uh huh. Go ask Billary.
Departing from the most basic of fact and reason only diminishes the force of conservative argument.
That is not the way to regain centrist votes in 2012.
September 8th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
330- dead on !
September 8th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
“Liberals like Obama because they want to be nursed at the boob of big brother.”
liberals do not like obama
liberals want personal freedom.
no liberal would ever support someone who wants to
control the Internet
limit freedom of the air waves
limit your health care
now, i am all in favor of helping the poor. why not open a free clinic or two in ever state say at 100 million each at a cost of 5.7 billion dollars a year given there are 57 states?
September 8th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
It was all bullsh*t for posterity. The campaign will never end
September 8th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Lisab.
How many could be sent thru basic med school for the cst of this public option ?
You’re good at stuff like that
September 8th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Skip med school Mickeyl…we have receptionists now deciding what RX’s we should have. With Lisab’s plan in all 57 states, we just need someone with enough skill to open a band aid.
September 8th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
it costs about $250,000 to get through medical school.
that is 4 doctors per $1 million
4,000 per $1 billion
400,000 per $100 billion per year, if that is the cost of the public option.
September 8th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
the $250,000 includes living expenses while you are training and averages both public and private schools.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
It’s a shame because if a republican iconic president like Ronald Reagan were giving this speech no republican would dare say anything … in fact if anyone did comment negatively on the issue (especially democrats) they would be flogged as being un American and un patriotic. We should encourage our kids to listen to the President especially since we have such a highly educated and articulate one in Barack Obama !! I also think that since he has children of that age, he would be more sensitive to what he says … the republicans are just trying in any way to sabotage this wonderrful president … Keep up the good work Mr. President … the previous administration has left you with a huge mess … WE ARE WITH YOU !!!
September 8th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
So most of us could be doctors in ten years when this finally costs us 10 trillion dollars and fix ourselves when sick ?
September 8th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
It is clear that no matter what the President does the Republican party will find something wrong with it. It is VERY CLEAR that this is a POSITIVE message and I can’t understand why this is an issue. Many other presidents have address the kids before, with no issue, what is the PROBLEM. The message is clear, staying in school and getting an education is actually COOL.
We need to stop the IGNORANCE and stop listening to the Republican Party NEGATIVITY.
Everytime they talk, they put their foot in their mouth. I have never voted for a Republican and never will with the way you people act and I am happy I voted for someone with sense, what is wrong with a pep talk for kids ? GO PRESIDENT OBAMA !
September 8th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Carla.
I’ve been reading your stuff and as a result choose to ignore you up til now.
Can you think for yoiurself ?
“WE ARE WITH YOU” just out of blind allegience ? The beauty of this country is that we are allowed to take self thought and vocalize it, speak our minds, not be led around by the nose. But you have forsaken that, havent you ?
Obama may be very well educated, sound good, but do you know the difference between being educated and being smart ?
The guy is a flaming idiot, stupified by his own arrogance, hes given more speechs than days hes been in office and his popularity is sinking, with every speech on healthcare his and the public options #s drop. And yet he cant figure out to give the people (the majority, isnt that what Dems are all about?) what they want or just shut the f*ck up for a week, go away and let things take their course.
THAT MAKES HIM STOOOOOOOOOOPID !!!!!!!!!
September 8th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
hi carla wb
“WE ARE WITH YOU !!!”
with all due respect carla, there are an awful lot of us who are not. with him.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
kate im so sorry to bust your bubble but there are more ppl with the president than not. you guys are in a small and shallow bubble we the american ppl see right threw u. and its sad like i said before. talk about being narrowminded. and please dont think that your failing party will rebound keep up all the nastiness and you guys are just putting the last nail in your coffins. (Micky your not worth commenting to) LOL
September 8th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
I read this speech and it’s mainly harmless pablum and banal in the extreme. It’s the least offensive thing this commie has done so far. The crappy and disruptive students will continue until the FAMILY
September 8th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
is strengthened.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
@TimV 330- dead on !
Again, faith in some sort of generalized “creator” is religious thought too. I simply don’t share it, and would consider its encouragement in public schools to be a terrible thing. Imagine for a moment that someone wanted to encourage Islam or Atheism in a public school setting. I don’t think you would be very happy.
we have receptionists now deciding what RX’s we should have.
Well let’s be clear now, we’ve had government bureaucrats making our health decisions for decades now. They’ve just been working for the FBI and the DEA instead of Health & Human Services.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Not only is $100 billion low balling lisab, after the first decade, the projected annual deficit is $250 billion. That is the freaking deficit we’ll run per year after 10 years. There is no plan to actually pay for this crap, they just want to pass it and then hope a God steps in to fix it. We are so totally screwed.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Obama has as much education as W did, both have professional degrees from the top two schools in the country, so what’s your point Carla? Yes, fine, Obama is an articulate black man, as Joe Biden has pointed out that is one of his qualifications. Outside of his ability to string words together what other qualifications and experience has Obama brought to the table? You can try to keep blaming the current mess on Bush, but the fact is most Americans are no longer buying that excuse.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Carla, read a poll sometime (we actually tabulate them on this site daily). Obama has about 45-47% of the population supporting him. Now, I’m no math expert, however, I believe that constitutes less then a majority. So, in fact, the majority of Americans are not with you or him. In fact, more and more every day are waking up to the fact that they did indeed elect a community organizer who sold us on hope and change but no real experience.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
carla
how about if you start reading some poll data…from a variety sources. you will clearly see that the majority of the people are not with oblahblah. the american people are finally getting wise to him and though personally he is popular (though not like he was) people think his policies for this country suck.
don’t be so naive carla. it’s our country we’re talking about here not some celebutard. obama is simply incompetent to lead this nation.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Are surprised that H mentioned himself 56 times.
In 1991 GHW Bush was attacked by the dems. They called for hearing to determine the cost.
But today the dems are having an Obama tingle because he is the only prez to care about education.. Tomorrow he will fix the potholes on a street near you. Then he will fix Deal or No Deal and outlaw Wheel of Fortune. They just are not fair.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Carla, if people like me and a couple others on this threaf didnt pay atention to you, you’d be dead a long time ago. I imagine you only learned how to cross the street not a week ago.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
“So most of us could be doctors in ten years when this finally costs us 10 trillion dollars and fix ourselves when sick ?”
well no … but a lot. for $10 trillion we could train 40,000,000 people as doctors, or about 40% of the work force or 12% of the population.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
This is a tempest in a teapot. Previous presidents have spoken directly to students and no one suffered from it. How about getting the facts before jumping to conclusions?
We worry about how to pay for health care, but no one seems to care how much we’ve been wasting on senseless wars for several years now. Who benefits from them except for the industrial military complex, which President Eisenhower warned against more than 50 years ago.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Karol – the problem is not a tempest in a teapot. The problem is that no one trusts Obama. Fortunately, he watered down his speech and it all turned out okay. That is thanks to the PEOPLE (who ARE the government of this great country), who demanded he not make this ridiculous attempt to indoctrinate our youth.
I do commend you for having your talking points down pat, however. Right down to demeaning and belittling the people of the country. The elitism is astounding actually.
September 9th, 2009 at 5:14 am
I think his message is positive. Parents should be telling this to thier kids themselves, but face it, many parents want to be their kids friend, not guide. They will take their 5 year old to an R rated Rob Zombie movie, buy them bad video games, etc. Why aren’t these parens talking to their kids? Maybe the president felt like he needed to talk to the kids, and to be a realist. Also, I hope the people that are complaining are not complaining just because its Obama talking to the kids, and not McCain or Bush.
September 9th, 2009 at 7:31 am
I’d rather take em to a zombie flick than a michael moore fick.
Obama didnt tell our kids anything a decent parent hasnt told their kids a 100 times.
Its all about getting face time with them…
period
September 9th, 2009 at 7:54 am
Obama didnt tell our kids anything a decent parent hasnt told their kids a 100 times.
Hah, exactly my point. Mountain out of a mole hill here. No worse than anything our public school kids have been taught about the government since before any of us were born.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Yeah, but its those little worksheets that bug me. It just reaks too much of Kim Jung Ill, “dear leader” heres my list of things I can do to help you, it smells bad
September 9th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Yeah some of the materials did smack of collectivism a bit, but from what I understood they removed most of that stuff.
Don’t get me wrong: this was a silly, transparent waste of time that used up political capital for no apparent purpose. It’s just not something I would get too excited about.
September 9th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Charlie Sheen lost it man…
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,548400,00.html
September 10th, 2009 at 5:13 am
Hey Micky,
That’s exactly what I was saying. He didn’t tell them anything they haven’t been or should have been told before by their parents/parent.
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