January 22, 2009 UPDATE
New information was released on Wednesday, January 21st in the matter of the State of Florida vs. Casey Marie Anthony. It appears to me that barely a day goes by anymore without us (the public) being inundated with even more tragic news regarding Caylee Anthony.
Florida released over 300 pages of new documents yesterday in compliance with the Freedom Of Information Act. Please remember no matter how much anyone disagrees, Casey Anthony has the presumption of innocence until the state proves its case at trial. That’s very tricky for me, but it’s also how our system works so that victims of violence do receive justice some day.
Sometimes I think we are all the recipients of *too much information*. As sordid as this case has been, I could have gone the rest of my life happily NOT knowing that little Caylee’s body had first (allegedly) been placed in in a laundry hamper before being double bagged in black garbage bags and tossed or placed in the woods, a mere 2-3 minutes from the Anthony home. I could have been equally happy to not know that a heart shaped sticker had been placed (allegedly) on top of the duct tape that covered Caylee’s tiny mouth. The sadistic aspects of this case seem to grow with each passing moment.
The release of taped visits (from last summer) this week, wherein Casey lays claim to victim-hood are beyond offensive, and I now understand the Florida Bar investigating Casey Anthony’s attorney, Jose Baez. Mr. Baez is a victim now, too. He claims he is being mistreated by the State of Florida because he is the first *Hispanic* attorney with a high profile case are, in my opinion, ludicrous and laughable. I have noticed that even those folks 100% convinced that Casey murdered her baby, Caylee, feel that Jose Baez never had control of his client, nor did he represent her best interests. I believe the rumors of a secret, two part production of a TV show to be true, although again I must state that is my opinion only. The money for the alleged dream team of high profile lawyers has to come from somewhere, and we have all witnessed the total lack of concern for Caylee’s body, and now her funeral, from the entire Anthony family. It seems buying Casey the best defense is the only priority. After all, nothing can be done for the deceased, right? Except for possibly burying her!!!
I want all these rumors to be just that … rumors, but I feel as much of the public does … the state has the evidence needed for conviction …. other than proving motive. The rumor that Lee, Casey’s brother, was Caylee’s biological father has not been put to rest (Hence the name Cay-LEE). That would certainly explain her obvious (to me) disdain for this precious little girl.
Right now, I truly wish the state had control of Caylee’s body so she could be laid to rest. Regardless of what is being said, there is no justification for this child’s remains to be sitting in a cardboard box at a funeral home. I also fervently wish that George and Cindy Anthony would review all these tapes through the public eyes of the average citizen. A wake up call is in order, yet no one seems to want to be the one to point this out.
In another sad moment to this never -ending tragedy, George Anthony was taken to a hospital early Friday for allegedly threatening suicide. He was found early this morning in a motel in Volusia County, Fl. Cindy Anthony notified police that George was missing after he failed to show up for a meeting with the family attorney. Having texted his intentions, police were able to use the ping system within the cell towers to locate him. The man has literally been hounded almost to death by a merciless public. Folks seem split on his involvement in Caylee’s murder. I choose to believe he knew nothing about anything Casey did, and while he may have suspected, probably could not let his mind go there.
There are some excellent crime forums on the internet discussing in depth all things related to this case. I recommend Websleuths as the place with the most accurate and up to the minute coverage.
From December 29, 2008
Once again Caylee Anthony’s tragic story consumes the public …. especially the citizen’s of Orlando, Florida. Apparently, the child can’t even get a proper and decent burial with all the hoopla and alleged Anthony antics.
Caylee’s biological parent Casey Anthony has been denied the ability to attend the little girl’s funeral. She is currently held without bond on a murder one charge. It’s no secret Casey and the rest of the Anthony family, George, Cindy & Lee, have been …….. uncooperative, at best. Lee Anthony may yet face obstruction charges. His new attorney Thomas Luka states :
“It’s possible criminal charges could be filed if the state feels that Lee Anthony mislead law enforcement officials or tampered with evidence in any way.”
I’m not sure exactly what it is that irritates me about this case. I understand the presumption of innocence. I appreciate how and why that works in our judicial system. However, I also realize that some crime cases are so bizarre that people like me tend to convict before a trial. Let’s all hope that kind of juror would excuse themselves, so as not to taint the trial, the outcome, the whole system. I could never sit on that jury.
On the other hand, we have folks that cannot see the forest for the trees and make no attempt to do so. They latch on to the innocent mantra early on and refuse to let go, even in the presence of indisputable evidence.
I want to know why. What is it about criminals that allows families and attorneys, among others, to keep their heads in the sand about their client? Does repeating “she’s innocent” over and over make it so? Is someone less guilty because an attorney can argue a bone was misplaced, or a family can offer an alibi? What happened to personal responsibility?
Tonight, the rumors start again. George and Cindy Anthony will have yet another autopsy performed on Caylee after their grandchild’s remains are released. This is not free. Many believe the Anthony family has received large sums of money from the media for Caylee and Casey’s private photos. They are said to have been paid for what was supposed to be a media blitz to garner sympathy for daughter Casey, but that tour ended abruptly with the remains of tiny Caylee being found within hours of their being on Larry King Live.
You might recall a bag with her remains was found by Roy Kronk on December 11,2008 …. in the vicinity of the Anthony home. Now former Anthony attorney Mark Nejame has offered a $5000.00 reward to Roy. Seems we don’t trust anyone to do anything for the right reasons anymore.
Initially the Anthonys were going to have a private and public memorial for Caylee and were willing to accept donations for the tiny tot’s funeral. Far better to pour money into Casey’s defense and Jose Baez’ dream team than fork over about 6k for a funeral! For some pithy reason, the public became upset with that, and the backlash was such that the Anthonys publicly stated they will accept no donations for the funeral. That was last week.
Now it’s being said they are again seeking funds for the funeral. The uber rich dream team can’t come up with 6k between them, to help their clients out? My biggest problem with the Anthonys right now are these delays in the burial of their murdered granddaughter. I buried a beautiful grandchild 8 years ago, and no, I didn’t want to. I wanted to delay the inevitable … forever if possible. I didn’t want this so called closure, either. But my grandson’s parents were in such shock, such pain, I had to be the adult and do it. Period. Note to Anthonys … get over yourselves and do the right darn thing for once!
Caylee’s name is being added to that ever growing list. You know the one! It lists Polly Klaas, Jon-Benet Ramsey and too many other murdered children. Most of us cannot fathom the reasons behind murdered children, and we don’t want to. But we do want justice for each of them, and our frustrations manifest in inappropriate ways when we see the way the alleged criminals and their lawyers use every trick invented, and some not yet thought of, to make sure their client goes free. Even while knowing that said client is guilty as hell.
The Anthonys … all of them, seemingly want us to believe that Caylee was kidnapped and murdered by some non existent nanny. We are to believe that the various police agencies could not be trusted with the *real* truth. One of Judge Judy’s best quotes is “Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining”, and that is what the Anthony family needs to hear. Repeatedly.
With all my heart, I hope the rumors of soliciting donations for Caylee Marie Anthony’s funeral are false. Even more, I hope that the Anthony’s “standing by their daughter” will include getting her to accept responsibility, tell the truth, and let’s be done with this tragedy.










December 30th, 2008 at 12:54 am
well said, and thank you.
December 30th, 2008 at 1:22 am
I agree, well said. I keep thinking one day I am going to wake up and the Anthony’s (all of them) will wake up from their self-involved fairytale-(aka lie)-filled drama, and get over themselves and do the right thing. At least they have said they have no plans to visit their daughter in jail. The dawning of some insight? Only time will tell………..
December 30th, 2008 at 2:36 am
I find it ironic that the world is captivated by the death of 1 child when 1 MILLION babies are murdered EACH YEAR by abortion.
I guess its hard to get attached to a photo of a fetus. Oh well
December 30th, 2008 at 5:15 am
Well said, my thought along the same line. Another thought, I feel on one hand Casey should not be allowed at the funeral and on the other hand, maybe she should be forced to sit through it with photos of her child all over the place. I also feel they should force her to see the remains and all photos taken when her little remains were found. As far as the PI taking photos of the site where she was found, what do we think he was doing in that same spot and exactly proven when was he really there? How did he know to look at that site? Did they know this is where she dumped her child as if she was a broken doll? This sick and demented family has real issues that should be dealt with sternly. Obstruction is one thing but covering for an evil and wicked daughter who murdered her own child is worse than covering for the devil. Grannie giving the wrong hair brush and the dogs toothbrush told me what I needed to know, she was covering then and she is covering now. They do not have my sympathy, I am sure they grieve for the child but not in the way most of us would have. Another thought, are they truly in grief for the loss of the child or do they grieve that someone was caught for the murder? What is Lee covering up? He is as wicked as the rest and I think that George knows what happened, just too whipped by Cindy to say it. This occurred during the taped interviews with the FBI, it is obvious that he thinks Casey murdered her child. Grannie Cindy is as big a liar as her daughter, this was taught to Casey as a way to live, therefore, look what we got! It is time for them all to come clean and face the music, just lock the whole darn family up for lifetime and see that they don’t have a cushy experience while incarcerated, hard work and more hard work and daily programming of the face and voice of that precious baby girl running through speakers in their cells at full blast. Maybe they would all hang themselves and save us the trouble. I’d even supply the darn rope!
December 30th, 2008 at 5:56 am
amen!
December 30th, 2008 at 6:38 am
I’ve noticed that in cases where one of the family members are related to law enforcement the case always tend to be extraordinarily complicated and almost a stalemate
Drew Peterson- ex cop.
Joran Vandersloot- dads a judge.
And then theres Caseys father.
December 30th, 2008 at 7:36 am
Murder is murder. Whether it is a fetus or a toddler, to kill a defenseless child is just beyond words. We are not suppose to kill our children. I love all of mine and I would sooner hurt or kill you if you were messing with any of them or my grand-babies.
What goes on in one’s mind that makes them kill their child? I have never been that anger at anyone. Perhaps it is not anger but something is wrong when this happens. She may not have done the deed but she knows who did and helped covered it up.
We have allowed God to be taken out of most of our culture. So there is no moral truth for people. God creates life, marriage, love and even sex.
We have changed from Gods’ view to a broken world view of right and wrong.
December 30th, 2008 at 7:38 am
I couldn’t have said it better myself.
This whole time I’ve been hoping and praying that some miracle would happen and little Caylee would come home alive. In my heart I knew that wasn’t the case though.
This family knew it as well. No one can tell me they didn’t. They wanted to put doubt out there and their child killer daughter would be free to come home.
They never cared about Caylee. I bet they know a LOT more then they are letting on.
Weren’t they supposed to give some kind of press conference to explain why they believe Caylee is alive? Then suddenly this “sighting” of Caylee came up and they completely forgot about telling us why. I wanted to know why they thought she was alive & if you truly had information that could help bring your granddaughter home…..don’t you think you would say something regardless of a “sighting”.
Personally I would still tell people why so maybe they would really take a look around rather then assume she was dead.
Everything about this family is strange and kind of sick. How can you stand behind your daughter who REFUSES to help the police.
I can get over the waiting for a month to report her missing if she was at least being helpful. People panic in situations like that and everyone deals differently, but HELP FIND YOUR CHILD!!!
The Anthony’s have really ruined my faith in good people. How do you protect a grown adult (who didn’t have a problem bringing a child into this world) lie and hide the truth about a missing baby. Caylee is a baby. Why don’t they want to protect that baby???
I don’t care if its my own child, my mother, my grandmother…..when it comes to a missing baby you give all information necessary to help.
After all Casey has lied about they still all back her. She has even made claims that her own brother has made inappropriate advances towards her and yet he’s willing to spend time in jail to help her out???
She lies and steals from her own family & they protect her rather then trying to help Caylee. Its sick and twisted and they do not deserve to ever live a normal happy life again. If Caylee doesn’t get to live her life I don’t think they should be allowed to live theirs.
December 30th, 2008 at 7:46 am
I guess some parents can’t face the truth about their child …well they need to get over it and put that baby to rest …
December 30th, 2008 at 7:47 am
Does anyone know if the lady who took the Anthony trash that was sitting by the curb kept the actual bag the trash was in?
December 30th, 2008 at 7:57 am
Klaasend’s video on youtube shows a cell ping timeline.
June 17 cps(cell pings) 2:30pm-2:45pm Chelsea Harbor Area; two wooded locations; talking to DRF
June 28 cps(cell pings) 8:54am Amscot Area, checking on car? Txting RM, Enjoli, calling DRF
State Witness List shows a Deputy Rendon Fletcher, and he wasn’t the same guy who was recently terminated from the force.
Wondering who DRF is?
December 30th, 2008 at 8:01 am
Thank You for finally saying what I have wanted to say for so long!
December 30th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
WOW—very well said!!!! Wish your comments could be forwarded straight to The Anthony’s mailbox/inbox, for them to read.
December 30th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Your grandbaby, and your own child(ren), are blessed to have you! In contrast, I suspect the Anthony world, and thereby little Caylee’s now passed ‘earthly world’, is one twisted in ways none of us have even imagined–or want to…
December 30th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
I have followed this case from the beginning. It is similar to the horrible circumstances that brought my child to me. I adopted her 18 yrs. ago, shortly after she was born. Her mother was deemed unfit by DCFS and her children placed into the “system” after a tragedy.
My child’s mother reminds me of Casey Anthony. Her mother returned home from work (night shift) and when she heard no movement, checked on her daughter and her daughter’s toddler. She found the baby stiff and blue in his crib. She awakened his mother and they rushed the baby to the hospital. The baby was pronounced dead. The child’s mother acted as if she had no idea what happened. The doctor asked them if they had heat in their home. The grandmother answered yes, asked why. The doctor told her the baby had frozen to death! They looked to the mom. She swore she had no idea what happened. The police were called.
After telling one lie after another, the mother was charged with child neglect. No one could figure out what happened.
It was winter time in Chicago. The mother finally told this story: she had placed him in an abandoned car in a garage behind an abandoned building because she had to go to work and had no sitter. When she got back from work ten hours later, she thought he was asleep, took him home, and put him to bed, then she went to bed.
The problem(s) with the story were: she had gotten fired months before from the job at the newspaper that she claimed she had to go to; the day his happened, her sister had asked to keep the child and the mother said no she had to take him to the sitter(it was discovered that there had never been a sitter, she had been placing the child in the car for a long period of time); the doctor said it would have been no doubt that the child was dead when she took him from the car; large amounts of codeine was found in the child’s system, the mom used it to knock him out before leaving him.
The court found her guilty of manslaughter. She got four months in prison. Years later the grandmother confided in me that her daughter had killed the child on purpose because she was angry at his father, she overheard a loud argument on the phone that day before she left the house. The grandmother never revealed that to the police. She stood by her daughter throughout the proceedings and after.
Watching the Anthony case unfold is eerie. I see that child knocked out in the car trunk, which is where she probably placed her often when no one can account for her whereabouts. She may have overdosed her, or the baby suffocated from the heat or she killed her intentionally to spite Cindy. I doubt if Casey will ever tell the truth about it.
December 30th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Unfortunately, most people can became a mother or father, but not many can become parents.
December 30th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Obviously this group of bloggers fails to understand the law with respect to the Anthony family hiring their own attorneys in this matter. Regardless of the outcome of this tragic case, or whether Casey is found guilty or not, ALL of the FACTS in this case have not yet been presented. There are court rules regarding the release of certain kinds of evidence BEFORE the case goes to trial so as not to taint any potential jurors. And because the press has already “pre-convicted” Casey in the media, many of you have already done the same. There’s nothing wrong with this of course. Everyone is entitled to their opinion after all. But it’s important to hear both sides of the story before jumping to premature conclusions, and both sides of the story have not yet been presented, just as it should be, because this case has not yet gone to trial. Go ahead and pre-convict if you choose. I’m just saying that, based on the evidence so far, there hasn’t been anything conclusive to prove “beyond a reasonable doubt” that Casey murdered her daughter.
December 30th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Reasonable doubt belongs in a courtroom…. it’s a legal concept. Even then plenty of murderers and other monsters are acquitted on legal technicalities.
The ONLY innocent person in all this is Caylee Anthony. The rest of her family are liars &/or enablers. These 3 should be ashamed of themselves.
December 30th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
first time writer here. i think you all have good points, but no matter who found the child’s remains, who videotaped the spot, the fact remains that this child’s mother did not report her missing and went partying for the entire time she was missing. whatever was going on in the anthony home, casey felt more justified in sedating her child so she could party then leave her at home with her parents. Why? because she is spiteful! She was 22 and was just busting to go out and party like others her age, her only problem was the child.
So she sedated the child, prob lots of time, but one time something went wrong. her nanny was whatever sedative she gave that child.
cindy and george know this is true but they can’t get their heads around it because unlike Casey, they actually loved the child.
This is Susan Smith all over again. Casey must actually believe
that if she sticks to her story, she will be vindicated. It would be
a sad day if she walked on this crime and I pray that her family
will do the right thing. If they choose not to, they have to live with it for the rest of their lives. So Casey will have ruined five lives all because she wanted to party.
makes no sense to me. seems like their should be a law, when a child is involved, that allows the police to administer sodium pent to the suspect. if they are clean, let them go, if not, release them
to gen pop. i would put her in gen pop anyway. that might smack those “absolutelys” right off her repetoir.
December 30th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
Tam asks a very good question about the lady who got the trashbag. I’d imagine that the lady would’ve surfaced by now, she was so interested in the case.
Meanwhile, Alan is bringing up the reasonable doubt issue. Some people think that because Casey blamed everything on Zani the Nanny, and the prosecution cannot definitively rule out every Zaneida F-G on earth, and Casey doesn’t have to ever open her mouth to explain anything ever again, that there will be reasonable doubt all the way to the end.
Think about it. The prosecution could prove that Casey wrapped duct tape around Caylee’s head and then suffocated her with her own 2 hands, and the defense could shrug this off and say that Zani the Nanny was holding a gun to Casey’s head. According to Alan, this might automatically mean “reasonable doubt” and Casey goes free.
Fortunately, there’s a huge difference between “beyond a reasonable doubt” and “beyond the shadow of a doubt.” Beyond a reasonable doubt doesn’t have to go as far as beyond the shadow of a doubt. The jury is allowed to look across the room at Casey, view the videotapes of her conversations, consider the evidence in the car, on the computers, and whatever else the prosecutors have, and yes, be convinced like all of us out here that Casey Anthony committed murder in the first degree.
December 30th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
Excellent and refreshing. I thought I was existing in an alternate universe with what the Anthony family has made of this whole case. Unreal. Thanks for your breath of fresh air on something that royally stinks!
December 30th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
I would be a great juror as the case is so fantastical, so hard to fathom, that I just find it hard to understand yet what happened or who was involved. The people’s personalities sure stand out, but what are the real facts of the case and how can this be? Nonplussed plussed.
December 31st, 2008 at 9:44 am
Is not it possible that Casey Anthony really did give her daughter to some “nanny” who then took off with Caylee, threatening Casey that if she says anything to anyone about it, her daughter would be killed? Again, I’m not saying Casey Anthony is innocent, nor am I neglecting her party-hearty behavior after Caylee’s disappearance and subsequent lies to the police. I’m just saying that the only reason that would explain her behavior would be that she was afraid of what might happen to Caylee. I have seen many attractive, young, single mothers out “partying”…many of whom do so as a way to relieve the stress and loneliness of raising a small child on their own. They feel their lives are over if they don’t “get out there” and, hopefully, meet someone who can “rescue” them. You can judge women like this all you want, but the truth is it’s hard to be a single mother in this day and age, especially when it wasn’t planned. At least give such mothers credit for not having abortions. While “partying” like Casey did after her daughter’s disappearance may be unusual, consider that it may have been her way to “cope” or “escape” if someone had threatened Caylee’s life if Casey reported her as missing. Yes, I know it’s a stretch, but it is the ONLY explanation that would make some semblance of sense. And, remember, just as many murderers have been acquitted in a court of law, there have also been innocent victims who have been falsely accused and wrongly convicted of murders they did NOT commit. So it goes both ways. Therefore, until ALL the evidence is properly presented at trial, I think it’s wise to reserve judgement in this case. If anything, it only makes finding a jury that much more difficult because they’ve heard too many people “pre-convicting” Casey Anthony. We all know there’s plenty of circumstantial evidence that points to Casey’s guilt, but what we don’t know is what she has that supports her claim that the last time she saw Caylee was when she was with the nanny. And BTW, why is it everyone says there’s no Zenaida Gonzales when there obviously is. She’s suing Casey for defamation, even though she’s unlikely to get any money from Casey.
December 31st, 2008 at 10:20 am
Oh please don’t go whining about how hard single parenthood is…most of us are aware it’s not a cakewalk. However, the solution would be to go back to raising kids to have morals, i.e. keep your freakin’ legs crossed or your zipper zipped. Every hot to trot person out there is aware pregnancy can result from promiscuous ways. Casey had it easy compared to many single moms…those that actually work, try to do the right thing by their baby.
We have become a nation of *justifiers*, excuse makers and it need not be that way if we get back to God, family and values.
There are many Zanny’s out there…however in Casey world, Zanny means xanax. And chloroform. Told ya I’d be a lousy juror.
December 31st, 2008 at 11:01 am
Joanne, what does your response have to do with the possibility that Casey could be innocent? I was in no way justifying anything. I was simply pointing out another perspective as it pertains to Casey’s partying behavior after her daughter disappeared. I agree that Casey had it easy compared to other moms (who actually work, try to do the right thing by their baby, etc.). I agree that getting back to God, family and values. However, none of us is perfect and therefore we all fall short of the Glory of God. In Casey’s case, however, you’ve judged her without hearing all the evidence that will be presented at trial. Indeed, most of the public seems to have pre-convicted her based on third-party information from the media that has yet to prove conclusive. I deal in truth based on facts and evidence that prove it. I don’t deal with perceptions based on nothing more than hearsay and third-party information from those I’ve never met.