Is Obamacare, Barack Obama’s proposed health care plan, nothing more than government-sponsored euthanasia? Some seem to think so. Read more about it below, see Obamacare poster art, and watch a great video.
Obamacare: ‘Euthanasia Bill’?
In healthcare bill HR 3200, currently under consideration in the House of Representatives, it now appears that both abortion and rationing of care will most likely become one of the sad fruits of the Democrats incredibly mis-named “health-care reform.” The Liberty Council, a conservative advocacy group, has done a page-by-page analysis of the HR 3200 and has found some truly scary stuff. Now, it also appears Obamacare is a Euthanasia Bill as well. Clearly, either Barack Obama has no clue as to what’s in the bill or he has been lying to the American people – most likely both.
The Democrat-sponsored Obamacare national health insurance plan would basically dictate medications, treatments and mental health services, choose for you the coverages you are allowed to have and operate with real-time access to individuals’ bank accounts, according to The Liberty Council’s analysis of the hundreds of pages of plans. Take the time to read the entire Liberty Council report on the Obamacare Euthanasia Bill. It’s that incredible.
Over at RedState, Erick Erickson tells of a disturbing conversation with a democrat aide who said “probably the best part of the [health care] bill is the increase in Hospice care which will solve the prolonging of life issue.” Erick writes:
Does this seems to prove the argument that the Obama bureaucrats will eventually decide who lives and who dies.
Remember, the Democrats have already put in their legislation a requirement for senior citizens to, every five years, learn how to die with dignity.
Also remember that hospice care is for the already terminally ill. So how will increasing hospice care funding solve “prolonging of life issues” unless the government is going to start putting people who are not terminally ill into hospice after they’ve had their mandatory “how to kill yourself” training.
But wait! Sadly, there’s more.
Fred Thompson recently spoke with Dr. Betsy McCaughey who is a former New York state officer and health expert, about the provision in the healthcare bill for mandatory ‘Advance Care Planning Consultation’:
At issue is section 1233 of the legislative proposal that deals with a government requirement for an “Advance Care Planning Consultation.”
One of the most shocking things is page 425, where the Congress would make it mandatory absolutely that every five years people in Medicare have a required counseling session,” she said. “They will tell [them] how to end their life sooner.”
The proposal specifically calls for the consultation to recommend “palliative care and hospice” for seniors in their mandatory counseling sessions. Palliative care and hospice generally focus only on pain relief until death.
And apparently, John Boehner and Thad McCotter confirm Dr McCaughey’s fears:
“Section 1233 of the House-drafted legislation encourages health care providers to provide their Medicare patients with counseling on ‘the use of artificially administered nutrition and hydration’ and other end of life treatments,’” the pair say.
That section “may place seniors in situations where they feel pressured to sign end of life directives they would not otherwise sign.”
“This provision may start us down a treacherous path toward government-encouraged euthanasia if enacted into law. At a minimum this legislative language deserves a full and open public debate – the sort of debate that is impossible to have under the politically-driven deadlines Democratic leaders have arbitrarily set for enactment of a health care bill,” they state.
Excuse me. But what are these idiot ‘Logan’s Run’ democrats doing?? Socializing medicine in the form of this bloated monstrosity is simply wrong for America. Conservatives know it. Even stupid progressives know it. Could someone tell God, Jr. and his flying monkeys that he is not the giver of life? And because he doesn’t give life, he doesn’t take it either. Life is precious. All life is precious.
Melt the phones and fill the inboxes of your representative in Congress and tell him or her to vote a ‘NO’ to HR 3200 otherwise known as Obamacare: Euthanasia Bill.
Obamacare: ‘Euthanasia Bill?’ Photos
Obamacare: ‘Euthanasia Bill?’ Video
July 31st, 2009 at 11:02 pm
Killing baby and Killing seniors and spending trillions more, it’s like the hat trick of liberal policy.
August 1st, 2009 at 12:45 am
“you know … you could linger for another ten years, all the money that would go to new carpet in senator xyz’s office … er … i mean to your grandchildren’s education will be frittered awy.”
August 1st, 2009 at 3:35 am
In this great USA we have one of the worst health care systems in the world. The cost is too high and too few are covered. When we die in the great USA the last few weeks in the hospital wastes a good part of what we spend. Anyone who thinks we have to best health care system in the world does not know the issue. All of us should die at home anyway, wasting money on death means trillions less to educate those who think we have a greatest heath care system. Most of you are too spupid to leave comments on this website anyway, get off!!!
August 1st, 2009 at 9:59 am
RAR, obviously your methods are straight from Alinsky’s book. You are a minority in belief that our health care system is the worst in the world. Big government means big failure. Take the time to read the actual numbers on uninsured, the bill, and global perspectives on government run health care. The liberal elite and the minions are the beneficiaries of this plan. Real reform should not cost the taxpayers. Tort reform, removal of beneficiaries not eligible for US health care, price control, and taxes on excessive profits and wages is the way to fix this without government intervention. A simple 10 page bill without all the loopholes would fix this. As it stands now, the bill only grows government and union power over the people.
PS. You are the IDIOT!
August 1st, 2009 at 11:37 am
End of life counseling is really just another name for “take a pill and die quietly”.
RAR – go live in the UK for a few months and come back. You will then love our health care system.
August 1st, 2009 at 3:44 pm
DO/Mdefl,
What part of the health care system but you work for? Do you know anything about healthcare?
Most physicains are paid by big government called Medicare. So big government is a big part of the problem. The problem is that most people that are old and sick cost the system more then they have paid into the system. So should we continue to pay those bills for them. Should we raise your taxes to pay for them. How about this, if you take out more them you put in then you pay for the care yourself. If not, we send you home to die without government intervention.
Those on the right say “No universal healthcare”. However, when ill and uninsured they show up to the ER assuming they will get free care from the physicians and the hospitals. Most on the right say they don’t want universal healthcare. However, what they mean to say is they want someone else to pay for it.
Just today, someone called 911 after an auto accident, the dumbass was uninsured and showed up to the hospital. He was being stupid and hit a tree. No major injury, but likely a $5000 ER bill. He asked me if I was concerned about “Obamacare”, and don’t blame him because he did not vote for him. I told him that at least under “Obamacare” I would get paid for my work today. It may not be much, but at least I would get paid. Just like the stupid liberals, when some dumb ass from the right gets hurt they want help, but don’t want to pay for it.
The sickest are the most expense people to care for. They can’t work and will never work. They will never be insured. By not fixing the problem you just shift the costs to the physicians and hospitals to care for them. Fix it, or don’t expect the care.
“No pay, No care”
August 1st, 2009 at 3:47 pm
This has already been shown to be lies and propaganda on websites such as factcheck.org and Snopes people.
I think you’d have to be either lying or extremely gullible in believing these lies to think that the health care bill has anything to do with euthanasia of the elderly. There is nothing Mandatory for the patient about the end of life counceling. And it has nothing to do with killing yourself. If someone finds out they have a terminal disease, it is intended to help them live out their remaining days as comfortably as possible.
There must be plenty of legitimate complaints about the health care proposal in congress. Why make sh*t up?
August 1st, 2009 at 5:56 pm
I would leave this and abortion out of the realm of federal payor responsibility. You have to expect to pay for a few things on your own, just like your tax preparer or accountant. That should be someone who works just for you. People opposed to abortion should not be taxed to pay for it, you should find your own financing. Seems that we want a basic medical plan that provides traditonal care and medicines, but not all the controversal add on’s. Would government workers be so immoral to start up a soylant green(the Movie) program one day? Sure, its quite possible as we become even more overcrowded and underfunded.
August 1st, 2009 at 11:03 pm
Well, I wonder if Sheryl Crow, John Cougar Mellencamp, Bruce Springsteen, Bon Jovi, Bono, Cory Taylor (Slipknot) and James Taylor can play to this, as well as all of the Hollywood celebrities who want to fit into the “IN” scene, like George Clooney, Chevy Chase, Alec Baldwin, and Brad Pitt, to name a few. I guess they will write songs or act their way through it while getting paid millions, having personal healthcare, and hanging out at the White House with the grinning nincompoop!
August 1st, 2009 at 11:04 pm
Oh yeah, I forgot the Dixie Chicks…
August 2nd, 2009 at 6:31 am
RAR
My Father is an surgeon my uncle is a surgeon and they get patients from Canada and Europe all the time. I aunt’s husband had cousin who lives in Greece who owns a business and he broke his hip and he went hear to ask my dad to give him a hip replacement, because he was told in England he’ll have to wait 6 months for this replacement. Look at Romney care in MA and look how that ended up no doctors,there running out of money,raising taxes,businesses can’t afford to give there employees healthcare,and people are going to NY and PA for there injury’s. Also your talking about doctors not getting paid enough for these people on medicaid and medicare. Well look at it like this the government is not going to pay you what you want. Pelosi and obama right now are saying doctor choice well hears the thing they’ll have doctor choice for the first five years and then they’ll say this is costing way to much we need to get rid of doctor choice and were going to cut doctors pay even more. Also insurance companies can’t compete and employers will say I’m not giving you healthcare anymore, because it’s costing more to give you healthcare than the find. So in the the end we’ll have Socialized medicine the doctors will either quit or just take cash and our doctors will be saying “thank you come again”. So both my dad and uncle are in there early fifties and they have enough money to retire and just rely on the stock they have in there practices building and make 300 thousand dollars a year plus they can just give there medical advise to lawyers. Now my dad always told me the best way to cut healthcare cost and that’s malpractice reform.
August 2nd, 2009 at 7:40 am
I worked in health care for 5 years when I graduated with my undergrad after serving 4 years in the military. I happen to know something about the inefficiencies of both the health care system and the government. Put the 2 together and you get Medicare, which is an absolute mess. So we are to trust the government to take over 20% of the economy? No, thank you.
Cathryn,
I wanted to tell you that I love your writing style. It is hard hitting and very “clean”. You are in my top 5 on the internet. I will probably copy your style and not give you credit, of course.
August 2nd, 2009 at 7:41 am
BTW,
My oldest daugther’s name (9 year old) is Kathryn, named after my great-great grandmother. There are so many different ways to spell that name.
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:39 am
First off anyone who thinks the same government who can’t run postal service correctly can get healthcare right are idiots.
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:58 am
why do you put down the post office? I am pleasantly surprised at how effectively and cheaply I get my regular mail over all these years. Its pretty good, though ups and federal express is my preference for packages. I just wish they would make a forever stamp again that you can buy and use forever.
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:59 am
I really hate weighing in on this subject because too many liberals will agree with me and that alone will make me want to wretch.
I’ve read a few articles on this subject that show that between 30% and 50% of your lifetime health care expenses are in your last six months of life. One article placed it as high as 65%.
Most of these articles used the term “The high cost of dying” which in itself should throw up red flags.
This is a problem that needs to be addressed, if not by Obamacare then by the community as a whole. This country can not afford to spend billions of dollars trying to squeeze out an extra month or two of life for grandma or grandpa.
If the Obama plan is to create a Logan’s Run type scenario where they cut off care after a certain age, then I say it’s wrong. But if a patient is terminal or chronic to the point that they need constant care and have no quality of life, then I say that Hospice, Home Hospice, or palliative care is the way to go.
August 2nd, 2009 at 9:06 am
this is an issue that is going to keep coming up as our population increases and resources get eaten up. Advise renting the movie “Soylant Green” and watch and learn.
August 2nd, 2009 at 9:22 am
Flying,
When you put the government in charge of decision of life and death, you are going down a slippery slope.
Many people, including myself, have living wills that explicity states no extreme measures to keep me alive.
I know, I know. There are lots of people who would like to see me expire today.
August 2nd, 2009 at 9:28 am
I think a sensible part of any retirement planning is to review the movie “Soylant Green”.
August 2nd, 2009 at 9:56 am
Mdefl – I agree that the government shouldn’t be in charge of the decision of life or death which is why I stated: “…if not by Obamacare then by the community as a whole.”
Maybe I made my point poorly but I was speaking about the problem “of the cost of dying” as a whole. Not as prescribed by the Obidiots Health Care Plan.
August 2nd, 2009 at 10:16 am
You know what why don’t we just have free food,free self phones,free movies,free cars,free homes,free ipods,free clothes, and free prostitutes on the highway. That’s why I support the Gold Standard, because it makes it so the Government can’t just keep on printing money.
August 2nd, 2009 at 11:07 am
MSJ you said:
‘There must be plenty of legitimate complaints about the health care proposal in congress. Why make sh*t up?’
ya, why do you make sh*t up? actually, you clearly have NOT read any of the links provided to you in the post as backup support information. i can only assume its because like so many of you libtards, you can’t stomach the thought of The iOne failing.
sad really.
August 2nd, 2009 at 11:10 am
Mdelf thanks so much for the compliment! i choose to think that the ‘clean’ part is not a reference to the vice maroon’s thoughts on obama pre-election but rather a tidy style of posting.
also its a pleasure to have all of you from the late, great HHR with us!
August 2nd, 2009 at 11:12 am
hey flying monkey… i meant no disrespect to you with my reference to ‘flying monkeys’ in the post. heh.
August 2nd, 2009 at 11:19 am
None taken Kate. I used the term often when referring to Hillary Clinton’s campaign staff.