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		<title>By: kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>though it seems the very liberal obama is &quot;racing&quot; now toward the center, he could never be trusted to choose supreme court justices from even a moderate view point.  he has flipped his abortion position just a wee bit to sound moderate but he is not.  pro life issues are not really in the hands of a president anyway to the degree you suggest.  our best hope in that area would be the men and women he nominates to the SCOTUS but with a liberal senate, who knows the outcome?  mccain is our best shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>though it seems the very liberal obama is &#8220;racing&#8221; now toward the center, he could never be trusted to choose supreme court justices from even a moderate view point.  he has flipped his abortion position just a wee bit to sound moderate but he is not.  pro life issues are not really in the hands of a president anyway to the degree you suggest.  our best hope in that area would be the men and women he nominates to the SCOTUS but with a liberal senate, who knows the outcome?  mccain is our best shot.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve noticed that Obama has been doing a lot of &#039;refining&#039; his positions on various things. He has actually stated that he&#039;s courting more votes. I think its not his words but his actions we should watch because he speaks out of both sides of his mouth - depending on who he is speaking to.

Julie - no President has the power to make those sorts of decisions on his own. To have an impact on abortion law and other similar types of legislation you would need to look at what type of judges the President would nominate to the Supreme Court.

The issue of judges is enough reason to do everything within reason to keep Obama out of the White House. More liberal judges on the Supreme Court would be a problem for many years to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve noticed that Obama has been doing a lot of &#8216;refining&#8217; his positions on various things. He has actually stated that he&#8217;s courting more votes. I think its not his words but his actions we should watch because he speaks out of both sides of his mouth &#8211; depending on who he is speaking to.</p>
<p>Julie &#8211; no President has the power to make those sorts of decisions on his own. To have an impact on abortion law and other similar types of legislation you would need to look at what type of judges the President would nominate to the Supreme Court.</p>
<p>The issue of judges is enough reason to do everything within reason to keep Obama out of the White House. More liberal judges on the Supreme Court would be a problem for many years to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 07:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Christian, I emotionally do not believe in abortion, but intellectually, I remember the things that happen before abortion was legal.  Rove v. Wade was decided &lt;b&gt;35 years ago.&lt;/b&gt; A large number of people do not remember when abortion was illegal.  Women without the money to pay doctors that would perform safe abortions received back-alley abortions.  Women also used coat hangers and other sharp items to induce abortions. 

&lt;b&gt;Republicans Never Delivered Promised Abortion Law Change&lt;/b&gt;   

Why does anyone think John McCain will make any changes in the abortion law? 

As California&#039;s governor, &lt;b&gt;Ronald Reagan&lt;/b&gt; signed permissive abortion legislation that leads to many abortions. As a presidential candidate, he pledged to seek an anti-abortion constitutional amendment, but never fought hard for one. &lt;/b&gt;

&lt;b&gt;George W. Bush flip-flopped&lt;/b&gt; from his earlier stance on abortion when he ran for President.  Bush has had 7.5 yrs and a Republican controlled Congress until 2006 - Bush did not achieve a constitutional amendment to outlaw abortion.  

There is a good article written by a doctor that treated the results of bad abortions:  Repairing the Damage, Before Roe By Waldo L. Fielding, M.D. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/03/health/views/03essa.html?_r=1&amp;scp=3&amp;sq=%22roe%20v.%20wade%22&amp;st=cse&amp;oref=slogin   

However, not simply &lt;b&gt;coat hangers &lt;/b&gt;were used. 

Almost any implement you can imagine had been and was used to start an abortion — &lt;b&gt;darning needles, crochet hooks, cut-glass salt shakers, soda bottles, sometimes intact, sometimes with the top broken off. &lt;/b&gt; 

Another method that I did not encounter, but heard about from colleagues in other hospitals, was a &lt;b&gt;soap solution &lt;/b&gt;forced through the cervical canal with a syringe. This could cause almost &lt;b&gt;immediate death&lt;/b&gt; if a bubble in the solution entered a blood vessel and was transported to the heart.  

The worst case I saw, and one I hope no one else will ever have to face, was that of a nurse who was admitted with what looked like a partly delivered umbilical cord. Yet as soon as we examined her, we realized that what we thought was the cord was in fact &lt;b&gt;part of her intestine, &lt;/b&gt;which had been hooked and torn by whatever implement had been used in the abortion. It took&lt;b&gt; six hours of surgery&lt;/b&gt; to remove the infected uterus and ovaries and repair the part of the bowel that was still functional.  

It is important to remember that Roe v. Wade did not mean that abortions could be performed. They &lt;b&gt;have always been done, dating from ancient Greek days. &lt;/b&gt;  

What Roe said was that ending a pregnancy could be carried out by medical personnel, in a medically accepted setting, thus conferring on women, finally, the &lt;b&gt;full rights of first-class citizens&lt;/b&gt; — and freeing their doctors to treat them as such.  

It is way past time to &lt;b&gt;stop&lt;/b&gt; making abortion a &lt;b&gt;one-issue&lt;/b&gt; decision for choosing a President.  It is time to focus on the &lt;b&gt;economy, Iraq war, gas prices, health care&lt;/b&gt;—the things that matter to everyone, except the &lt;b&gt;wealthy that want a President that will make them richer. &lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Christian, I emotionally do not believe in abortion, but intellectually, I remember the things that happen before abortion was legal.  Rove v. Wade was decided <b>35 years ago.</b> A large number of people do not remember when abortion was illegal.  Women without the money to pay doctors that would perform safe abortions received back-alley abortions.  Women also used coat hangers and other sharp items to induce abortions. </p>
<p><b>Republicans Never Delivered Promised Abortion Law Change</b>   </p>
<p>Why does anyone think John McCain will make any changes in the abortion law? </p>
<p>As California&#8217;s governor, <b>Ronald Reagan</b> signed permissive abortion legislation that leads to many abortions. As a presidential candidate, he pledged to seek an anti-abortion constitutional amendment, but never fought hard for one. </p>
<p><b>George W. Bush flip-flopped</b> from his earlier stance on abortion when he ran for President.  Bush has had 7.5 yrs and a Republican controlled Congress until 2006 &#8211; Bush did not achieve a constitutional amendment to outlaw abortion.  </p>
<p>There is a good article written by a doctor that treated the results of bad abortions:  Repairing the Damage, Before Roe By Waldo L. Fielding, M.D. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/03/health/views/03essa.html?_r=1&amp;scp=3&amp;sq=%22roe%20v.%20wade%22&amp;st=cse&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/03/health/views/03essa.html?_r=1&amp;scp=3&amp;sq=%22roe%20v.%20wade%22&amp;st=cse&amp;oref=slogin</a>   </p>
<p>However, not simply <b>coat hangers </b>were used. </p>
<p>Almost any implement you can imagine had been and was used to start an abortion — <b>darning needles, crochet hooks, cut-glass salt shakers, soda bottles, sometimes intact, sometimes with the top broken off. </b> </p>
<p>Another method that I did not encounter, but heard about from colleagues in other hospitals, was a <b>soap solution </b>forced through the cervical canal with a syringe. This could cause almost <b>immediate death</b> if a bubble in the solution entered a blood vessel and was transported to the heart.  </p>
<p>The worst case I saw, and one I hope no one else will ever have to face, was that of a nurse who was admitted with what looked like a partly delivered umbilical cord. Yet as soon as we examined her, we realized that what we thought was the cord was in fact <b>part of her intestine, </b>which had been hooked and torn by whatever implement had been used in the abortion. It took<b> six hours of surgery</b> to remove the infected uterus and ovaries and repair the part of the bowel that was still functional.  </p>
<p>It is important to remember that Roe v. Wade did not mean that abortions could be performed. They <b>have always been done, dating from ancient Greek days. </b>  </p>
<p>What Roe said was that ending a pregnancy could be carried out by medical personnel, in a medically accepted setting, thus conferring on women, finally, the <b>full rights of first-class citizens</b> — and freeing their doctors to treat them as such.  </p>
<p>It is way past time to <b>stop</b> making abortion a <b>one-issue</b> decision for choosing a President.  It is time to focus on the <b>economy, Iraq war, gas prices, health care</b>—the things that matter to everyone, except the <b>wealthy that want a President that will make them richer. </b></p>
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