Video and transcript of the 1st presidential debate between John McCain and Barack Obama in Mississippi appears below when available. Meanwhile, enjoy an open thread to discuss the debate between the two presidential candidates. The time of the debate is 9pm EST.
Who won? Who lost? Is the Obama-McCain debate canceled?
John McCain rose above politics this week to put the country first. His historic call for both campaigns to suspend operations while the two Senators answer the President’s call to help manage the economic crisis is unprecedented. The debate might have been canceled or postponed, but do not bet on it.
Barack Obama did agree to return to Washington DC, although it was not his first choice to concede the idea to John McCain. Images of the President’s meeting show Obama at the end of the table with his shoulders sunken and disengaged, seemingly a young man among competent others. The striking pose is something that Obama’s handlers will want to erase from public memory as the aspiring president did not look presidential in the face of crisis.
The Obama campaign tells us that Obama has been cramming hard to memorize his answers to potential foreign policy questions, the purported topic of the first debate in Mississippi. Obama’s handlers were encouraged that his law school training was enabling him to cram successfully for the test of a lifetime in which 30 second sound-bytes are enough to get by.
The economic crisis has thrown the Obama campaign off axis. They do not now know if the debate will be held to foreign policy, or economic issues for which Obama is unprepared to answer. The apparent strategy is to insist that the debate is curtailed to the agreed upon topic, whether or not the market crashes on Friday.
On the McCain side, the campaign believes that they have suddenly seized the upper hand on the economic issue. Whether or not John McCain’s magnanimous bid to rise above politics is ultimately successful, the campaign believes that the public will view his selfless role positively. At least he is trying, whereas according to campaign wisdom, Obama is studying for a debate while avoiding the central issue.
We can report that John McCain will appear at the debate. The announcement will come on Friday in the late afternoon to keep Obama off his game. McCain will insist that the debate focus on economics rather than foreign policy, which everyone concedes is McCain’s greatest strength. John McCain will put country first, and the campaign believes that is a win-win strategy.
Obama McCain Debate (Video)
This is a placeholder video which will be updated after the presidential debate.









September 26th, 2008 at 2:53 am
McCain Obama Presidential Debate…
We will be covering the first presidential debate in Mississippi tonight. The video and a transcript of the debate between presidential candidates, John McCain and Barack Obama will be included on this post when they become available.
McCain Obama Deb…
September 26th, 2008 at 3:51 am
The 1992 Presidential Debates with Ross Perot were not dull. His warnings have now come true. Replace John McCain with Ron Paul. Add Ralph Nader and Cynthia McKinney. Barack Obama must earn his victory, not win by default.
September 26th, 2008 at 6:16 am
“They do not now know if the debate will be held to foreign policy, or economic issues for which Obama is unprepared to answer.”
Don’t count on it. He’ll be ready.
September 26th, 2008 at 8:12 am
Sorry, I don’t normally post on random forums that I stumble upon while reading the news, but I couldn’t help myself. Whoever wrote the “news” article that we are responding to here shows such breathtaking stupidity and willingness to suck the schlong of Republican authority that I, frankly, feel like abandoning my American citizenship and taking up with a brighter population somewhere. (Insert “go ahead, then” comment here; there, I’ve made it for you.) So McCain thinks that pretending to swoop in and “save the day” so that average Americans aren’t bailing out Wall Street fat cats can make up for decades of Republican-led neglect and deregulation? Preposterous. The hypocrisy of the Republican establishment has never been more evident. The original Paulson plan was a mess–we ALL know this. But it’s hilarious for the ‘Pubs to show up NOW and pretend to be the party of the little guy. Right, John. The Republicans only care about people in the Midwest and the South as long as they tend to get hot and bothered about where other men put their penises. Trust me, Republican voters who make less than $100,000 a year–you WILL be hung out to dry once your vote has been collected.
September 26th, 2008 at 8:17 am
it will be interesting to hear obama’s memorized answers after spending 3 days at debate camp.
cool pic mccain.
September 26th, 2008 at 8:58 am
The debate will go on. We shall see. Obama has been gaining, McCain falling behind. This could cement it for Obama if McCain stumbles. We’ll probably see more desperate acts from the McCain campaign, if Obama’s edge gets even larger. It hurts to see politics played with the current financial crisis, but what should we expect? After all the shenanigans of the past eight years? No one cares about you and me. I don’t know who you are MCCAIN, but they don’t care about you, either.
September 26th, 2008 at 9:30 am
Seth,
“taking up with a brighter population somewhere”
Make sure to post here the name of the country/city/community once you find one, please. Don’t know about others, but I’d be curious to check out such oddity. I haven’t found one myself, by the way.
September 26th, 2008 at 9:41 am
Ed, I don’t want government to “care about me.” I want government to get out of my way so I can care about myself and my neighbors. You have stumbled upon the central difference between liberal and libertarian governing philosophies.
September 26th, 2008 at 9:44 am
“Whoever wrote the “newsâ€? article that we are responding to here shows such breathtaking stupidity and willingness to suck the schlong of Republican authority that I, frankly, feel like abandoning my American citizenship and taking up with a brighter population somewhere. (Insert “go ahead, thenâ€? comment here; there, I’ve made it for you.) ”
Hmmm…
Seth, I have better idea than just saying “go ahead” I know some female republicans that would go down on you if it meant you would leave.
September 26th, 2008 at 10:21 am
McCain getting back into the debate is a purely political move, like everything else he does… he just thought thought not showing up to the debates would make him look bad
September 26th, 2008 at 11:07 am
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Ed, I don’t want government to “care about me.� I want government to get out of my way so I can care about myself and my neighbors. You have stumbled upon the central difference between liberal and libertarian governing philosophies.
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The present economic disaster shows exactly what happens when government gets out of the way too much, and the only solution apparently found by the Republican administration (that, by the way, has shared your philosophy until now) is to very much get in the way. To get in the way, to put it bluntly, to the tune of 700 BILLION bucks.
You guys keep talking as though “the government” were some kind of evil empire. We the people are the government, and as long as you expect me to hold the bag when the likes of you f*ck up big time, then I bloody well want to have a say in the way things are being run. It’s for this reason that I vote to elect someone to do this for me.
Daniel
September 26th, 2008 at 11:17 am
First of all, Daniel, why does an Englishman living in France care about our election, and why are you pretending that you hold the bag for something here and can vote?
Regardless, there is a necessary role for government including oversight of financial institutions. Market regulations have nothing to do with “caring for people.” It has to do with correcting market inefficiencies.
Now get back on this topic of this thread, the presidential debate tonight, or go find our thread on Lying for Obama.
September 26th, 2008 at 11:31 am
I’m getting flashbacks to three weeks ago. Last time the polls showed a lead for Obama, and there were doubts raised about McCain’s unconvetional tactics (selection of Sarah Palin), he was proven right by Palin’s electrifying speech.
It’s a similar situation. All eyes are on him after a controversial move. I suspect he has a big surprise in store for us.
September 26th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Trailer for Barack Obama The Movie. Check it out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4p1G3r0948
September 26th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
whoops, “debate skills” not “debate schools.” sorry.
September 26th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Lol @ government getting out of the way and causing the financial crisis. This crisis was started because Frank/Dodd et. al. loosened credit restrictions to the point of non-existence. If the free market had been allowed to act, i.e. banks making risk assessment based upon credit worthiness and true collateral, we would not be in this mess. Instead, Democrats wanted “low income housing” (read minority housing ownership) for all Americans, consequences be damned.
I love it when the libs pretend they have anything close to a basic understanding of the economy, hilarity.
September 26th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Now wait just a second. “Frank/Dodd et. al. loosened credit restrictions to the point of non-existence.” Aren’t you talking about lifting previoiusly imposed government regulation? What restrictions are you talking about?
Liberals did push for more low-income housing. But they weren’t forcing banks to offer loans against their better business judgment. They were *allowing* them to lend despite their better judgment by deregulating. Right?
September 26th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
First of all, Daniel, why does an Englishman living in France care about our election, and why are you pretending that you hold the bag for something here and can vote?
Englishman? YOUR election? I am an American citizen who happens to live abroad. This is very much my election, especially as I still do have a residence in the US. However, if you were familiar with anything other than the tiny corner of your world (ever been abroad? Ever owned a passport? Ever experienced anything other than the environment you were born into?), you’d know that even US citizens who live abroad have to file a tax return and, assuming that their income is high enough, pay taxes. So yes, I pay, and not because I am filthy rich, but because the American currency is so bleeding week that even a normal salary earned in euros comes out very high when converted into US dollars. And yes, I vote. You have heard of absentee ballots, perhaps? My goodness, a Sherlock Holmes you sure ain’t. Bet you were oh-so proud having found out that I live in France, right? It’s not a secret. In contrast to those running this web site, you included, I don’t hide behind some bogus identity. I’m here: http://wwww.kiechle.com and I stand behind my opinions. Then again, if had yours, I might not.
Regardless, there is a necessary role for government including oversight of financial institutions. Market regulations have nothing to do with “caring for people.� It has to do with correcting market inefficiencies.
I never said that this part was about caring for people, even though some of it is. And 700 billion is a hell of a lot of market inefficiency correction! Market regulations are government getting in the way, the exact opposite you claim you want. Oh, wait, of course, it’s a matter of degree, right? And to think you guys called Kerry a flip-flopper…
Now get back on this topic of this thread, the presidential debate tonight, or go find our thread on Lying for Obama.
I was responding to your off-topic statement, though frankly, I don’t know why I bother. It seems a rather lost cause, but, as they say, hope springs eternal…
Daniel
September 26th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Yea, the libs let Fanny and Freddy come to the conclusion that they could write whatever kind of paper they want and no matter what the outcome, if needed they would be bailed out.
“you expect me to hold the bag when the likes of you f*ck up big time”
Ummm… I’ve never missed a payment on my mortgage, you’re not lumping me in with all the idiots who caused this by buying more house than they could afford, are you ?
September 26th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Yes, in a manner of speaking they were forced to make bad loans. Freddie/Fannie are no different then student loans in the sense that if the borrower defaults on them, the government is going to back them up. That is why Wells Fargo, or whoever, will loan anyone money if it is backed by Stafford Loan protections, there is zero risk. Either the borrower is going to pay Wells back, or the government is.
Fannie/Freddie plays the same role, they told banks, go ahead and make risky loans, because even if they are defaulted on, we are going to guarantee them and buy them up. Voila, no risk.
September 26th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
If you want to read more about the Cuomo connection as HUD secretary, see here:
http://law.rightpundits.com/?p=71
September 26th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
BTW, ever tried to get an FHA loan? There are almost no requirements, including no money down. Heck, if I don’t have to put any money down, I have no security interest in the house and if things get tough, I just walk away. I don’t really loose anything except some mortgage payments that I likely would have made in rent payments anyway.
Now, imagine if the bank required you to put 10% down (15 years ago it was nearly impossible to get a home loan without putting 10% down). Now I, as the borrower, have to think twice before I walk out on that mortgage. I might be loosing 20k or more.
September 26th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Bryan, I see that logic. And I won’t pretend to know more than I do- I’m not an expert here. If what happened happened as you described, then pumping up Freddie/Fannie back then was a huge mistake. But that doesn’t make me irrational for supporting Obama. First of all, Democrats haven’t controlled Congress until recently. They do not bear sole responsibility. Second, the McCain Palin ticket is a complete circus. I cannot see them pulling us out of this mess. Palin is in so far over her head that most Dem women have actually started to feel sorry for her.
September 26th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
My third reason is my confidence in Obama’s judgment, which I omitted because I knew you’d just lampoon it, but on second thought, I don’t care. Obama has demonstrated he’s a more level-headed, intelligent individual than McCain- now more than ever.
September 26th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
I wasn’t really making a connection to Obama, just stating a fact. If you think Obama is more level-headed and capable to lead, good on ya. I think your crazy, but good on ya