Artic ice has grown this summer in spite of warnings about global warming. Read about it below!
The Register has a great story about the growth of the Arctic Ice this summer. Apparently, despite all computer assisted weather models and Global warming climate change hyperbole, there was an actual net gain in the arctic ice of about 30%:
Just a few weeks ago, predictions of Arctic ice collapse were buzzing all over the internet. Some scientists were predicting that the “North Pole may be ice-free for first time this summer”. Others predicted that the entire “polar ice cap would disappear this summer”.
The Arctic melt season is nearly done for this year. The sun is now very low above the horizon and will set for the winter at the North Pole in five weeks. And none of these dire predictions have come to pass. Yet there is, however, something odd going on with the ice data.The National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) in Boulder, Colorado released an alarming graph on August 11, showing that Arctic ice was rapidly disappearing, back towards last year’s record minimum. Their data shows Arctic sea ice extent only 10 per cent greater than this date in 2007, and the second lowest on record….
The problem is that this graph does not appear to be correct. Other data sources show Arctic ice having made a nice recovery this summer. NASA Marshall Space Flight Center data shows 2008 ice nearly identical to 2002, 2005 and 2006. Maps of Arctic ice extent are readily available from several sources, including the University of Illinois, which keeps a daily archive for the last 30 years
So, according to the data liberals would have us believe (I mean, the NSIDC is located in Boulder, I’m sure they are not on the take) the increase was only 10%, but according to other data the increase in ice is about 30%. So, who to believe? That is the problem with the Al Gore crowd and anyone else who believes this hoax, the data is absolutely all over the map on climate change. Computer models predict one thing and something else entirely happens. The whole point of science is to try to make predictions about the natural world. If you predictions never are correct, why even try? Of course, the answer to that is you keep trying to induce more panic, thereby increasing university grants, which spews out more false models, thus perpetuating the cycle.
Next year we’ll hear the same crap, in 10 years we’ll hear more of the same junk science. The media will hype it up, telling us we’re all going to die. Except, the problem is, nothing ever changes (except the size of Al Gore’s bank account, that is growing much faster the the CO2 content of our atmosphere).
Of course, I must be missing the obvious here. As another blogger pointed out, “the thicker ice is caused by warmer weather, you must be a denier.” Yeah, that’s the ticket. Of course I’m a denier, the only problem is, the actual data is also a denier. I won’t deny that Al Gore is a gigantic hypocrite though.










August 15th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
It’s because God listens to Barack Obama.
August 15th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
This is all fine - but I don’t like it a bit. I was thinking of taking donations for ‘carbon footprint offsets’ and using the money to :ahem: plant a tree somewhere.
This could put a crimp in my entrepreneurial enterprise.
August 15th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
hi all i’m on vacation in canada
i would not take the info from the university of illinos at face value.
i went there … we drink a lot
August 15th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Lol Lisab, I went to Southern Illinois, we drink more.
August 15th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
BULL CRAP
August 15th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
Ed, I think you mean to say that cow burp is causing global warming.
August 15th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
I read the article, and it is bull crap.
What will it take? What will it take, for you to finally believe? All those pictures of the polar bears drowning didn’t do it. The fact that the Northwest Passage has opened up for the first time in history didn’t do it. The Eskimos etc. loosing their homes, that hasn’t done it. Japan all POed because they are loosing their arctic ice, this is not doing it. Just what will it take?
I know. Maybe when Xmas gets canceled because Santa’s Castle has sunk into the ocean, or maybe when the Blob is on the loose once again, and absorbs the family cat or dog–or worse–maybe then, you will finally believe….
August 15th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
But the temperature is falling.
August 16th, 2008 at 2:00 am
I hope you’re having fun in Canada, Lisa. Is it cold there? Do you see any icebergs or polar bears?
We’d like an eye witness account of the weather up there so we can factor that into our decision about whether to send Al Gore more money or not.
August 16th, 2008 at 4:51 am
There’s no global warming in MY BACK YARD. Yessir, when revelations said the seas will boil it means that it will boil as an act of The Allmighty and not some namby pamby global whatsit. Anyway, they kicked me out of college becase I didn’t support the anti-God pro-Darwinist agenda; just like OREILY SAIS, academia is a bunch of money grubbing pinhead parasites!
August 16th, 2008 at 6:13 am
Edward, your reaction to this article is priceless. I purely expect (like any other religious movement) rightous indignation and refusal to believe the facts.
Oh, and not to burst your bubble, that whole polar bear thing was a hoax. The photographer deliberately set up the polar bear. Also, the northwest passage is not open. Some speculate that it might, but according to the Globe and Mail, “Ice remains from west of Cornwallis Island in Nunavut to east of Banks Island in the Northwest Territories.”
August 16th, 2008 at 6:59 am
I think you should return your B.S. degree to whatever University minted you as the world is round and we do go around the sun and this year the anartic polar cap is melting at an unusually high rate. Other places as the Argentinian glacier also continue to melt. Several more degrees of global warming and its going to get a lot worse. I suggest lower manhattenites to go out booty shopping this christmas and get an inflatable life raft they can keep in the closet. Please all of you turn in your science courses to the appropriate univsersity and stop embarrassing them unfairly.
August 16th, 2008 at 7:09 am
Brian, that is not true, I’ve read articles showing the antarctic ice sheet is expanding due to cooler ocean temperatures, despite hysterical reports of it’s imminent collapse. You see, you guys always want it both ways. As my snarky comment illustrates, of course the arctic ice is thickening because its getting warmer.
Once again, the best you can say about the “science” of global warming is that it is mixed. The worst you can say is that it is a entire hoax. You keep believing though man, I don’t wan’t to disparage another’s faith.
August 16th, 2008 at 8:45 am
I take strong offense that you would so denigrate an attempt at scientific inquirey as a liberal or conservative, or democratic or republican party thing. Calling anyone with an opposing understanding of the growing mountain of data one of “you guys” is an abortion to anyone engaged in scientific inquiry. You are the ideologue. I am a data collector and looking at trends. Humans leave a large thermal signature on the earth from manufacturing to growing cattle herds to deforestation to what is generally talked about the spewing out of hydrocarbon and various pollutants. Aggregated it adds to our “thermalsphere” and even general chemisty 101 will teach you why.
August 16th, 2008 at 9:16 am
Bryan M.
Are you serious using the The Register story written by “Steve” as the basis of this post? Anyone can take two images of Artic Ice from two days about a year apart and make the case for anything they wish. This is not science. Anyone denying that the earth is going through a significant warming period, regardless of the reason (human activity or a natural cycle) has an amazing set of blinders on. I am trying really hard to take RightPundits seriously, but this post is a stinker.
August 16th, 2008 at 9:39 am
Brian, your attempt to stamp this debate with serious scientific discovery is beyond hilarious. That is the problem with Goriacs is that they are not truly interested in serious scientific debate, they are interested in shutting up any honest opposition because they think they are right. The science on global warming is literally all over the place. Of course humans leave an imprint on the Earth, as do all animals. I, however, am denying that the alarmist teachings of Al Gore and his ilk are any where near correct, especially when literally thousands of actual scientists disagree with the man-made global warming theory. These are not just “deniers” or the random crack-pot, but serious climatoligists around the world who just do not find the evidence for the alarmism spewed forth by the Gore crowd. You can call me an ideolog all you want, but if I thought the Earth was really in danger, I’d sure as hell do my most to help it. I just find the constant contradiction amongst the green crowd to be beyond the pale of reliability.
Pete, your just a denier. The register didn’t just make numbers up out of thin air, they based on research from people who, you know, actually study the climate. Once again, this doesn’t fit your meme and mindset. I’m hear to free ideologs like you and Brian from your mind set
August 16th, 2008 at 9:54 am
To me al gore is just another new age entrepreneur who’s made a lot of money over a “concept” but I don’t think he is evil. He has advanced the discussion about moving to more fuel efficient cars which isn’t a bad thing regarding our energy as a national security issue. I think your just another denier for whatever reason. I am probably more conservative than you and I do look carefully at what people are saying and the why behind it. Is it alarmist to find new more efficent ways to maintain our lifestyle? Is it alarmist to be told to clean up your campsite after a weekend of use so as not to garbage up the great outdoors? Is it alarmist to vaccinate your kids against polio still? Come on. I think you can be a conservative or even a republican and use good common sense. The vast, and I mean vast, majority of date including the US meterological survey and NASA and any University Science departmens I know do see the global warming trend. Remember there are two warming cycles, the cyclical one existing long before humans and the secular one since humans colonized the planet. These two interact in very interesting ways. The fact is CO2 and any ambient hydrocarbon traps sunlight and we make kaboodles of it day in and day out.
August 16th, 2008 at 10:47 am
The global warming hoax is pretty much over now. A few die-hards will cling to their Scireligion like Wiccans, but it’s finally coming to a close as the scientific evidence refutes them. Our liberal friends will need to strap their backpacks back on and try tree-sitting again.
August 16th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
MCCAIN YOU ARE SO WRONG YOU BETTER PICK THE RIGHT VEEP FOR ANY HOPE OF WHITE HOUSE EMBROIDERED NAPKINGS.
August 16th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
I guess NASA is in on the hoax too. Here is the latest on the Northwest Passage and the status of sea ice in the Arctic according to them.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=18113
“In the summer of 2007, as Arctic sea ice reached a record low, the Northwest Passage opened between Baffin Bay and McClure Strait (also known as M’Clure Strait). Passing through Parry Channel, this opening would be the route through the Arctic most conducive to large-scale shipping. As of early August 2008, Arctic sea ice was not expected to set a new melt record, although its extent was well below the long-term average. Whether the Northwest Passage would open as far north as it did the previous year remained in question, but the sea ice in a more southerly route—one taken by Norwegian explorer Roald Amundsen in the early twentieth century—had begun to melt.”
August 16th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
BTW, maybe the folks at the Register should clarify what they mean by “10% greater sea ice”. Sea ice is not a continuous sheet across the arctic. It is measured in concentrations. More importantly, it should be measured in volume “as a function of thickness” to be more relevant to the global warming discussion. I believe that is where the inconsistencies between the reports cropped up.
August 17th, 2008 at 9:53 am
Bryan M:
“Pete, your just a denier. The register didn’t just make numbers up out of thin air, they based on research from people who, you know, actually study the climate. Once again, this doesn’t fit your meme and mindset. I’m hear to free ideologs like you and Brian from your mind set.”
Steve’s numbers are NOT based on research from people who actually study the climate. None of the numbers Steve Goddard gives as proof of his assertions were generated by either the NSIDC, NASA MSFC or the University of Illinois. There are no hyperlinks in the article that back up his assertions. There are however lots of hyperlinks that link to true and verifiable data that backs up the argument FOR global warming. Give me something to work with here.
Also, check where the video on You Tube came from; Steve Goddard. There is no audio, no reference to any link that this was produced by NSDIC, NASA MSFC, or the Uni of Illinois or any other authentic entity. Very very weak. Further evidence that this whole site is a gag, a goof, a joke. Adios.
August 17th, 2008 at 10:04 am
Let us not forget that, just several years ago, scientists were saying that the effects of Global Warming would not become obvious for decades. But this has changed. There are tipping points and thresholds that were not accounted for. The simple fact that we are debating whether or not the AMOUNT of melt in the Arctic is significant evidence for Global Warming seems to me to be powerful evidence that it is indeed occurring.
August 17th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
bryan M. us guys? Oh we differ by breakfast cereal choice? doesn’t matter. the globe is melting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 17th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
How about a polar shift? Albert Einstein, who had opinions on many things other than physics, believed that sudden polar shifts in past geologic epochs were related to the build up of ice at the poles. Would a rapid depletion of ice at the poles have a similar effect? Maybe that would wake y’all up. Wake up one morning, and the Earth is spinning north/south, rather than east/west. That is…if we woke up at all.