In an ever increasing attempt to undermine the National Security of the United States, Newsweek magazine has spilled the beans on CIA mock executions. My question is, so what? A report by the CIA’s inspector general says that mock executions were used to entice detainees to relinquish information.
Detainees Guantanamo Bay
The left is never really happy are they? Had the CIA actually executed somebody the ACLU and every other human rights group would be involved. What am I saying, they probably will be anyway.
The Newsweek story claims that CIA mock executions, a situation in which a detainee was in one room and a gunshot was fired in the next room to make the prisoner think that one of his compadres had met his fate. Seems like it might actually be a pretty effective way to garner information.
The report also claims that the USS Cole bomber, Abd al Rahim al Nashiri was threatened with a gun and a power drill. (Could’ve been worse, did you ever see “Scarface” and the chainsaw incident?) From the NYDaily News:
The drill was turned on and held near him, said one source, adding, “The purpose was to scare him into giving information up.”
The Bush Administration did however confirm that al Nashiri was one of the lucky detainees to undergo waterboarding. Thank you Newsweek for your continued support of those in harm’s way protecting our freedoms. Your release of a CIA mock execution report proves that.
You just gotta love Rachel
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Sorry Shannon, I’d rather have a drill put to my head than watch Madcow.
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:38 pm
i have never watched maddow ( except once on youtube)
she wants to be the female keith olberman
we should boycott ge
usefull idiots…
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:39 pm
how does a “fake” execution compare to having your head sawed off ala daniel berg and others…
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:41 pm
I don’t want my country men staging mock executions and getting all twisted in the head. We can do better. Maddow is pretty good on a lot of her “political puditry and analysis” actually. She has a pHD and tells the truth though a little spin and over focus happens here and there. But she broke the story about the PAC’s funding a lot of the turmoil in the town meetings, and the health insurer money behind the anti health care reform package. If additional analysis is what you want, she is good.
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:43 pm
actually her pHD is a DrPhil from Oxford, but equivalent. She went to Stanford as an undergrad. Find me journalists with those credentials??
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:44 pm
what’s next a “show trial” for the offenders. hmmm, lots of people will want to join the cia now. sure helps our national security doesn’t it ?
do i condone those techniques against knowmn murderes that might have info which will SAVE lives ?
you betcha
war, is not pretty
these peopel were NOT entitled to geneva conventions-no uniform, no country
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Did she report on Acorn and SEIU coming to the town halls or all the insurance money going to the pro health care side?
August 22nd, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Tim those people who do those things are trading in their very souls and joining Satan as pure as it gets. I would never ask those working for me to do such an evil thing. Its possible if you come across a nuclear threat anything might go, but that would be a life changing event anyways and you might go rogue. What you would lose in the end is a lot though.
August 22nd, 2009 at 1:42 pm
I watched Maddows little support hour for the public option on CNN yesterday.
On the bottom there was a grapich saying;
“New poll. 77% of Americans now support the public option”
Brian, maybe you can tell me just how full of “truth” she as on that one ? What ? Is that 77% from the green room in CNN ?
Lets cut the crap with whos got the higher set of morals or ethics here. It makes me sick to think that what sounds like a bunch of wossies who’ve never had been face to face with someone who wants to kill you are gona talk about ethics and morals in the face of someone who would kill you as a subconscious effort.
I could see Brian getting his last two eloquent preachy and ethical words out of his mouth as his head is mid air,falling to the ground.
By the way Brian, since when do credentials stop you from being a lying partisan sack of sh*t ?
August 22nd, 2009 at 2:40 pm
first micky, cause you watched Maddow I will cut you some slack. That is progressive.
Second, once I had to jump off an ice canyon on a mile high moutain onto the trees on the next ravine below or I would have been stuck. I wore a thick coat being winter so it cushioned me and I didn’t have to try very hard to catch myself in some ends of branches. That alone is pretty tough. so spare my the rodent fights in close quarters. There is no reason in the world you have to fight by your enemies rules. I don’t think I would look towards the taliban or al queda or libya for moral leadership. I am a humanist and a scientist so does that make me merely a partisan. I think good health care for all is a worthy goal given its complexities and costs in an evolved society. Maddow will go into a sales mode at times, but she is the only one I know really doing any “interesting and real” news analysis unless you want to start including Jon Stewart et al. I like Greta and OReilly on some topics also. No one person is good on all topics. especially you.
August 22nd, 2009 at 3:39 pm
brian, in general i don’t condone these techniques but with people like KSM and the Cole bomber, I give our interrogators a pass.now if it was some low level terrorist dude, i would say it is wrong or if they were REAL prisoners of war with a country and a uniform.
August 22nd, 2009 at 4:08 pm
have you noticed the above picture shows our prisoners in stress positions locked in mittens and ankles on their knees with googles and filter masks on what I imagine is a hot day. A That’s sick. That is not what I want my country to be with its crazy jail everybody mentality.
August 22nd, 2009 at 5:13 pm
I am an independent with a hatred towards partisan politics. Regarding the issue at hand, the key work here is “mock.” There was no actual execution. Now that our enemies know that we really don’t execute for information, just fake them out, I doubt they’ll be very forthcoming with any information. I am very worried that our intelligence community is being attacked in the name of politics. Granted, I’m sure that the intelligence community engages in some questionable tactics, but this is not one that I would question. There seems to be a faction of the far left that has more sympathy for our enemies than the actual victims.
August 22nd, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Brian-
So, are you proposing a La-Z-Boy and a glass full of lemonade for these guys?
August 22nd, 2009 at 7:08 pm
if it was up to me I would walk in like Col. Kurtz in Apocalypse now, but for an interesting intellectual and spiritual discussion and give them the option of dealing with me or some angry jarhead. I would be personable and direct and lay out the options. There are reports that was very effective if you had the right person doing it. Now if they are true psycopaths it won’t help much, but if they are thinking warriors or world weary they might just choose me as the one to talk to. I wouldn’t underestimate them as one did stab someone in the eye with a pen. There really is no one way.
August 22nd, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Brian, F’n Move if you don’t like it here.
August 22nd, 2009 at 8:49 pm
mr. monkey I am here to remind you people to be moral, logical, reasonable, and to be foward thinking to achieve more of the good things.
August 22nd, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Brian, I am here to wish that your family had been in the World Trade center on 9/11 and that you, later, were a guard at Gitmo.
This country doesn’t need your liberal arm chair quarterbacking and your 20/20 hind sight.
August 22nd, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Nekademus: I am very worried that our intelligence community is being attacked in the name of politics.
You said that right – it’s appalling the far left would make this an issue. They give away troop locations, they give away all our interrogation techniques, they give away nuclear secrets for crying out loud. They aren’t on OUR side.
Our enemies are laughing at us.
August 22nd, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Nekademus: I am very worried that our intelligence community is being attacked in the name of politics.
You said that right – it’s appalling the far left would make this an issue. They give away troop locations, they give away all our interrogation techniques, they give away nuclear secrets for crying out loud. They aren’t on OUR side.
Our enemies are laughing at us.
August 22nd, 2009 at 10:39 pm
” There is no reason in the world you have to fight by your enemies rules.”
No a$$hole.
You make your own.
Who said anything about their rules ?
Alot of good the squeemish rules have gotten us.
Carter, Clinton, thanks but no thanks girls.
Attacks on American soil and our interests have been remarkably low with 8 years of Bush. As soon as Obama comes into the pic what happens ? An American gets blown away by a radical Islamic on our soil.
You guys are complete f*cking idiots, I mean COMPLETE idiots if you think our enemy respects anykind of moral or ethical standard.
Now, go jump off that cliff again which sounds about as truthful as me being hung like a bull
August 22nd, 2009 at 10:50 pm
your breaking up. what you guys are advocating is genetic war. The russians are streetwise and they got out of afghanistan. It surely is mess over there and we are keeping them off balance. But then what? How long does someone sumo wrestle when there is no ring?
August 22nd, 2009 at 10:50 pm
By the way Brian
I watched Maddow for a whole 5 minutes.
Shes easy to spot as nothing more than lying sinister little b*tch with a sneer of contempt that cant be hidden. You can see the contempt oozing from her pores as she posts graphics making outrageous claims giving no clues as to where they came from. Just propaganda numbers with no meat behind them. It was disgusting.
All flash, no substance, all bullsh*t, no proof.
Why dont you tell me where she got that “77% approve of a public plan” from ?
When you can tell me that its a reliable poll, then its you who will of made some progress.
Which of course we know will never happen. Because every poll in the country says.
otherwise.
Then again, I wouldnt be surprised if you made an effort anyway. You’ve already proven to a first class liar yourself.
Scientist and a humanist ?
You’re nothing more than fricken paranoid lunatic anarchist who makes sh*t up as he goes along because you dont have the foggiest connection to any realm of reality
August 22nd, 2009 at 10:58 pm
you read like your indigested with some bad transmissions. You should burn some sage or something, or tilt the blinds. I am far more accuarate than whan you guys will ever admit, but thats you. don’t blame me. While I didn’t see that show of maddow’s, I find her basically incredululous about the rights take on things. and i can’t disagree with her. Its like bread and butter common sense to me, and her apparently. You don’t realize just how astray.. you folkes have gone, but we do. I think the success of the republican and insurance industry lobbies attacks on obamaplan have reduced the public favorability to roughly 40-50 percent last I looked, which isn’t bad since they have been totally befuddled and confused and frankly frightened by evil special interests, and yes they are evil as it gets. These interests are holding the american people hostage and will do a lot more harm than al queda if they get their way. Easily many thousands of people die each year in america from bad health care, hundreds of thousands really. so do you want to win, or do you want better health care?
August 22nd, 2009 at 11:02 pm
well if we get government health care 300 million people in the usa will get worse health care and illegeal immigrants will get better health care …
which is probably why obama likes it, his aunt being here illegally and all