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Disfunctional behavior gives the liberals power to rule. If you cannot control yourself someone will come along and do it for you. The past 50 years of liberal policies and media, namely Hollywood glorifing self center behavior, has helped put at least 35% of Americans on the welfare side instead of tax payer side. In other words takers will out number the givers due to liberal thinking.

Of course, according to Andrew my IQ is under 50, so what do I know?

Buzzbee, one reason Romney can’t keep repeating “the economy” is that he and his VP are the very culprits of the soured economy. In reality, there aren’t many issues that they can point to that doesn’t point directly back at them.

So now, according to Andrew’s philosophy, those that have suffered financially from the economic downturn (brought to us by GWB & Company), are the “begger class”. That’s an interesting perspective that raises a few questions. Is he referring to those deadbeats that won’t get off their dead asses and get what Mitt has defined as a real $250K middle class job? And if Mitt buys a company to shut it down and move it overseas, leaving the dislocated workers with no choice but to pursue temporary government assistance for survival, does that render those ex-workers as the “begger class”.

Now, those are simple yes or no questions but based on the throw-a-rock-and-run history of Andrew’s writings and responses, it’s unlikely we’ll see a rational response. It reminds me of Newt’s little campaign zinger that all people had to do was “get a job after you take a bath”. What Newt and now Andrew seem to be saying is that these folks are where they are from their own choosing. If these folks weren’t “beggers”, they’d have a real job just as Newt’s OWS protesters were not working by choice. Now, if that’s true, as Andrew and Newt suggest, that means that the Obama economy is working well as if you want a job, all you have to do is take a bath or quit being a begger and wha la, get a job.

So, to the Obama leaning base that are concerned about the lack of jobs and concerned about their survival, it’s their fault as all they have to do is just go get one. That’s the Romney plan. To the Romney leaning folks concerned about the the lack of jobs, it’s all Obama’s fault for making them unavailable. Catch the hypocrisy there?

Buzzbee, everyone knows the typical liberal IQ exceeds 400.

By the way I don’t think Obama “wants to destroy America.” But undeniably, he has made the US a worse place to live, made the poor poorer, and the world a more dangerous place to live.

This has been gnawing away at me for a few days now. Mostly because no one has brought it up.

Has it occurred to anyone that this president has put all the blame of the recent Middle East events squarely on the shoulders of one man ?

With that in mind how the hell can anyone say he takes responsibility for anything ?

In the “real world” the president of Lybia said the murders were planned on Obamas watch.
FACT
In the real world the movie has been out long before the protests.
FACT.
In the real world this had to be planned days if not weeks ahead of time to take place on the 9/11 anniversary.
FACT
In the real world you arm your embassies with guards that bullets in their guns.
FACT
In the real world on 9/11 after telling all consulates and embassies to ramp up your guard you give them more than two body guards.

In the real world when Egypt tells you 3 days ahead of time the shts gonna hit the fan you put on a hefty bag.

And the administration has changed its story right in the middle of E-mails that proved they were full o sht so spare me your garbage Buzz !
The man (no offense to men) is a class A sack o sht !

Barack Obama and the Democrats really don’t have to worry about “appealing to the beggar class” when they have Romney’s condescending contempt in their face. Considering Mitt’s now admitted these folks “believe that they are victims. My job is not to worry about those people, these are people who pay no income tax”, one would obviously conclude that these low and middle income Americans who are under taxed (47% as Mitt says) are going to be looking at a tax increase while tax breaks for the folks Mitt does care about is a sure thing.

The difference in Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan was that Reagan presented himself well, was able to relate to the American people, and didn’t flip-flop on the hour contingent on who he was talking to. Ronald Reagan had an appeal, was considered reasonably honest to most, and wasn’t such an unfeeling and arrogant prick.

Wow, where do I begin?

I think I’ll just cover some of these issues in my article for today, but it really comes down to honesty.

Nothing Romney said either last week about Libya or months ago about the “47%” are factually incorrect. The 47% do not pay income taxes therefore Romney’s plan to lower tax rates across the board really do not mean anything to them. On Libya, Obama, Hillary and this dope, Susan Rice, are all liars. Obama does not want to appear to have allowed for a successful terrorist attack against us during his reign. Well, the answer is regrettably yes, we’ve been attacked and it looks like because we did not listen to intel warnings.

While 47% may not pay federal income taxes, Mitt’s tone suggests that this undertax (for them but not for corporations, which are people too, people that Mitt’s job does indeed require him to care for) is somewhat of a problem that needs to be addressed and resolved. Considering Mitt falls short on clear and decisive commitment to anything (unless someone of the moment wants him to which he can easily etch-a-scetch in the event someone else doesn’t want him to) it’s not hard to deduce they will indeed be taxed in order to offset for the those that Mitt cares for or likes. You know, people like him.

Mitt also falls short on his explanation of who these 47% that he cares nothing for are. It’s just somewhat disturbing that the guy’s going around blaming the President for dividing the country while he’s dismissing half as deadbeats. I just don’t think it sets well to be implying that disabled vets should be ashamed of themselves for having the audacity to think they’re entitled to not be starving in the streets that they fought to protect. That’s not who we are. We’re not Mitt Romneys. We have a condescending smirking Plutocrat stating the middle class are folks making around $250K while chastising teachers for complaining about their $70K salaries, all while denying us to see what kind of tax paying history he has. This is the arrogant non-caring hypocrite we’re dealing with.

Yes, Romney does indeed have a perception problem. The best thing he could do at this point is to just shut the hell up and hope for the best. He may as well as he continues to refuse to tell us anything about his agenda other than being a lapdog for corporate interest. That’s really not what a country trying to rise above the Bush ashes wants nor needs to hear.

Who can forget that immortal radio interview when WJR sent one of their reporters to talk with the 30,000 people standing in line to get some Obama bucks from his secret stash? Or how about the lady in Florida who voted for Obama because she thought he would pay her mortgage and fill her car’s gasoline tank?

For this to even be questioned is just ridiculous! Liberal Democrats have purposely constructed a beggar class to acquire and maintain political power. The elitists treat people like small children who must be suckled.

Andy, as you say in post #16 and then do your Mitt Romney flip-flop imitation “it really comes down to honesty”. You then say: “All Romney said was that the 47% who pay ZERO income tax are not going to connect with his message of lowering the tax rates”. Well, that’s not “ALL” he said which brings YOUR honesty into question. What he said was:

There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that’s an entitlement. And the government should not give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax.
My job is is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.

Got that? Mitt Romney said 47% “believe they are victims”. He said that 47% of Americans believe that government should provide them with not only food, health care, and housing but even included “you name it”. It’s as if just the hell with them all as “will vote for the president no matter what”.

So don’t base your rebuttal on some fabricated nonsense that “All Romney said was that the 47% who pay ZERO income tax are not going to connect with his message of lowering the tax rates”. That’s not all he said. I know it, you know it, and it’s documented as fact. Sure, you can cowardly run from it as that’s the only option you have. And you likely continue to distort those facts as this issue progressive. But as for today, your distortion of reality doesn’t fly. It, just like the egg, is in your face.

Mick,

Not every single democrat thinks they’re a victim, you just have your little partisan shades on. You’re confusing the leftist fringe with the left as a whole. My wife and I both voted for Obama, we both earn very respectable salaries and neither of us feels like a victim. Pull your head out.

- Dan

Buzz, your opinions, using my facts, are entertaining as well.
Sooo… tell me please.

If there are so many “nuances”(your words) to the causes of todays Middle East turmoil then why is this president and staff blaming only one man/video ?

Thinker…

Is that some kind of rebuttal ?
Pretty lame.

Obama wants an entitlement society constructed out of wealth redistribution.
Its the oldest liberal play and gets repeated every 4 years to convince blacks and minorities that they are victims of evil people who made it in life.
Hes stated bluntly, many times,as a senator and president that he favors wealth redistribution.

And cut the crap.
I already showed you examples of Barry and this administration apologizing to radicals.

@ Ronald

In regards to that part of the Romney remark, once again he is being honest. If you add up all the different bases of Obama support, it would come to about 47%. They pretty much all buy into the whole entitlement-society/wealth redistribution nonsense. Sorry, but I really do not see what the problem here is about what Romney said. Time to go fish in another pond.

@ BTT

Here is one Obama quote during an interview with Al Arabiya on 1/27/2009:

“My job to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your enemy. We sometimes make mistakes. We have not been perfect.”

There are many more:

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2009/06/barack-obamas-top-10-apologies-how-the-president-has-humiliated-a-superpower

“Who said anything about “blacks and minorities”? Please explain that in relation to Romney’s comments, which seemed to relate to people who don’t pay federal income taxes, expect handouts from government, and take no responsibility for themselves, and are 47% of the population.”Thats about right.
Its interesting to watch the liberal spin on this.
First they mention that a percentage of that 47% are seniors, the rest families with kids.
But nowhere do they mention the fact that theres still, among everyone, 47% that are dependent on some government assistance, monthly check, or food stamps.
And yes, there is a 47% of our population like you that is so immersed in re-distributive moonbattery that you will vote for Barack Marx no matter what truths hit you upside the head.
Call it anyway you want.
Those receiving out number those paying.
6 trillion bucks in 4 years,16 TRILLION TOTAL, at 40 cents on each of those borrowed dollars has GOT TO STOP !!!

“The argument is not the percentage of people that will not vote for Romney.”

Yes it is. Thats the point he was making.
Thats why you’re blabbing all your crap.
Who votes for who is what this is all about.

“My job is is not to worry about those people”.

As far as their votes go, theres no point in worrying about them.
As I said;
” there is a 47% of our population like you that is so immersed in re-distributive moonbattery that you will vote for Barack Marx no matter what truths hit you upside the head.”

Capice ?

“you’re a deadbeat leach who demands the government gives you hand outs at to you anything you want or “you name it”.”

Yeah, birth control, abortions, mortgages, Solyndra, and all the morons he wasted trillions bailing out.
More than half the country voted for the guy who said he’d spread the wealth.
WTF dont you get about that ?

We are where we are at because of deadbeat leeches.

Now, while Romneys words are open to many nuanced interpretations theres no nuanced interpretations to dickheads quotes which solidify my argument one hundred percent.

“” But, the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and of more basic issues such as political and economic justice in society. To that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn’t that radical. It didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as its been interpreted and Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. Says what the states can’t do to you. Says what the Federal government can’t do to you, but doesn’t say what the Federal government or State government must do on your behalf, and that hasn’t shifted and one of the, I think, tragedies of the civil rights movement was, um, because the civil rights movement became so court focused I think there was a tendancy to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalition of powers through which you bring about redistributive change. In some ways we still suffer from that.”

http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/10/26/audio-obama-the-marxist/

Lets see you spin that crap into ice cream.

“It didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as its been interpreted and Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. Says what the states can’t do to you. Says what the Federal government can’t do to you, but doesn’t say what the Federal government or State government must do on your behalf,”

Its a pretty far cry from Kennedys ” ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country.

Hi Andy:
“Here is one Obama quote during an interview with Al Arabiya on 1/27/2009:”

Nice try. Can you confine your answer to Romney’s attack on the Cairo embassy statement that was the subject of controversy last week, as referenced in your OP?

Hi Micky!
Nice try. How do you get the “Blacks and minorities” bit from Romney’s comments? I am curious.

@ Ronald,

I was not avoiding the subject. You, yourself, quoted a different part of Romney’s speech which was on a different, but related subject. If one adds up Obama’s base of die-hard supporters, it would probably be close to 47% whom will vote for Obama no matter what since they agree with his stance on Big Government and redistribution.

I’m wondering Andy, if you can actually look back at what you write with a straight face.

For starters, it’s a known fact that only 18% of workers pay no income or payroll tax. Regardless, surely you understand that a lot of Obama supporters are quite wealthy. And it should be within your grasp of comprehension to agree that many of that 47% of non federal income tax payers are Romney supporters, or folks that will not vote Obama. They would include many disabled vets, retired workers, and displaced or underemployed workers who are adamant gun supporters, Pro Life, Evangelicals, anti gay marriage, and the list just goes on. There really is no evidence that seniors or parents raising children, because of being exempt from federal income tax, have become more liberal as a result of that. As a matter of fact, seniors and suburban families have actually turned more conservative over recent years.

Now stay with me as this is important (finger wagging), the 47% that pay no taxes (aside from a significant # of Fortune 500 companies, who are people too, who paid negative taxes, which Romney supports even lower taxes than that for them, which may very well include Romney which suggests what he may be hiding) are mainly made up of the very poor, seniors, veterans, and families raising children.

Your claim “it would probably be close to 47% whom will vote for Obama no matter what since they agree with his stance on Big Government and redistribution” should be divorced from reality by even your standards.

While the GOP is scrambling to pick of the pieces, Democratic polls surge, prominent GOP leaders are ducking, and the Romney campaign goes into full blown damage control, you basically parrot Mitt who was saying that the 47% of non-federal income tax paying Americans are essentially deadbeats pretending to be victims, looking for a handout by choice, and will only vote for policies that promote their laziness. But wait(finger wagging once more) He went on to say that he has no interest in that half of the country and that the government needs to change this. So it should stand to reason that Mitt has every intentions of raising taxes on those that can least afford it while lowering taxes on corporations that already pay near zero to negative taxes. While amongst his wealthy cohorts, Mitt insured his push for Plutocracy and Social Darwinism. There’s your argument.

Heh, Ron & Thinker are obfuscating, worried about stupid little pedantic crap, trying to trip up people over unsubstantial crap and wont even go near post # 36 where Barry calls freedom from over=bounding state authorities “negative” and how the constitution fails to say what the fed and states must do for you.

Saw a great clip on the Daily Show of Craig T. Nelson on Fox saying, “I was poor, I collected welfare and food stamps, but nobody did anything for me”.

Priceless.

Fox delivers more entertainment per hour than any other station.

I’ve seen this movie already. I know a lot about false political messiahs that promise wealth distribution, been in more than one banana-republic. Prepare for ultra-corruption, generalized poverty and unchecked government power-grab. Meh, we are already there.

Buzz;
“The Democratic Party is comprised of 63% non-Hispanic whites and 37% that are categorized as minorities.”

WTF is “non Hispanic white” ?

Is it the same as a non Negro white ?
Or a non American Indian white ?
Or a non Asian white ?

You people are sick

I’m a half non German white and half non Danish white with a German last name.
Oh my God, I could be a non black non Talmudic Hasidic Jew.
Everyone get in their little boxes !

“Non-Hispanic white is how it is categorized in the census and any demographic data. It is merely the accepted semantics of designation.”

Yeah, you accept it ?,so that makes it right ?
Whos responsible for that ?
You morons have a box for any variation of people. Whats next ? Legislating bathrooms only for Hermaphrodites ?
This is how you guys convince people they’re divided victims.
If they’re not fat white republicans they’re victims.

“Saying Fox is good entertainment is as bad as being a radical Muslim?

Wow.”

Yup.
You cant take criticism without shooting the messenger.

“Glad to see your arguments have become so substantial.”

“I wasn’t aware I was making an argument, I was merely providing accurate demographic information.”

No, it was an opinion accurate only in your head that had nothing to do with the topic being discussed

“It was done without malice, which is why I don’t feel the need to include sarcasm or name-calling.”

Here we go with the feigned outrage over words when half of your words are useless garbage.
EXAMPLE;
“It was done without malice”

What bunch of sht.
Your whole premise is malicious otherwise you wouldnt of mentioned “ONLY FOX” !!
Grow up for Christs sake !

“This isn’t blood sport, but merely people voicing their opinions for amusement.”

Speak for yourself.

“In other words, I am not trying to win anything and I am not so foolish as to think I am going to change anyone’s opinion here.”

Thats sad. But then again, liberals always say they dont believe in winners and losers.
Only when they lose

“The statistics were from the United States Census, therefore they are not an opinion that “only exists in my head”.”

I wasnt arguing statistics.
I agreed I had my stats backwards and corrected them.
I was arguing the applied stoooooopid PC terminology defining those stats.

Why “non Hispanic white”?
Why not non Asian white ?
I’m from S.Africa.
But, but… Africa Americans are all black !!!

AAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! My Melanin ! What Happened ?

If theres any source of entertainment on this planet its watching liberals and their idiotic PC labeling and terminologies painting themselves into a corner.

That reminds me.

If theres so many nuances to blame for the middle east violence then why was Barry n gang blaming only one man/video ?

Thats another SIMPLE question you never answered.

Patrick, in today’s world of political rhetoric, I’m not sure how one would distinguish moonbats from registered Democrats, wingnuts from registered Republicans, or unhinged lunatics from Rightpundit.com writers. I mean, you have many on the left loyal to Maddow and Lawrence while many on the right obediently genuflect to Hannity, Beck, and Mike Savage. While I agree MSNBC towers left, you guys still pretend Fox is fair and balanced. How nuts is that? Where do you officially obtain your official definitions, Urban Dictionary? From a party that hasn’t quite relinquished Rush Limbaugh as their official leader, what the hell are you talking about?

Patrick, don’t dismiss Rush so quickly. We saw the last election cycle that many a prominent GOP leader, or wannabe GOP leader, can be humbled.

Micky, hey I don’t care about a mistake, heck I make them all the time.

I simply don’t think that posting a census statistic was making an argument.

Now other statistics can be mined to make any case. Heck, I am in the business of looking at a set of numbers and “making” them tell a story, which may, or may not be, true.

Unfortunately for the American public, everyone in the medical industry does it, which results in the wrong treatment being administered at an inflated price.

You would think there would be some kind of oversight.

“these people have been defined by the left as victims and sold that bill of goods by the left for over 50 years now and they’re still b!tching about the same crap they were b!tching about 50 years ago.”

Behold an irony-free man! Romney talks about 47% and Micky immediately goes to race, fulminating about how “blacks and minorities” are fulminating with hostility. Some sly manipulator told Micky that all his financial problems are a result of liberals coddling unworthy minorities under the Community Reinvestment Act, and Micky grabbed this idea and seethed about it for years.

Thank you, Micky, for confirming that there are people whose racial animosities can be easily manipulated and steered for political purposes.

Hi Andy,
“The statement Romney was complaining about on the Cairo embassy attack came from diplomats in Cairo. Initially, the State Department in WDC supported the statement, which included the ‘pre-apology’ about the You Tube video. As we now know, about nine hours after the statement was issued, a mob then began protesting and eventually assaulted the embassy.”

Thank you Andy. It sounds like you are recognizing that Romney’s indefensible attack is indefensible. Thank you.

“Non Hispanic Whites”

Good grief

Hint…
(try ‘Caucasian’)

Micky,

Is that anything like a non-Caucasian Hispanic as defined by the New York Times?

A usual Andy, you reinvent the argument and quite poorly at that. The real issues fall more in line with an anti-economy GOP (even admitting it in order to unseat Obama) rather than an Obama bankrupting America. Obama did not oversee a spending spree but rather a depleted budget and revenue shortage brought to us from the GOP spending spree. I’ve argued that while you’ve ran from that. It’s like you promoting lower taxes and less regulations while running from a simple question of how much lower do you want corporate taxes (which stand at about negative to 2% for the most profitable) to be or to what extent do we deregulate them. You can’t answer as it exposes how the knees of your tin man talking points buckle when faced with a reasonable argument. And now you want to run from it it as “that’s too old of news to look back”.

You want to dismiss the 47% “alleged” blunder while supporting it at the same time, cherry picking what suits your agenda while questioning the authenticity from parts that proves how unhinged that agenda is. How cowardly and hypocritical is that? If I’m not mistaken, Mitt has acknowledged it, endorsed it, and doubled down on it only to say that he cold have worded it better. Again, do even you seriously take yourself serious? Seriously!

Fish in a barrel!

Andy: “??? You are really grasping at straws if you think I am agreeing that what Romney said is indefensible.”

Oh, Geez. Here is what Romney said.
“I’m outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi. It’s disgraceful that the Obama administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.”

Please defend the second sentence with reference to what the U.S. embassy actually said. And just to be helpful, I recommend that you remember to dance around what Romney himself later said about the controversial film:

“…the idea of using something that some people consider sacred and then parading that out a negative way is simply inappropriate and wrong. And I wish people wouldn’t do it…I think the whole film is a terrible idea, I think him making it, promoting it showing it is disrespectful to people of other faiths. I don’t think that should happen.” (ABC News)

“Please defend the second sentence with reference to what the U.S. embassy actually said. ”

The Embassy and Consulate both warned the state dept. that they’d been attacked previously and the sht was about to hit the fan long before the video scapegoat was brought up.
Hillary, Barry, Rice, all made apologies for free speech.
These chickenshts put the entire blame and responsibility on one man, one video.

THAT IS DISGUSTING AND NOT DEFENSIBLE.

Romneys statement was actually timed perfectly.

Romney campaign senior foreign policy adviser Richard Williamson: “That’s a silly question, almost anything might wait… I came here to talk about the failed policies in the Middle East, which is what the American people are interested [in]. The failed policies of leading from behind. What you want to do is play a process ‘getcha’ question. I don’t want to play your game… Governor Romney’s statement was fine, it was acceptable, it was right. …We look forward to talking about this substance when you’re available.”

“Mitt Romney filled the void on behalf of the First Amendment, refused to shy away from American first principles, and excoriated the embassy’s posture (the White House eventually did the same). … Nevertheless, the insta-narrative is that Romney “jumped the gun” by “politicizing” the tragedy in Libya. He did nothing of the sort. … The media is blaming Romney for capitalizing politically on deaths that he *did not know about* when he released a (generally strong) repudiation of our Cairo embassy’s reactions to a *different event.* They’d criticize him for any action he took here, unless it involved essentially applauding and agreeing with everything the Obama administration has done, then sitting quietly in a corner.”

“the idea of using something that some people consider sacred and then parading that out a negative way is simply inappropriate and wrong. And I wish people wouldn’t do it…I think the whole film is a terrible idea, I think him making it, promoting it showing it is disrespectful to people of other faiths. I don’t think that should happen.” (ABC News)”

Yeah, so what ?
I feel that way, most people feel that way.
He didnt say it was the sole reason for the turmoil like the gutless wonder you love.

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“UPDATE: Romney Defends Free Speech, Not Obama
by KEITH KOFFLER on SEPTEMBER 12, 2012, 12:48 PM
Speaking this morning at a press conference, Gov. Mitt Romney defended freedom of speech as part of his criticism of the attacks on the U.S. diplomatic posts in Egypt and Libya and the killing of our ambassodor to Libya, Christopher Stevens.

He didn’t directly relate the right to free speech to the attacks, which were waged in response to a movie desecrating Mohammed, but at least he mentioned it – something the president failed to do in his own remarks this morning.

America will not tolerate attacks against our citizens and against our embassies. We’ll defend also our constitutional rights of speech and assembly and religion.”

http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2012/09/12/update-romney-defends-free-speech-obama/

Have a seat

Hi Micky: You never stop giving…

Romney: “the idea of using something that some people consider sacred and then parading that out a negative way is simply inappropriate and wrong. And I wish people wouldn’t do it…I think the whole film is a terrible idea, I think him making it, promoting it showing it is disrespectful to people of other faiths. I don’t think that should happen.” (ABC News)”

Micky: “Yeah, so what ? I feel that way, most people feel that way.”

…and so does the U.S. embassy in Cairo. But when they say it…. Well, please compare and contrast what the embassy said with what Romney said, and emphasize the specific words that make one “disgraceful sympathy with those who kill Americans” and the other “so what I feel the same way”.

(I don’t need to wait… I am already laughing.)

Micky-the-irony-free-man is at it again:

“We’re not the ones out there pandering to every minority or “non white” as you say telling em they’re victims. Its 50 years later and they’re all still on the plantation.”

Micky is angry that minorities are angry, feels victimized by minorities who feel victimized, and gets riled up by race-baiters who tell him that minorities are getting riled up by race baiters. It seems that those minorities really, really upset him and the he finds validation from sly manipulators who tell him that the world’s financial problems are a result of coddling unworthy minorities. And that’s why we should hate liberals and vote for Republicans!

Micky, why don’t you try seething about the “majority” for a change? It might be a refreshing break for you.

Well Ron, Thinker
I guess from now on whenever I or the Right Pundits think some “fell off the left side of the flat earth moonbat” has crossed the line we’ll just terminate YOU for it instead.

“Micky, why don’t you try seething about the “majority” for a change? It might be a refreshing break for you.”

You mean the majorities who voted in Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood under American pie in the sky dreams of democracy where democracy means choosing from a larger selection of murderers ?

You guys elected this moron and his policies.

And do us all a favor.
Get to know what you’re talking about when it comes to Islams radical roots and maybe you’ll stop arguing thru such a stupid and naive prism of partisan hackery.

Mitt is not the reason why people are dying.
Guards without bullets in their guns, or no guards at all is a good place to start aligning your blame.
Genius

“Thank you once again. Your responses are implicit admissions that Romney’s initial dumb remark is indefensible.”

Yeah right.
Too bad you can elaborate on that bullsht.

Please learn from it ?
Your not too bright, are you ?
No one here has denied it was a blunder.
Matter of fact I stated he could of framed the comment better.

I also stated that within that 47% you and the media failed to notice or mention that Romney was explicitly referring to “freebees” such as food stamps, welfare, govt.healthcare etc.
He was not and did not attack those who’ve paid into systems they are rightfully entitled to such as SS, medicaid, unemployment ins.
Learn from that Genius !

So, your arguing over nothing just to hear your narcissistic self esteemed bullsht that you think is so astute.
As Andy said, but I’ll say it differently.
You’re employing answered questions in a circular clusterf*** only to seem as you have an argument anymore.
You dont.
Rich Lowrey clears this up in the first paragraph you linked us to;

“The best defense of Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney’s instantly notorious “47 percent” remarks at a May fundraiser is that he made a bad point badly.”

SEE THAT ?
“A Point” is still “a point”
Was it made badly ?
Yessireee !
But, still, a valid point, genius.

In addition.
With all the blunders on both sides Lowrey is doing us no favors by disparaging the one chance we have of removing the most “epic fail” president in history.
So, I really dont give a sht what he says whether his first paragraph makes him and you look like an idiot or not.
Fact is this.
Theres at least 47% of Americans that are ideologically immersed enough to vote for Obama no matter what failures rap them upside the head.
A good portion of them are so arrogant and on their knees in front of Barry and party thats its only sport and damned be the country.
Even myself is not so blinded by ideology to realize that as much as I detest him Clinton in office would be most excellent right now.
But, of course, his convention speech had all you idiots thinking Barry n Bill are one in the same.

Point n case….
Sebelius is now under fire for illegally issuing vouchers that gut Clintons welfare reform.

Learn from that

Micky, Micky, Micky!

Not just a “point”, but a “bad point”. So argue your bad point with Lowry, not me.

Andy will get it.

Regarding my latest declaration of victory, someday you and Andy will catch on that if I am bothering to call you on something, it is because I know that I will make you squirm (or at least Andy… Micky will just swagger like Monty Python’s Black Knight). Why do you keep falling for it?

@ BTT,

You just keep going on ahead and obey your masters at MSNBC and Media Matters and the rest of the nut-job media that is dedicated to attack Mitt Romney on minutia. If you want to know how I truly feel about Mitt, its pretty easy to find out. I wrote plenty of articles bashing him during the primaries. And when he gets elected, AND HE WILL GET ELECTED, then I will still have plenty to write about as I hold his feet to the fire.

As for Rich Lowry, I could care less what he thinks. I never bother reading the National Review. Other than maybe Jonah Goldberg, they’re a bunch of Beltway phonies, too! They have their ax to grind and I have my own. I’ve even lost all respect for Ann Coulter for her attacks on Newt.

“Regarding my latest declaration of victory, ”

Victorious in only showing what a totally blind party guru you are.
You’re on record showing nothing but ideological bigotry and hatred for anything right of far left idiocy.
I’ve mentioned other democrats whom I’d settle for right now as the executive opposed to Obama.
I have no problem with government aid in its many forms. People need help, I cannot approve of the way these programs are and have been managed.
You do.
You lose.

I (will brag) voluntarily,as free people do, have spent the last ten + years sobering people up and pointing them forward at no cost to anyone but myself.
For 8 years collected food and donated to the food pantries at Seventh Day Adventist and St.Marks Lutheran in Kaneohe,Hi.
I meet those people who are in need, and those who hustle the system. This is also where I meet those seeking sobriety.
It is a voluntary act. And its efficient.
Not one mandated by government and not supported by government taking from me what they have no business taking only so they can pay interest to the Chinese in order to pay for your diaphragm or birth control pills.
Sooooo….

I’m not going to listen to your idealistic bullsht about how evil and greedy the right is when its a fact that the right and its Christian population are the most altruistic, charitable demographic on earth doing more to help out of their own selflessness than any socialist Marxist initiatives ever have or will.
In 2010, of course it didn’t make all of the reports, Romney gave just over $4 million to charity – 30% of his income.
Obama “The Great Redistributor” donated just 1-5% to charity before running for president.

You’re the shrimp stuck on the treadmill.
Enjoy your victory

Micky: “He was not and did not attack those who’ve paid into systems they are rightfully entitled to such as SS, medicaid, unemployment ins. Learn from that Genius !”

Micky sounds like a fan of Socialism as long as he thinks the benefits are mostly going to his own kind.

On the tax issue, Romney overlooks that the folks at the bottom pay lots of taxes (payroll tax, sales tax, property tax, gas tax, telephone tax, cigarette tax, etc. etc.). And that is not even counting the indirect taxes that conservatives are quick to trumpet in other contexts. (Recall the occasional claim: “Taxes on business all get passed on to customers”).

And Micky will concede that people who get government relief at one point in their lives also pay lots of taxes over the entire course of their lives (like Romney’s dad and Obama’s mom).

Romney’s annual tax burden seems to be less than 1% of his net worth. Relative to his ability to pay, his tax burden is frivolous. You can probably say something similar about the angry donors in the Romney video. But you can’t say the same about the tax burden on the lower half, who often have little in savings and live paycheck to paycheck.

Progressive tax system? Bah!

“Micky sounds like a fan of Socialism as long as he thinks the benefits are mostly going to his own kind.”
Seriously.
Arent you embarassed in the least ?
Could you speak out of your ass any better ?
Or are you just an incredibly obtuse and argumentative jerk?
WTF is wrong with you ?

The “benefits” are my own time and money you ignoramus. And those in need are not labeled by liberal bigotry.

Obviously you have no idea what socialism means.
Communal ownership and government ownership are called socialism. That, by definition, is what socialism is.
Numbskull

“Were done buddy.
In real life I’d put you in a straight jacket and stuff my underwear in your mouth.
You’re just a repetitious mindless ass hole going nowhere”

I think that was Micky’s way of saying “Good bye and good luck”.

Perhaps, not.

Hmmm…

Confucius say;
“Lady who fly upside down and Grasshopper on treadmill have crack up”

Micky: “No matter how many times you remind them that were talking about ‘federal taxes’ they keep puking koolaid.”

er… federal excise tax on liquor, collected by the “revenuers”. Gas tax too, telephone tax too, etc. etc. etc.., and don’t forget the big one: payroll taxes (which is a tax on income after all, paid to the feds).

Your typical wino client may pay a larger share of their net worth in federal taxes on booze and cigarettes than the paltry <1% income taxes paid by Romney.

“Your typical wino client may pay a larger share of their net worth in federal taxes on booze and cigarettes”

We also pay for his foodstamps, welfare, hospital visits, jail time, legal proceedings, accidents he causes,and the collateral damages of the broken families (more foodstamps, welfare etc), treatment.
Federal taxes on heroin, meth, coke, pharmaceuticals ?
Addiction costs this country 1000s of times more than it pays, genius.
You have no idea what you’re talking about.

Romney paid 13% because he did not write off the full 4 million he donated.
Barry wrote off the paltry 2 million he donated.

Once again Mr. Anal Retainer.
We are not talking about state sales taxes.
FEDERAL TAXES

You lose.

But you won the #100 spot in your most useless conversation.

Micky (aka the Black Knight): “Once again Mr. Anal Retainer. We are not talking about state sales taxes. FEDERAL TAXES. You lose.”

Hmmm…. FEDERAL liquor tax, FEDERAL cigarette tax, FEDERAL telephone tax, not to mention FEDERAL payroll tax on wage income. That’s why I mentioned them. Is it possible to live in America without paying FEDERAL taxes? Seems hard.

Your wino clients pay a bigger share of their net worth in FEDERAL taxes than Mitt Romney’s <1%. And then you have all the other abundant state taxes that they also pay. So Mitt Romney's comments are foolish and you would do best to simply disown them and move on.

So some get more than they pay in? That's how social safety nets work, like Medicare.

“So some get more than they pay in? That’s how social safety nets work, like Medicare.”

Look ass hole.
Its common fact that addiction costs this country billions more than any cigarette or liquor tax will cover.
Cigarette taxes are already designated for SCHIP and its not enough.
What addicts pay into the fed is nothing and most of them do feel entitled to subsidies because the addict thinking is self ‘pity and its everyone elses fault they’re wasted except for their own ‘.
Wise up and dont tell this 15 year sober addict his business cuz I’ll make you look far dumber than you already are.
The fact is this.
You can poke around and look for every person who drops a couple dimes into the fed and it still doesnt answer the questions I asked you (below) which you will not answer because you know the answer will end your bullsht garblings.
Junkies and drunks pay fed taxes?
Most of them dont moron.
They beg, steal, lie and cheat so you can bet whatever they paid into the system did not come out of their pockets but rather enablers such as woefully ignorant people like you who toss em a buck instead of a hand and a burger.

Now, what government issued civil subsidies, entitlements and programs have not gone hundreds of times over budget since their legislation ?
Politicians and citizens have both used these programs for all the wrong reasons and they are part of the 47% that are bankrupting the nation.
Not our seniors, not our vets and not those who use assistance only when they need it.
Like Romney, I dont “worry” about reaching out to these morons because everyone knows, especially you, they’d never vote for me or him.
But we do care about all human life except for those that would try to kill us.
If Romney is such a greedy man then explain his donating 30% of his income to charity against Barrys cheesy 2 %

“See, some people see this as a place where people merely express different opinions.”

But Grasshopper, you said, you come here for entertainment only.
Its free, so quite yer b!tching

As BTT says, your(Mitts)comments are foolish and you would do best to simply disown them and move on.

This thread has gone over a hundred comments with Ron and Thinker saying the same crap over and over every different way they can, obfuscating to every detraction and distraction they can find under the sun.
At this point they,re much like you when you lose an argument because you wont or cant answer pertinent questions that bring truth and answers to the debate til we see posts from them dedicated to nothing but personal attacks.

http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=10496&cp=all#comments

“It’s rather amusing watching Micky’s head explode from a splash of rhetoric after being a consistent mouthpiece for a site that promotes nothing but shear spin.”
So yeah Buzz, excuse the fck outta me if I labeled yours and their useless asses with a few appropriate descriptions.

You couldnt argue yourself out of a wet paper bag so your only means of esteem is to come after peoples vocabularies.

Sad, pathetic.

“I hate to tell you this, but most people are here for “entertainment”, (either for that or the comedy).”

So you admit you’re just wasting our time ?
We’ll make up our own minds if its alright with you. Speak for yourself.
But of course, this is not the first or last time we’ll hear a moonbat tell us our business.

“I have been reading this site for years”

“Reading”
No one believes you because you’ve only commented for a year, more or less.
I have been here for years, its verifiable unlike the half truths and lies you present.

“and have yet to see anyone waver. In fact, people tend to dig in their heels and become even more intractable.”

BS, if you in fact had been here for years you’d know my positions on pot, felons voting, abortion, and the faults I’ve presented on both sides.

“But I certainly don’t see it as bloodsport and tend to view it as merely a place where people voice their opinions, whereas you seem to be of the mind that you can beat an “opinion” into someone.”

More BS.
My opinion has always made the difference between fact an opinion.
You cant handle the facts otherwise you’d answer my questions confirming them.
The facts damn you, and you run like a chicken or mock me by saying “answer my questions !”

“why do I think that you don’t quietly exchange opinions with those other “misguided” guests?”

We/I do.
Because when people are debating face to face with others listening in they dont act as stupid as you.
And if you remember, you’d put it in context.
I mentioned that the reason I finally blew up was because I’d never discussed politics with them (my own family)before and was tired of everyone calling republicans pu$$ies, assuming like you do, that everyone id there or here for one reason or that everyone is a moonbat.
Well, they were all fcking wrong. No pussie here grasshopper. By the time I got done doing a Harper Valley PTA on their un-informed asses you could hear pin drop.
I know my sht and did not have to take 5 minutes like you losers do to google my statement.
Fck you, and fck my mom, her moonbat hubby and all their friends because I will never change the positions I believe will better life for my wife and kids.
This president is an abject failure by all standards, liberal and conservative.
And makes me physically ill that lemmings like you wont admit it or one thing hes done wrong at the cost of our countrys future.

“By the way, as you like to call people names, I didn’t care at all about the term “grasshopper” it was the context of “Listen up, grasshopper”. It is the same condescending tone as when you constantly tell others to “wise up”.

While I rarely agree with your opinions, simply out of respect, I would never speak down to you any sooner than I would call you a name or spew obscenities in your direction.”

Yet you cry about being called an insect and lie about what I and others say.
Newsflash ! You boss called the death of four Americans in Libya a “bump in the road”
Soooooooo…
Take your selective feigned outrage to your fellow lemmings and see how far it gets you

Tell me Buzz.
If most people do what we do just for entertainment then why did Obama put so much money into internet propaganda in 08 ?
My voice, like it or not, is just as valid as Barack Obamas.
At least I dont lie to the whole country, never mind one person.

Wise up grasshopper

“Fck you, and fck my mom, her moonbat hubby and all their friends”

Yikes!

“Because it is modern advertising?”

Note the new liberal code word for propaganda, platitudes and empty promises.

“And sorry, but while your (or my) voice is valid it may lack the weight or gravatis of, oh I don’t know, the person currently holding the most important position in the world.”

“Vulnerable”, not “important”
No one takes him seriously anymore.
If his voice were so important Pelosi wouldnt put him on hold and the Arab world would be at peace.
I and the peoples voices will always be more important than any one mans voice.
Wise up and pull your head out of his ass.

“That went for Bush when he was President.”

And he knows his place, we dont have to listen to him whining like past presidents Carter or Clinton.

“If you were at a table with a group of friends and Bush was there, would he be amongst the most intelligent people at the table?”

He’d be the most wise,honorable and respected.
Intel is subjective.
You think Harvard lawyers are the epitome of intelligent.
Thats stupid.

“I had dinner with a group of people last night and I know what my answer would be.”

Do I have to tip the waiter ?

I had breakfast with 40 people at a church foodbank on Saturday.
They all think Obama is an idiot.
Just sayin.

“Uh oh, I hear a nickname for the President emerging…”

Worst most un-transparent but predictable president ever.
Closet Marxist.
Born again socialist.
Racist.
Divider in Chief.
Anti Christ
Allah
Hussein (oops, hes dead)

Bye bye

“He was delicately observing that no revolution or dramatic political change runs in a straight line. There are gains and setbacks but, one hopes, forward progress in the long run toward peaceful democracies. ”

Oh good grief !
STFU

Thousand are dying everyday.
Thats not a bump.
A freaking volcano is blowing up.
Get it right.
The video was a bump. But the leftist morons say its the main reason.
Iran threatening genocide on Israel.
Iran building nukes
Pakistan calling us “not an allie, an enemy”.
Afghans trained by us killing 51 coalition troops.
Syria killing 20,000 civilians,stockpiling chemical weapons.
Islamic terrorists killing our Ambassador and staff.
25 Embassies/Consulates across the Mid East threatened or destroyed.
Anti American/pro radical Islamists protests across the planet in almost every country.
The Muslim Brotherhood is in power and threatening Israel.
We are being asked by the Brotherhood to make legislation outlawing insults Islam

You’re supporting the jerk who calls this “bumps” ?
And you’re upset because I give people labels half as much as liberals ?

You’re about as useful as spoons in a butcher shop