Obama has been caught in a series of lies about his stances on various issues. The most recent are his lies on his stance on abortion. He is rapidly falling from the lofty heights he’s so enjoyed. Read about it below and see videos of his various conflicting statements.
Obama seems to love to stand in front of huge crowds of people and soak in their adulation. Unfortunately for him, the less he is able to stand up and wax philosophic and the more he is having to answer specific questions, the more we are seeing Obama naked metaphorically.
In the last day or two he’s been hoisted on his own petard by his abysmal attempts to appear to be more of a centrist than the radical far left Marxist his history and voting record would indicate that he is. In particular, he’s been cornered on his abortion lies. Right Pundits has written about Obama’s abortion policy before.
What’s a politician to do when he has been sitting in a Black Liberation Theology church for 20 plus years, associating with known communists, terrorists, radical American haters and felons convicted of political corruption. It would all be well and good except when that politician decides to run for President and needs the Middle American Bible thumping xenophobes who cling to their guns to vote for him. Then he can’t let people know who he really is so better the big crowds than taking the chance he might have to speak off the cuff without a script.
That’s what happened to him at the Saddleback Civil Forum, after all. In that forum he had a heck of a time giving straight answers to straight questions.
When asked about abortion in front of a Christian audience at that forum, he dodged the question by saying it was ‘above his pay grade’ and then continued in a philosophical vein about how he is pro-choice because he believes that will reduce abortions by reducing unwanted pregnancies. He went off on that tangent without ever really answering when a baby has the right to basic human rights.
However, he DID state that he did not favor late term abortions unless the mother’s health was at risk.
Unfortunately for him, that statement is in direct conflict with statements he has made throughout his political career and with his voting record. When his opponents brought up his record, he accused them of lying. But the evidence is clear that it is Obama who is trying to lie about his record and beliefs.
Here, in his own words, he argues for infanticide. He argues that doctors helping a baby born alive after a botched abortion puts a burden on the would-be mother. This is his argument against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act at the Illinois state legislature in April of 2002.
Obama Naked – Video
And who can forget how he described a baby as a ‘punishment’. He states he wouldn’t want his daughters ‘punished’ with a baby if they make a mistake ….
Obama Naked – Video
And lets not forget about Jill Stanek. She’s the registered nurse who sat in a soiled linen closet and held a tossed aside baby while it died. One of those baby’s that would be a burden or a punishment to the mother that didn’t want it. She testified about seeing babies born and then set aside and left to die. She testified in front of Obama about this issue twice and before the U.S. Congress in support of the Born Alive Infant Protection Act.
Obama’s response was indifferent to the viable babies Stanek discussed. As has been his consistent pattern, he spoke of the burden the unwanted child would put on the mother.
At the end of the hearing, according to the official records of the Illinois State senate, Obama thanked Stanek for being “very clear and forthright,�? but said his concern was that Stanek had suggested “doctors really don’t care about children who are being born with a reasonable prospect of life because they are so locked into their pro-abortion views that they would watch an infant that is viable die.�? He told her, “That may be your assessment, and I don’t see any evidence of that. What we are doing here is to create one more burden on a woman and I can’t support that.�?
I don’t really believe that Roe vs. Wade is going to be overturned. I do believe that reason needs to prevail in this emotionally charged debate. At what point DOES the rights of a human baby become as much of a concern as the wishes of a would-be mother? At what point in time is that baby deserving of basic human rights?
However the debates ebb and flow over what point a soul enters the fetus, I find it hard to believe that a reasonable person would perceive a viable living infant as nothing but aborted tissue. A tumor that’s been removed that needs to be disposed of. At what point do we become a society in danger of losing basic human empathy for the most fragile and vulnerable among us?
Who can criticize doctors for caring for an infant born alive that was intended to be aborted? Apparently, Barack Obama can.
Obama lies and babies die.









August 22nd, 2008 at 5:28 am
Let’s look at McCain’s flip-flops. Seems he says anything his current audience wants to hear:
* McCain supported the drilling moratorium; now he’s against it.
* McCain strongly opposes a windfall-tax on oil company profits. Three weeks earlier, he was perfectly comfortable with the idea.
* McCain thought Bush’s warrantless-wiretap program circumvented the law; now he believes the opposite.
* McCain defended “privatizing� Social Security. Now he says he’s against privatization (though he actually still supports it.)
Wait, I’m not done with the last two weeks yet….
* McCain wanted to change the Republican Party platform to protect abortion rights in cases of rape and incest. Now he doesn’t.
* McCain thought the estate tax was perfectly fair. Now he believes the opposite.
* He opposed indefinite detention of terrorist suspects. When the Supreme Court reached the same conclusion, he called it “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.�
* McCain said he would “not impose a litmus test on any nominee.� He used to promise the opposite.
And these come after these other reversals from April and May:
* McCain believes the telecoms should be forced to explain their role in the administration’s warrantless surveillance program as a condition for retroactive immunity. He used to believe the opposite.
* McCain supported storing spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Now he believes the opposite.
* McCain supported moving “towards normalization of relations� with Cuba. Now he believes the opposite.
* McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Hamas. Now he believes the opposite.
* McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Syria. Now he believes the opposite.
* He argued the NRA should not have a role in the Republican Party’s policy making. Now he believes the opposite.
* McCain supported his own lobbying-reform legislation from 1997. Now he doesn’t.
* He wanted political support from radical televangelists like John Hagee and Rod Parsley. Now he doesn’t.
* McCain supported the Lieberman/Warner legislation to combat global warming. Now he doesn’t.
* McCain is both for and against a “rogue state rollback� as a focus of his foreign policy vision.
* McCain says he considered and did not consider joining John Kerry’s Democratic ticket in 2004.
* In 1998, he championed raising cigarette taxes to fund programs to cut underage smoking, insisting that it would prevent illnesses and provide resources for public health programs. Now, McCain opposes a $0.61-per-pack tax increase, won’t commit to supporting a regulation bill he’s co-sponsoring, and has hired Philip Morris’ former lobbyist as his senior campaign adviser.
* McCain has changed his economic worldview on multiple occasions.
* McCain has changed his mind about a long-term U.S. military presence in Iraq on multiple occasions.
* McCain is both for and against attacking Barack Obama over his former pastor at his former church.
* McCain believes Americans are both better and worse off than they were before Bush took office.
* McCain is both for and against earmarks for Arizona.
* McCain believes his endorsement from radical televangelist John Hagee was both a good and bad idea.
* McCain’s first mortgage plan was premised on the notion that homeowners facing foreclosure shouldn’t be “rewarded� for acting “irresponsibly.� His second mortgage plan took largely the opposite position.
* McCain vowed, if elected, to balance the federal budget by the end of his first term. Soon after, he decided he would no longer even try to reach that goal.
* In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.
* McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even volunteering to testify on the treaty’s behalf before a Senate committee. Now he opposes it.
* McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants’ kids who graduate from high school. Now he’s against it.
* On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own legislation.
* In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after receiving “feedback� on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he opposes his own measure.
* McCain said before the war in Iraq, “We will win this conflict. We will win it easily.� Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was “probably going to be long and hard and tough.�
* McCain said he was the “greatest critic� of Rumsfeld’s failed Iraq policy. In December 2003, McCain praised the same strategy as “a mission accomplished.� In March 2004, he said, “I’m confident we’re on the right course.� In December 2005, he said, “Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course.�
* McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade to saying the exact opposite.
* McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed, to saying gay marriage shouldn’t be allowed.
* McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as “an agent of intolerance� in 2002, but then decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans “deserved� the 9/11 attacks.
* McCain used to oppose Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.
* On a related note, he said 2005 that he opposed the tax cuts because they were “too tilted to the wealthy.� By 2007, he denied ever having said this, and insisted he opposed the cuts because of increased government spending.
* In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending “dirty money� to help finance Bush’s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.
* McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June 2007, he abandoned his own legislation.
* McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr., before he supported it.
* McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.
* McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol.
* McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.
* McCain decided in 2000 that he didn’t want anything to do with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, believing he “would taint the image of the ‘Straight Talk Express.’� Kissinger is now the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York.
August 22nd, 2008 at 6:40 am
hi pete!
come here and let me smack you. this isn’t about mccain silly. don’t deflect with bo talking points simply because you have nothing to say to infanticide.
what can anyone really say?
August 22nd, 2008 at 7:49 am
Well, when your in politics since the early 1980s, you have time to revise your position on things, people do change after all. However, the sheer number of flip-flops or simply taking both sides of the issue that Obama has exhibited is frightening, for someone who has been in federal politics for 2 whole years.
August 22nd, 2008 at 8:15 am
Bryan, the McCain of 2000 wouldn’t support the McCain of 2008.
Let’s focus on the topic at hand – Abortion. In 2000 John McCain said he wanted to change the GOP platform to support abortion in the case of rape or incest. In 2008, he opposes such a change.
How are we to know what he actually stands for if no position is safe from flip-flopping? Folks like Beth have fooled themselves into thinking that he’s ardently opposed to abortion, yet the reality is that he’s previously expressed a view that abortion should be allowed in certain cases.
How does one morally square a belief that abortion is the killing of a live baby with the view that it’s ok to kill live babies if they were bred via incest or rape?
Does McCain think it’s OK to kill born people who were conceived via rape or incest? If not, how do you correlate his recently stated view that life begins at conception with his past statements that he supports the killing of fetuses conceived via rape or incest?
These should be troubling questions for any McCain supporter, except of course for those who are easily fooled into believing whatever he “currently” says is his view.
August 22nd, 2008 at 8:16 am
BTW, on April 14th, 2007, McCain reaffirmed his desire to change the GOP plank to allow abortion in the case of rape, incest, or health of the mother. He’s since flip-flopped.
How can you trust the guy?
August 22nd, 2008 at 8:18 am
Um, isn’t Jill Stanek also that person who claims that the Chinese eat aborted fetuses and consider them a delicacy? And that’s only a start. Not exactly a credible individual.
No, that’s “Bush lied and thousands died.”
I just googled it and read the bill that Obama voted against, because I like to decide for myself, and which many Republican voted against also, and which was opposed by the Illinois Medical Society, and it doesn’t say much about taking care of a fetus, or whatever, after an abortion, but it talks a lot about liability, about how doctors, and medical personnel, can be held liable, or in other words, can be sued. So it was, essentially, in my opinion, an attempt to pass a law that would leave doctors and medical personnel open to law suits, even spurious law suits, as a stealth attempt to further undermine abortion rights, which are legal, right now.
Now just thinking about this, I have to say, this just ain’t right. A doctor can be sued for successfully performing a medical procedure which is legal? And then politicians are damned for voting against it? That makes no sense at all. Such a thing should never have even come up for a vote. I wish I had time to dig deeper. Who crafted this bill? Who were the Republicans who opposed it? But I don’t have time right now.
But, if you listen to Beth Shaw, then you are not supposed to have a mind of your own. Beth, you are nothing more than a propagandist, and a poor one at that. You are also very offensive. That supposed picture of Obama lying face down naked in the sand looks like someone who is dead, and I am sure that was your intent.
August 22nd, 2008 at 8:40 am
Bob, you are off topic. Address the topic of the posts please.
August 22nd, 2008 at 9:35 am
Barack Obama is in a conundrum, and I think abortion shows that more than any other issue. He got this far by being a far-left maverick that entrances college students, academics and media types.
Now, he’s trying to focus more on how moderate and centrist he’s become. That’s a tough sell, considering nobody knew who this guy was just a year ago.
McCain is doing a different dance. He’s trying to show he’s now more right of center than he has been in the past.
I think advantage goes to McCain on this politically. Going from left to center doesn’t get you any support from the Christian right or any other groups I can think of. After all, independents are pretty conservative on social issues. Going from Center to Right allows McCain to shore up the Republican Christian base and allows him to get socially conservative independents.
August 22nd, 2008 at 10:15 am
Ok moonbats…the topic at hand is the Obamassiah. The doood that thinks he is such a deity he can determine an infants right to live or die.It’s about him…his decision, his belief.He fits real well with those of you that see children as punishment….he is disgusting and I don’t think he has a soul. No, I can’t prove that, but I believe anyone that murders the unborn lacks a soul.
Who knows…maybe the second coming will have his heart swell to the size of a pea and decide that ok…maybe one in 10000 babies can live.
Women have a right to their bodies..they do not have the right to murder, nor should men pass laws encouraging them to do so.
August 22nd, 2008 at 10:30 am
believe anyone that murders the unborn lacks a soul.
If the unborn is murdered, does that make them undead?
Women have a right to their bodies..they do not have the right to murder, nor should men pass laws encouraging them to do so.
First of all, women pass laws too these days. Second, I know of no law that encourages anyone to commit murder (or have abortions, for that matter).
Third, this nonsense about Obama and dead babies is yet another BS story that reveals more about the teller than the subject. Charging a political opponent with being sympathetic to infanticide is a clear sign you must be getting REALLY desperate.
August 22nd, 2008 at 10:33 am
beth?
how did you get obama to pose for that picture?
just curious. :cough:
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Waldo : Roe v Wade encourages and excuses murder in they eyes of the law. All Obama has done since being caught with his pants down about a living child being unable to receive medical attention ( gotta abide by the female birthing objects decision ) is back pedal, stutter, stammer and call people liars. What part of Obama sees children as a punishment don’t you understand ? The boy is evil..pure evil. In my most not so humble opinion , anyway.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:20 pm
That supposed picture of Obama lying face down naked in the sand looks like someone who is dead
Well – I found him to be a burden and didn’t think it was fair to have to be punished by him.
August 22nd, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Roe v Wade encourages and excuses murder in they eyes of the law.
#1. Only if you think abortion is murder, which I certainly do not. I’m still waiting to hear a compelling case for anything close to this.
#2. I do not see how Roe v Wade “encourages” abortion.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Look Waldo….Roe v Wade gave the feminists the permission they sought to excuse the murder of their children. It enabled them to be wanton sluts with no consequences…after all, way easier to kill a bay that has no voice than listen to a whining radical feminist demand her right to kill.
To clarify..I am NOT saying all women that have had abortions are wanton sluts, so don’t go there, k ?
August 22nd, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Aside from calling people “wanton sluts” (seriously, are we living in pioneer times? Was “painted jezebels” unavailable?), where do you get off with this “feminists” stuff? As I recall, Roe vs. Wade gave the right to choose to all women, not just feminists.
Next, so I can understand your position– I’d like you to please explain to me why you believe destroying a fertilized egg constitutes “murder”. I am also curious if you consider in vitro fertilization to be a murderous process.
Finally, I’m curious what you feel the penalty should be for a woman who has an abortion? Do you advocate the death penalty or would life in prison be sufficient?
W
August 22nd, 2008 at 7:47 pm
JoeAnne, John McCain supports fetal stem cell research and believes abortion should be legal in the case of rape & incest.
By your definition, John McCain supports murder.
August 22nd, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Bob, this post is about Barack Obama naked. Obviously this topic interested you so share your thoughts.
August 22nd, 2008 at 8:09 pm
MCCAIN-Your writing style and comments are juvenile. This cannot be you:
Patrick McCain holds advanced degrees in Business and Economics from the University of California. He is a published author and historian. McCain serves on corporate boards and is active in the non-profit sector and the Catholic church. He is 44 years old and currently resides near San Francisco.
August 22nd, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Waldo : In vitro in my opinion is meddling in God’s work. Not making a judgment call against those that use that option…just wish it wasn’t available.
This is not about punishing a woman..it is about killing babies. Life begins at conception…so preach your fertilized egg whining to someone who thinks you’re right.
Painted Jezebel would have worked fine, but didn’t want y’all to have to hurt your brains looking it up.
Once again, John McCain has nothing to do with this post, ok ?
August 22nd, 2008 at 8:45 pm
In vitro in my opinion is meddling in God’s work. Not making a judgment call against those that use that option…just wish it wasn’t available.
Why is this not murder on a mass scale? You take a bunch of eggs, fertilize them, create say 10 embryos. Pick a couple to go in the uterus and the rest you throw in the garbage. Sounds like mass murder to me, by your standards, no? If not, why not?
This is not about punishing a woman..it is about killing babies.
So should women who murder their babies (according to you) should get life in prison or the death penalty?
Life begins at conception…
Says who? Besides you, I mean?
Painted Jezebel would have worked fine, but didn’t want y’all to have to hurt your brains looking it up.
It didn’t hurt my brain (I only have one, sorry) to come up with it the first time. Say- how do you use a computer when you’re living in the 19th century anyway?
W
August 22nd, 2008 at 8:49 pm
JoAnn-you are judging a presidential candidate, Obama. McCain has everything to do with it and deserves the same scrutiny.
August 22nd, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Yes Pete, she is judging because you have visited the “conservative division” of Right Pundits. If you will go visit our liberal wing, Right Daily Kos Pundits, you will find a more amenable crowd to affirming your most excellent fancies.
August 23rd, 2008 at 3:42 am
The only lies I see and read is on this blog. I guess thsi blog is for the real idiots. I must them go! LOLOLOLLOLOLOL
Bunch of fools!
August 23rd, 2008 at 3:49 am
I must them go!
Got you all flustered didn’t it? I know its hard to realize your Chosen One is lying through his perfect teeth.