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		<title>By: micky</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 18:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the latest Pisher.

Not that the generals opinion is of any relevance I just thought I&#039;d toss in a little tid bit that goes further to shredding your asinine position

This morning in an interview with Martha McCallum general Patraeus was asked about waterboarding.

There&#039;s no transcript or video up yet but off my DVR I&#039;ll quote the general and Martha.

Martha;
&quot; The former vice president has spoken out on waterboarding which I know you&#039;re against and that he believes it saved lives.

Patraeus;

&quot; Well my thoughts are that its time to stop arguing about the past probably, take the rear view mirrors off this bus and look to the future. Again if you start with the concept that we ought to live our values that&#039;s exactly what we should do as we move forward.

Martha;

&quot;The argument for having that discussion now is the possibility that a suspect could be in custody and an attack could be imminent.

Patraeus;

&quot; That&#039;s always the debate, the doomsday scenario, that one I will be happy to leave with our judicial system to determine whether there might be an exception that would require extraordinary but very rapid approval to deal with. But for the vast majority of the cases our experience, downrange if you will is that the techniques that are in the army files manual that lays out how we treat detainees how we interrogate them, those techniques work, that&#039;s our experience in this business.

Martha;

So is sending this signal that were not going to use these kind of techniques anymore what kind of impact does that have on people that do us harm in the field that you operate in &quot;?

Patraeus;

&quot; Well what I would ask is does that not take away from our enemies a tool which again they&#039;ve beaten us around the head and shoulders in the court of public opinion.&quot;

So, as you can see as a soldier he holds his own perspective but also allows for extreme measures by saying if they are called for he would leave it up to the courts.
What he did not say is that it should &quot;NOT&quot;  be allowed under any circumstance like the rest of you moonbats are saying.

I&#039;m sure within at least a 24 hour period this whole video will go viral and you&#039;ll get to see that I&#039;m not some full o sh*t punk who just likes to digest selective crap, make stuff up, pull it outta his rump and call it truth.

There are sections in the interview where he undoubtedly dodges questions or eludes to having others be responsible for the answer and seems to be more worried about our image in some cases, but in the complete interview you&#039;ll see that he places great faith in the judicial branch to make decisions based on crucial circumstances and that he also thinks we should move forward and unlike you morons not try to look back and prosecute those for what was legal at the time, NO MATTER WHAT YOU WANT TO CALL IT TODAY !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the latest Pisher.</p>
<p>Not that the generals opinion is of any relevance I just thought I&#8217;d toss in a little tid bit that goes further to shredding your asinine position</p>
<p>This morning in an interview with Martha McCallum general Patraeus was asked about waterboarding.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no transcript or video up yet but off my DVR I&#8217;ll quote the general and Martha.</p>
<p>Martha;<br />
&#8221; The former vice president has spoken out on waterboarding which I know you&#8217;re against and that he believes it saved lives.</p>
<p>Patraeus;</p>
<p>&#8221; Well my thoughts are that its time to stop arguing about the past probably, take the rear view mirrors off this bus and look to the future. Again if you start with the concept that we ought to live our values that&#8217;s exactly what we should do as we move forward.</p>
<p>Martha;</p>
<p>&#8220;The argument for having that discussion now is the possibility that a suspect could be in custody and an attack could be imminent.</p>
<p>Patraeus;</p>
<p>&#8221; That&#8217;s always the debate, the doomsday scenario, that one I will be happy to leave with our judicial system to determine whether there might be an exception that would require extraordinary but very rapid approval to deal with. But for the vast majority of the cases our experience, downrange if you will is that the techniques that are in the army files manual that lays out how we treat detainees how we interrogate them, those techniques work, that&#8217;s our experience in this business.</p>
<p>Martha;</p>
<p>So is sending this signal that were not going to use these kind of techniques anymore what kind of impact does that have on people that do us harm in the field that you operate in &#8220;?</p>
<p>Patraeus;</p>
<p>&#8221; Well what I would ask is does that not take away from our enemies a tool which again they&#8217;ve beaten us around the head and shoulders in the court of public opinion.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, as you can see as a soldier he holds his own perspective but also allows for extreme measures by saying if they are called for he would leave it up to the courts.<br />
What he did not say is that it should &#8220;NOT&#8221;  be allowed under any circumstance like the rest of you moonbats are saying.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure within at least a 24 hour period this whole video will go viral and you&#8217;ll get to see that I&#8217;m not some full o sh*t punk who just likes to digest selective crap, make stuff up, pull it outta his rump and call it truth.</p>
<p>There are sections in the interview where he undoubtedly dodges questions or eludes to having others be responsible for the answer and seems to be more worried about our image in some cases, but in the complete interview you&#8217;ll see that he places great faith in the judicial branch to make decisions based on crucial circumstances and that he also thinks we should move forward and unlike you morons not try to look back and prosecute those for what was legal at the time, NO MATTER WHAT YOU WANT TO CALL IT TODAY !!!</p>
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		<title>By: lisab</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 00:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but since it was not torture ... 

you lose 

bye bye

stomp your feet all you want, but until you impeach pelosi and obama who both knew of it and said nothing, you are just a political brown noser with no credibility</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but since it was not torture &#8230; </p>
<p>you lose </p>
<p>bye bye</p>
<p>stomp your feet all you want, but until you impeach pelosi and obama who both knew of it and said nothing, you are just a political brown noser with no credibility</p>
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		<title>By: lisab</title>
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		<dc:creator>lisab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 00:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Petraeus is not in the White House, no. So?&quot;

sooo you like to pick the comments of one man when they support your argument yet ignore a poll of hundreds.

when obama stops quickly you must hurt your nose</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Petraeus is not in the White House, no. So?&#8221;</p>
<p>sooo you like to pick the comments of one man when they support your argument yet ignore a poll of hundreds.</p>
<p>when obama stops quickly you must hurt your nose</p>
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		<title>By: micky</title>
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		<dc:creator>micky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 22:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lose because you think opinions trump facts and laws ?
DUDE, you lost a long time ago.

You havent and cant refute me, thats the bottom line. So instead like a little baby all you do is stomp and kick and whine and gurgle &quot;you lose&quot;
I aint lost nothing you pathetic puke.

Until you can refute the facts I present you will continue to look like the clueless liar you are who seems to think he can say the same thing in every post and prove some point
You have been proven to be a liar from the start of this thread and not failed yet to maintain that image


I&#039;ve got news for you buddy, we are a nation of laws, not a nation of men.
Obama, Patraeus, McCain, are only men with opinions who chose the more negative description of a method.

Waterboarding was legal in 2001-02-03.

It was called waterboarding in 2001-02-03

The majority of the military votes republican. You have not proven otherwise

Obama wont release the memos because they&#039;ll give the examples where waterboarding worked.

Agent after agent including Obamas own staff say waterboarding worked.

Lives were saved, plots averted and more terrorists captured as a result

As I said before. All this crap you obfuscate to is irrelevant, a waste of time and space.
Water boarding was legal at the period in question, congress was aware it was being used, Pelosi has made this point for us.

Funny how the left cried General &quot;Betrayus&quot; and crucified him during his testimony to the surge on capital hill. But now hes this god because he is of the opinion that waterboarding doesnt work. 
&quot;oooh, hes just one of Bushs cronies making all this stuff up&quot;
Whats even funnier is that you say Patraeus is listening to Obama yet you list an example of Patraeus&#039;s leadership and then say Obama is following Patraeus&#039;s example, you just cant get out the way of your own idiocy fast enough, can you ?

Make up your minds moonbats, you&#039;re pathetic.

Facts trump bullsh*t anyday.
You will continue to lose as long as you keep thinking that just because some suit says its torture its torture, or that opoinions are what constitutes the law..
And even if it was out and out torture so f*ckin what ?
By not answering my question you&#039;ve made it pretty clear that instead of extracting info and stuffing your idiotic pride you would let your country burn to the ground. Or in the case I presented you&#039;d let you mom and sis be raped and murdered.

You guys opened this can of worms and now you all look about as bright as Pisher trying to put all the worms back in the can that have democratic names on them.
Obama said he wanted investigations. All the dems who spoke out against waterboarding after years of being okay with it said WHOA BOSS, WTF ? !!! You&#039;ll make us all look like partisan hypocrits if you do that !!!
And so Obama retracted it all and said like the church lady &quot;never mind&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lose because you think opinions trump facts and laws ?<br />
DUDE, you lost a long time ago.</p>
<p>You havent and cant refute me, thats the bottom line. So instead like a little baby all you do is stomp and kick and whine and gurgle &#8220;you lose&#8221;<br />
I aint lost nothing you pathetic puke.</p>
<p>Until you can refute the facts I present you will continue to look like the clueless liar you are who seems to think he can say the same thing in every post and prove some point<br />
You have been proven to be a liar from the start of this thread and not failed yet to maintain that image</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got news for you buddy, we are a nation of laws, not a nation of men.<br />
Obama, Patraeus, McCain, are only men with opinions who chose the more negative description of a method.</p>
<p>Waterboarding was legal in 2001-02-03.</p>
<p>It was called waterboarding in 2001-02-03</p>
<p>The majority of the military votes republican. You have not proven otherwise</p>
<p>Obama wont release the memos because they&#8217;ll give the examples where waterboarding worked.</p>
<p>Agent after agent including Obamas own staff say waterboarding worked.</p>
<p>Lives were saved, plots averted and more terrorists captured as a result</p>
<p>As I said before. All this crap you obfuscate to is irrelevant, a waste of time and space.<br />
Water boarding was legal at the period in question, congress was aware it was being used, Pelosi has made this point for us.</p>
<p>Funny how the left cried General &#8220;Betrayus&#8221; and crucified him during his testimony to the surge on capital hill. But now hes this god because he is of the opinion that waterboarding doesnt work.<br />
&#8220;oooh, hes just one of Bushs cronies making all this stuff up&#8221;<br />
Whats even funnier is that you say Patraeus is listening to Obama yet you list an example of Patraeus&#8217;s leadership and then say Obama is following Patraeus&#8217;s example, you just cant get out the way of your own idiocy fast enough, can you ?</p>
<p>Make up your minds moonbats, you&#8217;re pathetic.</p>
<p>Facts trump bullsh*t anyday.<br />
You will continue to lose as long as you keep thinking that just because some suit says its torture its torture, or that opoinions are what constitutes the law..<br />
And even if it was out and out torture so f*ckin what ?<br />
By not answering my question you&#8217;ve made it pretty clear that instead of extracting info and stuffing your idiotic pride you would let your country burn to the ground. Or in the case I presented you&#8217;d let you mom and sis be raped and murdered.</p>
<p>You guys opened this can of worms and now you all look about as bright as Pisher trying to put all the worms back in the can that have democratic names on them.<br />
Obama said he wanted investigations. All the dems who spoke out against waterboarding after years of being okay with it said WHOA BOSS, WTF ? !!! You&#8217;ll make us all look like partisan hypocrits if you do that !!!<br />
And so Obama retracted it all and said like the church lady &#8220;never mind&#8221;.</p>
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