Moveon.org has put out a political ad attacking John McCain on the Iraq War. Josh Schroeder, a private citizen, has responded to that ad. See both of the video ads below.
You Can’t Have Alex! - Video
The political ad above was put out by moveon.org. Its been called ‘You Can’t Have Alex!’ or ‘Not Alex’. The little actress is holding a baby and telling John McCain that he can’t have ‘little Alex’ for his hundred-year war. This, of course, is a complete twisting of what John McCain said about the war. Their version of his statement is one of those things where if you say it often enough and loudly enough that people start believing the spin rather than the facts.
The ad is obviously aimed at pulling on the heart strings of mommies so that they will be afraid John McCain will take their babies and send them to war. Its obviously aimed at scaring mommies badly enough that they will therefore vote for Barack Obama. For those of us who have seen our sons go off to war, the video is infuriating. The implication is that there’s something wrong with people who choose to serve their country in the military (yes, its a CHOICE), and that there is something intrinsically wrong with our military.
The video is nothing but fear mongering. It implies there is a draft. It implies that John McCain will swoop into your homes and take babes from mothers’ arms and send them off to foreign lands to make them do bad things. It also implies that little Alex is more special than the sons of mothers who have to sit at home while their sons fight for our country.
It undermines the military and its disrespectful to those who serve. It is a slap in the face to all mothers who spend months and years having to consciously live their lives with a constant aching in their hearts and terror in their souls while their sons are deployed.
Little Alex is no more special than my son, or any of the other sons and daughters who were raised to feel a sense of duty to country.
Predictably, bloggers are having a great time responding to this lunacy. Don Surber wonders how Alex feels about all this. Fausta reflects on the emotional appeal of the ad. Jim Geraghty points out that by the end of a hypothetical second John McCain term, little Alex will be nine-years-old and not likely to be drafted at that age. Ed Morrissey gives a reasoned response by pointing out that John McCain, of all people, understands the nature of the sacrifice required of those who go to war as well as those who watch and wait as their precious children go to war.
And the parodies begin. Allahpundit posted a parody. But my favorite so far was posted by Josh Schroeder, who calls himself ‘one private citizen‘ and says ‘Not My Wallet’ … enjoy that video below.
Not My Wallet - Video








June 18th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
thanks for that beth. a standing O.
June 18th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Moveon.org ?
Why am I not surprised ?
This very well could come back to bite the org and Obama in the a$$. Even Obama has stopped misconstruing this statement of McCains.
I wonder how much say so he had on the production of this.
But I’m worried.
Within hours of this add airing the McCain camp should of simply put out the statement in its full context. Especially the tail end of it where he plainly says that it would only be if no harm was coming to Americans.
It worries me that when there are ample opportunities to put Obama and gang in their place these opportunities are not taken advantage of in a more aggressive and expeditious manner.
In the retaliation I would list all the other slimy adds that Moveon has placed.( Petreaus betray us, the McCain intern thing ) all of which were carried by the Jayson Blair times also.
I would also include some of the points Beth made as far as it being a voluntary enlistment and a matter of personal adult choice when Alex is of recruiting age.
It seems like they were trying to draw on all the middle white female votes that would possibly come from Hillary voters.
The mother wasn’t black or Hispanic.
Just a thought
June 18th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
On the 100 years thing. McCain has said that as long as there are lives being taken we haven’t won, so we’ll stay until there are no lives taken. But then he goes on to say if no lives being taken we can stay. To me that is an infinite Iraq stay not just 100 years.
About the ad, didn’t watch it, just read what the premise was and actually agree with most of what was said. Voluntary military and that this is a scare piece. I wouldn’t tie the ad to Obama unless at the end it says “Obama supports this message.”
June 18th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Well, there’s a reason that recruitment is drastically down for the military. It’s probably something to do with the fact that very few believe this war is the right thing to do. McCain is a proponent of this war, and has no qualms with its continuance, until whenever “victory” is attained. Many believe the draft might roll around like the vietnam days. Is that what you want for your children? Not mine. I like the idea of a volunteer service, and until the basic morality returns to our nations capitol, I hope nobody volunteers.
About that other reply-video there. Did you know that Obamas tax plan gives you more of your tax money back than McCains plan? Unless you make more than 229k a year that is. They were both recently -digested- by independent firms. And hey, Pal in the LayZBoy, you sure don’t look like you’re makin 200gs a year. Its all good, me neither. But, why vote to pay more? and for war? I mean …….duh…..
What is the definition of victory in this case anyhow? Until Iraq is happily churning out little happy democracy songs?
June 18th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Tailhunter - what is the definition of the ‘wealthy’ from whom Obama has stated he plans to take 51% of their income.
$75,000 household income - hardly ‘wealthy’
June 18th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
HOLY SHIIZAS!!
I wouldnt vote for anyone like that!…but whats your source?
I’ll race ya to sources?
June 18th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Heres a link from market watch.
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/obama-missing-chance-campaign-tax/story.aspx?guid={654C85A3-BA02-4DE8-BAB2-296135323425}
That wasnt the source I was lookin for, but its got some points. I was looking for a simple grid.
I’ll be right back
June 18th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
Tailhunter - what I want for my children is ‘life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness’. Those basic tenets of our society are threatened when the world perceives us as weak.
When we turned tail and ran from Vietnam, the world saw a crack in our armor. We have yet to show the world that we are still made out of the right stuff. They don’t trust us, because we left Vietnam vulnerable and just LEFT.
If we do the same thing in Iraq, we will seal our own coffins.
If you don’t want your children to have to live with that danger looming over them, then I would think you’d want us to be able to leave Iraq in VICTORY rather than defeat. John McCain understands what is at stake. Its a lot more than a college classroom theoretical discussion on the virtues of peace vs war.
June 18th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
oki,
ya miss me?
Heres the tax breakdown I was referring to.
MCCAIN OBAMA
Income -Avg. tax bill -Avg. tax bill
Over $2.9M -$269,364 +$701,885
$603K and up -$45,361 +$115,974
$227K-$603K -$7,871 +$12
$161K-$227K -$4,380 -$2,789
$112K-$161K -$2,614 -$2,204
$66K-$112K -$1,009 -$1,290
$38K-$66K -$319 -$1,042
$19K-$38K -$113 -$892
Under $19K -$19 -$567
June 18th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
I’m waiting with baited breath Tailhunter. Just try to get the latest version of how he’s said he’s going to tax us.
June 18th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Did you find that at DU?
June 18th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
I wouldn’t tie the ad to Obama unless at the end it says “Obama supports this message.�
And yet, you have no problem tying anything anyone says to John McCain. How magnanimous.
June 18th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
I think your mindset is dangerous. I also think it is misguided. It pits US vs THEM. Nobody in the world is going to throw down with us. PERIOD! No nation wants to die, to be obliterated, to completely cease to exist in any way. We are the the most powerful nation in the history of our species. We can destroy the entire planet many many times over. We should not fear anyone! Who are you afraid of? The dirt farmers? (no offense to actual dirt farmers of course)
When we enter in arrogant and aggressive behavior as a nation it fosters the only thing that could unravel our nation. Resentment.
All I’m sayin I guess, is: why cant we let them play in their sand box, and we have ours. If they want to attack us unprovoked, then lets frikin crush em.
June 18th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
And maybe you can define Victory for me….ya see I thought we already had it when we completely decimated the armed forces of Iraq.
June 18th, 2008 at 6:48 pm
Whats DU?
June 18th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Well, bye bye, and be nice!
June 18th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
Drew.
That was weak.
Some say the glass is half full, some say its half empty.
Actually if the glass in in the process of being filled and you stop half way, its half full.
If you are emptying the glass and stop halfway, its half empty.
Your perception is negative and always half empty.
He also mentioned the reasons for this by using Korea, Germany and japan as examples of ehat he was talking about. Our precense in those three has nothing to do with whos dying and whos living.
At least hes not filling us with sh*t bt saying he will pull everyone out in 60 days.
Everyone knows that be a catastrophy.
Even Obama. he’s just telling you anti war moonbats exactly what you want to hear
June 18th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
“Well, there’s a reason that recruitment is drastically down for the military”
FY 2008 Recruiting
Annual – End of Fiscal Year 2007
Army
Accessions: 80,407
Goal: 80,000
Percent: 101%
Navy
Accessions: 7,361
Goal: 37,000
Percent: 101%
Marine Corps
Accessions: 35,603
Goal: 35,576
Percent: 100%
Air Force
Accessions: 27,801
Goal: 27,801
Percent: 100%
Accessions Goal Percent
Army National Guard
Accessions: 66,652
Goal: 70,000
Percent: 95%
Army Reserve
Accessions: 35,734
Goal: 35,505
Percent: 101%
Navy Reserve
Accessions: 10,627
Goal: 10,602
Percent: 100%
Marine Corps Reserve
Accessions: 7,959
Goal: 7,256
Percent: 110%
Air National Guard
Accessions: 9,975
Goal: 10,690
Percent: 93%
Air Force Reserve
Accessions: 7,110
Goal: 6,834
Percent: 104%
June 19th, 2008 at 5:41 am
Beth, please inform me of when I have “tied anything anyone has said about McCain to him.” Frankly, I only need to tie what comes out ofhis own mouth to make him look like a fool.
Have I mentioned anything about McCain that I couldn’t source as coming out his own mouth or his surrogates? I don’t expect you to be able to answer that as I doubt you hang on my every word so I’ll go ahead and answer for you…No, and I don’t need to.
Rhetorical question: How many times have you personally forwarded the Obama smear email? Said he was a Muslim? Said he wasn’t born in the US?
Micky, i don’t see how positive or negative perceptions changes the fact that McCain won’t leave Iraq until there is victory which he defines as no more loss of American lives and follows that up with but if there aren’t lives being lost there isn’t a problem to stay. The only thing wrong with the “100 years war” stigma is that it is more accurately described as “100 years occupation” either of which I disagree with.
And I agree, leaving Iraq in the span of 60 days would be dumb. Who suggested that? I hope they don’t win the presidency. Obama has yet to give a specific timeline, only suggested he would like it completed by the end of 2009. He has also said, “we need to be as careful getting out as we were careless getting in.”
Tai, that second breakdown you posted, where did you get that? I’d like to send it to my sister. For some reason she thinks her taxes will rise.
June 19th, 2008 at 6:32 am
Nevermind, Tai, I found it. For anyone else that wants to take a look at it…
http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news/economy/candidates_taxproposals_tpc/index.htm
June 19th, 2008 at 6:58 am
Disagreeing with what McCain said is different from lying about it.
Drew;
“stigma is that it is more accurately described as “100 years occupationâ€? either of which I disagree with.”
“More accurately”? Well, you’re disagreeing with your own terms which you injected all on your own and you think should apply out of bias perception.
McCain has called it a “presence” in numerous passages in that town hall meeting and numerous times outside the meeting.
You cant just change the language to what you think it should be so that you can turn around and say you disagree with it.
I don’t know where you get ” but if there aren’t lives being lost there isn’t a problem to stay ” from , but its awfully similar to “As long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed ” which is what he really said in accurate context.
Both your rendition and what McCain really said shouldn’t be a problem though, right ?
No one is getting hurt so why would it be disadvantageous to stay ?
What I find so hypocritical is that I haven’t heard Obama speak out against the “Alex” commercial which is the topic here, and which is a smear in its clearest form.
But at the same time he has launched a ” stop the smear ” website.
So here we are with some legitimate questions about Osama that he simply needs to get up answer. Many of which I really don’t care about , but what concerns me is that he wont or takes forever to answer them. He cry’s like a bitch about smears and then it seems he has no problem smearing McCain by not putting a stop to or speaking out against this BS add with little Alex.
“Stop the smears” (only the ones directed at us)
As far as positive or negative perceptions go.
You made my point when you went and changed “presence” to “occupation”
McCain also said any long-term troop presence in Iraq would depend on agreement from the Iraqi government.”I hope it would be fine with you if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where al Qaeda is training, recruiting, equipping and motivating people every single day.”
Anyway. The bottom line is this.
Its a cheap commercial that is nothing but a lie. A lie that is being told by simple omission of the truth and bunch of insinuation based on false pretenses.
And like I said up top. McCain needs to come out and put these scumbags at Moveon in their place. And Obama should condemn it also. Otherwise he looks just as bad as Moveon.
June 19th, 2008 at 8:10 am
Obama has set up the smear refuting site on his own and has asked McCain only to condemn GOP backed ads involving attacks on his family, not attacks directed at his policies, assumed or concrete. If you want yo suggest McCain set up his own smear fighting site I think that would be great. I would love to know the truth about his divorce, his suspected womanizing, accused foul language toward his own current wife, etc.
I didn’t know the DNC funded MoveOn and therefore it is Obama’s responsibilty to defend McCain from political attacks from every individual group out there.
I’m a member of MoveOn and they ran a contest in which their members voted on a series of attack ads on McCain and that one apparently won. Note: I didnt vote for any of them, I much prefer playing video of contrasting opinion and goofs that come out of McCain’s own mouth…he doesn’t need any help looking like a fool.
We’re just going to have to agree to disagree on the rest though. You think ot is fine to have a presence/occupy (tomato/tomahto) in Iraq indefinitely…I’m against it.
June 19th, 2008 at 8:44 am
Drew;
“I didn’t know the DNC funded MoveOn and therefore it is Obama’s responsibilty to defend McCain from political attacks from every individual group out there.”
It doesnt matter, its bullsh*t and Obama should condemn it.
Obama is hell bent on whining about smears againcst himself that come from various sources.
Drew;
“McCain’s own mouth…he doesn’t need any help looking like a fool.”
Any more than Obama who has proven clueless in his views of foreign policies.
Which is what this add touchs on.
No, there is a difference between an occupation and a presence.
You dont get to pick and choose like that slime ball organization you belong to that picks and chooses the context of peoples statements in order to twist things into big fat lies.
You guys dont want smears ?
Preach what you supposedly want to practice.
If you had a realistic reason for not wanting a presence it would make your case a little more valid.
Viewing it as an occupation would cast a negative light on it. And that , out of blind partisanship is the way you would like it. No matter what the benefits and rational reasons would be.
June 19th, 2008 at 10:04 am
Drew;
“I didn’t know the DNC funded MoveOn and therefore it is Obama’s responsibility to defend McCain from political attacks from every individual group out there.”
They should make their responsibility since everything Obama has said in response to McCains 100 year statement is along the same lines of smear, misconstruement and is flat out lying through cherry picking select quotes from statements which otherwise in their full context have a completely different meaning.
Obama;
“Sen. McCain said the other day that we might be mired for 100 years in Iraq. ”
McCain never used the word “mired”
Back in February, Obama: “We are bogged down in a war that John McCain now suggests might go on for another hundred years.�
And, on a separate occasion: “(McCain) says that he is willing to send our troops into another hundred years of war in Iraq.�
McCain never suggested the war would go on for a hundred years or that we would send our troops into Iraq for another hundred years of war in Iraq.
Obama;
“Senator McCain has been saying I don’t understand national security, but he’s the one who wants to keep tens of thousands of United States troops in Iraq for as long as 100 years,”
McCain never said he “wants to keep tens of thousands ”
He said he said;
” that would be fine with me” and he never mentioned a number.
And still, Obama defends this asinine distortion of McCains words on the today show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts3U939CD3g&feature=related
And then there’s this list of other schmucks just like Obama that continue to propel this BS.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZWZlYWU5ZjViYjU0NjMyMmQ5ZTY3NjhkODI2MzI5MWI=&w=MQ==
“He’s (McCain) willing to keep this war going for 100 years� (Hillary Clinton, March 17).
“What date between now and the election in November will he (McCain) drop this promise of a 100-year war in Iraq?� (Chris Matthews, March 4).
Why, even a CNN anchor (Rick Sanchez) buys it: “John McCain is telling us … that we need to win even if it takes 100 yearsâ€? (March 16).
I think it would be more accurate to say that the DNC and Moveon are one in the same seeing as how George Souros is the main contributor to both and surely has a large say so in what comes out of either one to the point that they are voicing the same garbage.
I don’t see either one of them telling the other that these kind of actions are not in our best interest if we truly want to show the country that we are trying to bring it together.
The left is lying and standing behind that lie.
And you have made it clear that you take pride in being a part of it.
June 19th, 2008 at 10:34 am
So the McCain-bots will scream holy hell, the Obama-supporters will say “who cares” and life will go on.
Politics as usual…..