The slippery slope has slid in the form of Thomas Beatie, the world’s first pregnant man. Baby photos, gynecologist interviews and sonograms are here.
Thomas Beatie, Pregnant Man Gives Birth
Update: The pregnant man is pregnant again. Read the latest addition to the Man family here.
The Oregon man and his wife Nancy are expecting their first child in July. He is pregnant while Nancy Beatie doesn’t have much to do with it biologically. Read the full story of what will be one challenged kid. All for 15 minutes of fame by parents apparently more interested in their “rights” than what is best for children.
Update: Thomas Beatie gave birth to a healthy baby girl on July 3rd, 2008. See all the photos here. There is some controversy about whether the birth was natural or caesarean section. Of course, if the pregnant man was really a man, that would be the mother of all kidney stones to pass. Which brings me to this….
Thomas Beatie is actually a girl. She took some steps toward a sex change operation but did not complete the reproductive goodies. Clear so far? Yeah, no wiener.
So how did Mrs. Beatie impregnate her husband, umm wife, in an immaculate conception? Well she did not do it, sir. Thomas Beatie was seeded by the donor sperm of a Good Samaritan doctor in Oregon.
The only hero of this story is the doctor who refused to participate in this charade of human life. The doctor appropriately referred her to a psychologist and later told her to shove off so that he could treat serious patients.
It takes a village, as Hillary says, and Oregon has some very large villages.
March 26th, 2008 at 6:08 am
He is not the world’s first pregnant man. There have been others, including Matt Rice. Try fact-checking. It’s neat.
March 26th, 2008 at 6:32 am
Yeah, expect to hear about this kid in about 18 years, he’ll be the one who shows up to school with a shotgun. I hope his “parents” have good health insurance, the mental health bills are going to be high.
March 26th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
This is a very good argument for Presidential candidates. Whoever candidate will make a big issue that this is a bad influence to the young generation and will propose a law for gay people people to not get married and get pregnant, I will vote for that candidate. he or She who change gender is against God creation. And by getting pregnant in such condition such as Thomas Beatie, should be federal offense.
March 26th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
This is a very good argument for Presidential candidates. Whoever candidate will make a big issue that this is a bad influence to the young generation and will propose a law for gay people to not get married and get pregnant, I will vote for that candidate. he or She who change gender is against God creation. And by getting pregnant in such condition such as Thomas Beatie, should be federal offense.
March 28th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
My congratulations to Thomas and Nancy. I hope their child is a beautiful, healthy child.
Isn’t our God a god of love? Why are we so quick to judge? Doesn’t scripture tell us to judge not lest we be judged?
Will this child be the first to have two same-sex parents? Not hardly; why is he fore-doomed to mental health problems because of that? Are all children of male-female parents free of mental health problems? Don’t we wish.
Regardless of parentage, this birth will be a blessed event. Please wish them well.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Oh Deanna, get your head out of the clouds. The problem isn’t about God in heaven, it is about fallible people on earth. This kid comes into the world with a handicap that will follow the poor child throughout grammar school and leave deep emotional scars. The fact that parents would willfully bring a child into this situation is the height of immaturity and extreme selfishness. Unless, of course, they plan to give the child up for adoption, which is precisely what they need to do for the child’s best interest.
March 29th, 2008 at 4:53 am
I’m not judging anyone’s salvation in the scriptual sense, I’m judging their wisdom (or lack there of) which is a perfectly valid thing to do. The scriptures say “judge not lest ye be judged, for with that judgement ye shall also be judged.” In other words, don’t go around condemning people and speculating on wheather they will go to hell or heaven. Certainly you can make judgments about whether someone is wise or stupid. I know libs wish that is what the scriptures said, that way they could do whatever they want and then remind us “judge not.”
You can’t tell me that some kid who’s “dad” gave birth to him and is going to be a walking freak show for his whole life isn’t going to have issues. This isn’t a same sex couple, in fact, I don’t know what to call it rather then an abomination. But whatever it is, this kid has a severe handicap at achieving normality.
March 29th, 2008 at 6:16 am
This whole story is sort of odd, but I can’t believe it is a first. Most folks just go along with their lives and don’t tell the press. If they live in a liberal area, where the kid won’t get teased, AND the parents handle things well, the kids should do OK. If the parents go out of their way to emphasize the “weird,” then there could be problems. Of course, that is an issue with any family. I’ve known plenty of children raised in “alternative families” - some stranger than this one, and they come out normal. The “walking freak show” of this family comes from their wanting to go to the press.
The physician should have his license yanked, IMHO. Refusing to perform the artificial insemination is one thing, but referring him to a psychologist is over the top.
March 29th, 2008 at 6:45 am
Gosh you are off on this, dear MBT. A girl wanting to be a guy and then wanting to be pregnant is psychologically disturbed, in my view. And a medical doctor who actually met and talked with her recommended psychological services. That’s their job to know as professionals. If you value counseling services at all, and I recognize not everyone does value them, this is the place for them.
The rest of your comment has already been addressed by the facts. The weirdo already DID go to the press with her story. Already giving interviews and undoubtedly has dreams of cheesy talk shows and a book deal.
What liberals don’t understand is that kids aren’t about making sociological statements. The best interest of children suggest a mommy and daddy. Adoption is a better choice for this baby than a publicity-crazed family of freaks. The best interests of kids come first, not the desires of parents, especially when they are emotionally disturbed.
March 29th, 2008 at 10:11 am
I do agree with you on the publicity aspects McCain, and that is where these folks lose credibility in my book. The fact they want kids, is not an issue with me - making the kids into a political statement is, and I agree with you on that one!
I know we are on opposite poles on alternative families and gay parents, adoptions, etc. I just know too many really great gay families and those kids are as normal as any other kids. However, the families don’t march out to the press and make a big deal of things either.
I still think the Dr. should lose his license. The couple had one very dangerous ectopic preganacy, which had nothing to do with his anatomy, and everything to do with triplets - this can happen to anyone. Of course, if the physician knew that the testosterone treatments could have led to multiple births, and these complications, then he refuses on those grounds, not that the couple should go to a shrink. He could have died b/c they were forced to go home to do what should have been done and monitored by a physician.
People do all kinds of crazy things - you need to protect them from themselves sometimes, even if you don’t agree with their moral decisions. Not performing abortions is a decision to uphold life - a perfectly reasonable position for a physician, even in light of the potential for later illegal abortions. Not performing a routine medical procedure - insemination, because you don’t like how a person has chosen to live, is not an ethical decision, in my humble opinion.
I know we don’t agree on this - we never did. That’s OK - we conservatives know how to disagree without calling names. - you dinosaur!
(all in fun of course - Bloghole momentarily invaded my typing hand… 
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March 29th, 2008 at 10:26 am
But what about the fact that they “want kids.” Should that always be determinative even without the publicity? In other words, should anyone who wants to have kids in their home have them? Or is there a role for society to look out for the best interests of kids?
March 31st, 2008 at 2:19 pm
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April 2nd, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Those opposed to this: I want to know how this harms you in any way. And I don’t mean hurt “feelings”.
April 2nd, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Doesn’t harm me at all. It is harmful to the child. That is the point which your self-centered moralizing fails to appreciate.
April 3rd, 2008 at 8:00 pm
what about milk production there are no breast!
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:42 pm
Oh, you people need to grow up and get real. This a situation where 2 people love each other. They will love this child. They will raise the child in a safe and secure environment. Oh, that’s faaaaaar worse than a heterosexual couple who neglect and verbally abuse their offspring. That’s a good Christian for you. Take children away from parents that will treat them properly and put them in terrible foster care or with heteros that are so much better because of their sexual preference. FACT: 1 penis and 1 vagina = blissful home life! Right.
Wake up and quit being so hypocritically judgmental. I wish this family the best of luck. There’s no way of knowing how their child will turn out, so shame on you for passing judgment so soon. You don’t even know these poor people and already their child should be taken away? Nice.
And to MCCAIN: Cite your sources and quit making stuff up. You can’t add “in my view” to the end of a statement and pass it off as fact. The fact that McCain has followers of your kind is precisely the reason I am scared to vote for him. Talk about freaks.
Peace, love, and acceptance.
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:50 pm
I’m not sure I believe that Thomas Beatie should have legally been a man if he kept his reproductive organs, but he is legally a man and that’s just the way it is. My opinion and it’s not really a big deal. I hope his kid turns ou healthy and all, but isn’t it kind of presumptious to automatically assume that any issues their daughter has (and everyone has an issue over something, no matter who gave birth to them) is going to be the product of the way she was concieved?
Thomas and Nancy did say they were only going public because it had to come from their mouths first and not everyone else’s. Just because they speak now doesn’t mean they’re not hoping for all this to blow over so they can get back to their quiet lives.
There are millions of kids out there, with normal parents, who cut themselves because they don’t feel loved enough, or mommy or daddy is always yelling, yet no one suggested that those people give their kids up. And the mother, Nancy, already has two grown daughters, one of whom is married and happy with everything in her life, including her mother’s relationship and her coming little sister.
Why is it automatic that because of the situation they wouldn’t be fit parents? Why do you call the doctors who turned them away heroes?
April 4th, 2008 at 5:11 am
This is one big hoax. This person is NOT a man. HER sex organs have not been removed or altered. SHE has only been fed male hormones and had her breasts removed so as to appear as a man. To say that that makes HER a man is ridiculous. SHE is only a mutilated, very confused and pitiful woman.
April 4th, 2008 at 8:04 am
There is only one thing to say after reading this freak show: The pendulum will swing back. And the road back to proper morals will be a rather violent one.
And for those of you who will insist we should not judge: You won’t be able to stop the violence on the way back, so I suggest you arm yourself.
April 4th, 2008 at 8:43 am
Threatening people isn’t very nice there, Brad, and it doesn’t make anyone agree with your position either. You might want to try and calm down if you want people to take you seriously when you suggest they arm themselves against your violence.
Speaking of which, I guess no one ever told you that there’s no universal set of morals. Good thing we cleared that up otherwise you might have made a fool of yourself by threatening people online
April 4th, 2008 at 9:09 am
i agree with amanda brad, although i believe that Thomas is a women on the road to becoming a man i do not believe that he should legally have become a man ’till the womens reproductive parts were gone. I don’t see him as the first man to have a baby. he is still part women. For anyone to say how the baby will grow up is wrong. There are bad parents out there that don’t care about there kids, beat them, sexually abuse them, those are the children you should worry about now and how they grow up. Children can become strong individuals as long as there is guidance and love. Brad you sound like the kind of man that would be involved in a hate crime, i would wonder how you were raised by your mom and dad.
April 4th, 2008 at 9:52 am
Look, all of your armchair parents who don’t even know her are in no position to pass judgment.
The person who IS recommended her to a psychologist. Deal with it. She appears to be screwed up on the surface, and a medical professional confirmed what any reasonable person should suspect.
Fit parent? No. Screwed up kid? Very good chance.
And let’s stop making points by exception. Ask a child predator if they are capable of reform and they will probably say sure. And some nutty commenter would chime in that they know a reformed child predator who is the most wonderful parent today. But statistics show that child predators make bad parents, just as they show that psychologically disturbed people make bad parents.
Society has an obligation to protect children, don’t we? So deal with the facts and quit the moralizing.
April 4th, 2008 at 10:27 am
Uh, I’m pretty sure that NO ONE is in a position to pass judgment, but it looks like you are when you call her disturbed and assume her kid will be screwed up. You might want to take your own advice.
Chances are that a doctor who works in medicine knows next to nothing about the mind. Most doctors think it’s easy to switch between these careers and then fail miserably doing so because they didn’t realize what a challenge it was. That’s what psychologists are for. So you can’t say that a medical doctor is in any position to pass judgment when no one else is. A doctor is in NO position to pass judgment.
And everyone knows that pedophiles can’t be cured, you don’t need to mention it just because you can’t think of a better comparison to prove your point.
It’s creepy that you think there’s a basis for comparing pedophiles to two people who want to have a baby, no matter what their situation. And you are right, psychologically disturbed people do have worse chances for better parenting, just like parents who work too hard and spend no time with their kids. Normal, straight, hard working parent? Yes. Bad parent who ignores their kid? Probably.
But the difference is that you are no psychologist and since no one else has confirmed that these two people are disturbed that means you can’t say it either. And don’t write back saying you would know a disturbed person when you see him, you wouldn’t. That’s how Ted Bundy got away with killing for so long. Speaking of which, can you provide a source of the statistics you’re using in your reply? I’d like to see them.
Society only feels the need to protect children when it’s in the media and raising hairs, like now, but if you feel so strongly about protecting children and believe that everyone else should follow through with their “obligation” then why don’t you campaign for the children starving, dying of AIDS and being worked like slaves in third world countries? There are hundreds of thousands of them who will thank you to high heaven for just sending them to school and allowing them to see a doctor. There are even commercials on TV inviting people to do this for thirty dollars a month. Yet there are never enough people and those children die. So don’t say you feel you’re obligated, you just don’t like the idea of a woman in the process of becoming a man who got pregnant.
I don’t entirely see Thomas as a man yet either. He’s a woman in the process of becoming a man who decided to have a baby before it was too late.
And stop telling the people who don’t agree with you one hundred per cent to “quite moralizing” they’ll stop moralizing when you stop demonizing.
April 4th, 2008 at 10:35 am
LOL. A medical doctor who visited with her recommended counseling according to news reports. You can’t get around that no matter how much you want to disrespect the medical profession or pretend that you know her more than her doctor.
I’m not comparing pedophiles to “two people who want to have a baby.” Pedophiles want to have babies too. I AM comparing psychologically disturbed people.
You are apparently arguing that these parents are fit parents without even knowing them and in the face of evidence to the contrary. What is the basis for your assertion and why do you care so much?
April 4th, 2008 at 10:35 am
If he is a really a female, i don’t see the problem with it…she’s just a hairy girl…but damn…this “American” culture is becoming very strange..I mean, is just strange..I have the feeling that some people is just bored or something and tries to get some attention even if they look crazy and bizzare..or even if they mess around with nature, anyway, where are we going with all this nonsense? We need another flood soon!